pursang, on 04 May 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:
Halfinax, on 04 May 2012 - 10:11 PM, said:
I believe that peer review is a good solution here. Rather than the devs going purely based on what other players say a player did. Basically members of the community can watch a full replay of the battle (including text...maybe voice as well, but since that isn't in at launch it's moot) to see if the offenses actually occured and then report that back via reviewers' poll to the devs on whether or not the offense was real.
I'm sorry, but that sounds like a terrible idea. Not only is it very clunky and non-user-friendly, it allows people to game the system. Want to be a complete ***? No problem! Get a bunch of your friends to review a battle, and bam! You just tarnished the name of that person - likely without them even knowing it.
You realize what Halifex suggested is almost exactly what the Tribunal is in League of Legends, right?
^, you don't just let players decide what games and whose games/reports/whatever they're going to review.
Punishment is not handed down from one review, but from many. It is not based on a single game, but a case built up over several games (I've only done it once, I think it was usually 5 games at least I could [and did] view).
Now, does LoL's tribunal work that well? I've no idea, I don't really keep up with LoL that much. I only did it once because the IP gain really wasn't worth my time. Now, if it had been a payment of RP, then I might bother more often...
I do like the system, though I think people tend to judge a bit too harshly. /shrugs It's also extremely hard to judge "Feeders" based solely on text. Heck, even game play it can be hard to tell a skillful feeder-troll from someone who's just bad at the game (and there's nothing in the rules that says bad players should be banned...). Similarly, it could be hard (read: impossible) to judge suicide-trolls, or TKers from anything but a replay.
Honestly, though, if they use the WoTs scheme to deal with FF/TK (and most people want more XP/Cash than they get for just running in and dying...), then really all you need is a mute button. If you **** off someone badly enough that they feel compelled to get on *multiple accounts* and talk-smack to you, I strongly suspect the blame lies equally on both parties.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but I'll never let words hurt me. The choice is mine
to grant them that power, and I refuse
Edited by William Petersen, 09 May 2012 - 02:15 AM.