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[Adridos]

Also, for those stealth - F117 supporters, there are two facts you forgot about.

This mech was designed by a Chinese-Russian state, it should differ from yours dramatically. And also, the modern SCI-FI takes other ways of stealth as the functioning version. This is a proper modern stealth SCI-FI vessel:




What does its shapes remind you of? Yeah, Raven.

And this are your sharp shapes you think are stealthy:


Yep, you fail. The shapes of Raptor are usefull only for airplanes, real fighting equipment (like mechs), DOES NOT make use of them!

[zzzuk]

Aelos03, on 26 April 2012 - 12:39 PM, said:

heheh but i think raven should look like raven not Comanche helicopter

It was not meant like that. I wanted to say that the "realistic" style of new Mech designs fits greatly into the Battletech universe, that is known for it´s "realism" without any alien races or teleporters etc. For me the new designs raise the willing suspension of disbelief for MWO - and that is definitely a great achievement.

[sssoniccc]

All of the new Battlemech designs have been a winner in my book, including the Raven.

[MaddMaxx]

It might be interesting to Hear FD's thoughts on the straightening of the beak though? If for no other reason, it is much easier to manufacture/mass produce and then armor things without multiple curved surfaces...

P.S. The Abrams travels in large groups and they make so much bloody noise that stealth is not really an option...

Edited by MaddMaxx, 27 April 2012 - 10:35 AM.

[Burning Chrome]

SeDevri, on 26 April 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Well i'm not really sure what your complaint here is about? you do realize that many of the Raven's were capture by the FedSuns during the 4th Succession War, and that because of this the FedSuns were able to get the mech into actual production faster than the Capellans so having FedCom colors makes perfect sense to me. Don't bash unless you know what your talking about please.

Allow me to clarify a few things for you.

Wow, in nearly 30-years of playing Battletech, I never realized the Raven could possibly end up outside the CCAF. Thanks!

Since the above statement may also be fuzzy to you, and I'm aware that text does not always properly convey intent or emotion, the above statement hints towards sarcasm.

IMO, as it is an original in-House Capellan design, the Raven probably would have been better served by being in CCAF colors.

The rounded "nose", again IMO, detracts from the otherwise excellent design. A slight "beak-ish" look would have honored the origins of the Raven designs and probably caused less uproar. (Could it be the latest MWO troll to-date? Who knows?)

And, since you know NOTHING of my Battletech knowledge, then perhaps you should take your own advice and "Don't bash unless you know what you are talking about please".

[Fetladral]

Adridos, on 27 April 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Also, for those stealth - F117 supporters, there are two facts you forgot about.

This mech was designed by a Chinese-Russian state, it should differ from yours dramatically. And also, the modern SCI-FI takes other ways of stealth as the functioning version. This is a proper modern stealth SCI-FI vessel:




What does its shapes remind you of? Yeah, Raven.

And this are your sharp shapes you think are stealthy:


Yep, you fail. The shapes of Raptor are usefull only for airplanes, real fighting equipment (like mechs), DOES NOT make use of them!

The only mechs that should use aerodynamics are lights (maybe some mediums) so that they can hit the 130 kph or whatever. heavies and assaults wouldnt matter if they had aerodynamics simply because of mass.

[Solis Obscuri]

Burning Chrome, on 27 April 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

The rounded "nose", again IMO, detracts from the otherwise excellent design. A slight "beak-ish" look would have honored the origins of the Raven designs and probably caused less uproar. (Could it be the latest MWO troll to-date? Who knows?)

Well, here's the "origins of the Raven designs"...

I think FD's design would have to be a lot more rounded and less hooked to get close to that...

[Jeremiah Mint]

Adridos, on 27 April 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Also, for those stealth - F117 supporters, there are two facts you forgot about.

This mech was designed by a Chinese-Russian state, it should differ from yours dramatically. And also, the modern SCI-FI takes other ways of stealth as the functioning version. This is a proper modern stealth SCI-FI vessel:




What does its shapes remind you of? Yeah, Raven.

And this are your sharp shapes you think are stealthy:


Yep, you fail. The shapes of Raptor are usefull only for airplanes, real fighting equipment (like mechs), DOES NOT make use of them!

Lol really? Methinks it is you who fails sir.

[Tritarian]

"Nevermore"

Doth quoth the raven

[Ramrod AI]

To be honest I'm not digging most of the revamped designs. Everything seems too squatty. I wish they would stick with the more traditional look of the mechs (referring to the Battletech Readout: 3050).

[EDMW CSN]

Doesn't matter to me. But I am glad the Cappies got their Iconic e-war mech

[Adridos]

Jeremiah Mint, on 27 April 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

Lol really? Methinks it is you who fails sir.

We both know really well what did I mean by saying that.

[pursang]

Where's the "sort of" option? =\

[Cifu]

Honestly: No.

I like the new Atlas, the new Hunchback, the new Awesome... but the Raven (and the Catapult) simply won't reach my heart. :S

It's have nothing about the sleek profile of the old Raven.

[Youngblood]

I'm a Capellan Citizen and MechWarrior and generally a person with good taste, and I endorse this 'Mech's newly designed beak. It reminds me of the "droop nose" on the Concorde airliner, combined with a world-spanning long-range strategic jet bomber's cockpit viewports.

[Dataman]

look less like a bird... more like a canine

but if this thing could do the justice as the classic raven everybody loves, I have no objection

[Thorn Hallis]

SeDevri, on 26 April 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Well i'm not really sure what your complaint here is about? you do realize that many of the Raven's were capture by the FedSuns during the 4th Succession War, and that because of this the FedSuns were able to get the mech into actual production faster than the Capellans so having FedCom colors makes perfect sense to me. Don't bash unless you know what your talking about please.

You do realize that the FedSuns never built the Raven, even though they had aquired the blueprints? So yeah....know what you talking about and such...

[Aelos03]

zzzuk, on 27 April 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

It was not meant like that. I wanted to say that the "realistic" style of new Mech designs fits greatly into the Battletech universe, that is known for it´s "realism" without any alien races or teleporters etc. For me the new designs raise the willing suspension of disbelief for MWO - and that is definitely a great achievement.

Old raven model if done with same level of textures and stuff it would look realistic, but what bothers me when i see picture its like i see mech that looks like raven.

[bANANAjOE]

Raven looks great!! More like a real machine than all other mechs, thats what I like!! Sure will be one of my favorites!!

[infinite xaer0]

Burning Chrome, on 27 April 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

The rounded "nose", again IMO, detracts from the otherwise excellent design. A slight "beak-ish" look would have honored the origins of the Raven designs and probably caused less uproar.

lol, uproar? I think at this point, the results of the poll speak for themselves..