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[Jack Corban]

Hi Folks,

I got 1400€ at hand for the 1st of June.

I need a 24" LCD Screen + a new PC

Help me build it.

What would you fit if you were me? And why ?

My ideas were along the lines of

i5 1155 Socket (not sure which though)
GeForce 560 Ti (same problem as above not sure which)
2x4GB RAM (Corsair Vengeance comes to mind but not sure either)
Asus P8Z77 V or V-Pro (Help me out here)

Additionally what PSU would you recommend for such a system.
I know there are Corsair PSU's with Cable Manegment wich sounds awesome but which to choose?

Best regards,

Jack Corban

[Zakatak]

I suggest you move this to the Hardware Section. What is your budget? Catamount found me a good 1000$ setup, which I made a few changes to.

i5-2500k
ZOTAC 560 Ti 448
2x Ripjaw G.SKILL 4Gb
Corsair GS600
Western Digital 500Gb 7200RPM

The latter 2 go in combo for 30$ off. Just get a spacious but cheap tower, and you could probably do the rest yourself.

[Jack Corban]

1400€ at max while i need to buy both the PC and the Screen for that

[SNOWHOUND]

1400 is more than enough. for alot of tech.
Im from the UK so ill price in pounds but i assume the exchange rate is about 1.4 euros to the pound (corret me if im wrong)

You could get a 3rd gen i5 3570K (ivy bridge) - this is the unlocked version and allows overclocking should you want it @ ~£170

Pair this with some sort of aftermarket cooler either something like a Corsair H60/H80 or a Thermaltake Frio @ £60/£70 and £40 respectively

ASUS P8H77 Pro MoBo - I have an asus p8p67 and the bios features are amazing. soo easy to use overclocking features and if you dont know how to OC theres even an auto OC @ ~ £115

A 560Ti come in numerous forms:

Its normal one

Factory OCd

And the 448 core (from where i shop from i now find are becoming more scarce)

If its a 560Ti you really want id go with a 448 core by EVGA
If not something like a sapphire 7870 2GB wouldnt go wrong. These are both around the £250-ish mark

RAM - Corsair Vengance 8GB for no more than £50

Case - Is yours to chose. If it were me id go with a corsair carbide 500R @ £80

PSU - OCZ 650W ZS SERIES @ £60

1TB HDD @ ~£80

£~880 so far (im taking rough estimates and im not adding up the specified prices) ..

leaving afair sum to spend on a monitor.

A mid range half decent one will set you back about £150-200

Edited by SNOWHOUND, 09 May 2012 - 04:34 AM.

[Morashtak]

Getting moved to Hardware/accessories/peripherals in

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[Xaks]

I'm not sure what a sideways quake thingey is in real money.

But, I not long ago re-did my machine for $1100.\

i7 Sandy Bridge 2700k (unlocked) was $300.
Asus MB for it was around $225.
GTX 560 OC was $275.
Rosewill Thor V2 case $100
RAM was like $80.
I used an 800W Antec PSU for a little over $100.

The rest I had lying around.

Runs Skyrim on ultra-high everything maxed with HD textures and I've never seen so much as a stutter. Also did Star Wars this spring at over 100FPS average.

[Sephyr]

Hey Jack,
most of the PC-hardware stores hawe a configuration option for hardware on thair websites...at least over here in Germany.


This is a example for a configuration within Your budget (Without Kboard/Mouse/operating system).

Cpu: INTEL Core i7 2600 4x3.4GHz boxed 268,99 €
Mainboard: MSI Z68A-GD80 - Z68 DDR3 187,71 €
Ram: 8GB CORSAIR CL9 Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 KIT 55,99 €
Graphics: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 FleX HD, 1GB GDDR5 162,44 €
HD (SSD) : 2.5" OCZ 120GB Agility 3 Solid State Disk 109,99 €
CD (rewritable) : Sony Optiarc AD-5280S SATA, schwarz, bulk20,99 €
CPU cooling: Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B (SCBSK-2100)35,99 €
Tower (midi) : COOLERMASTER Elite 370 Midi Tower schwarz o.NT.43,99 €
Power: 750W Combat CP/FP-750 14cm53,99 €


Total : 940,08 €

That´s a example of a system, guess there are various configurations.
Ah...by the way...i´m not selling Pc´s :-), just a try for some help.

That are prices of a store i just ordered my new system.

Edited by GrayNoton, 08 May 2012 - 04:10 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

GrayNoton, on 08 May 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

Hey Jack,
most of the PC-hardware stores hawe a configuration option for hardware on thair websites...at least over here in Germany.


This is a example for a configuration within Your budget (Without Kboard/Mouse/operating system).

Cpu: INTEL Core i7 2600 4x3.4GHz boxed 268,99 €
Mainboard: MSI Z68A-GD80 - Z68 DDR3 187,71 €
Ram: 8GB CORSAIR CL9 Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 KIT 55,99 €
Graphics: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 FleX HD, 1GB GDDR5 162,44 €
HD (SSD) : 2.5" OCZ 120GB Agility 3 Solid State Disk 109,99 €
CD (rewritable) : Sony Optiarc AD-5280S SATA, schwarz, bulk20,99 €
CPU cooling: Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B (SCBSK-2100)35,99 €
Tower (midi) : COOLERMASTER Elite 370 Midi Tower schwarz o.NT.43,99 €
Power: 750W Combat CP/FP-750 14cm53,99 €


Total : 940,08 €

That´s a example of a system, guess there are various configurations.
Ah...by the way...i´m not selling Pc´s :-), just a try for some help.

That are prices of a store i just ordered my new system.

yeah... this is outdated and not very great for gaming.
CPU: AMD FX 8120 or Intel i5-2500k (depends on if you're a heavy multitasker or just going to game on the PC.)
GPU: Radeon HD 7970 at the high end, otherwise with your budget get a Radeon HD 7870. I recommend HIS, XFX, or MSI.
Motherboard: Asrock or Asus. (990fx chipset with AMD, Z77 with Intel.)
Case: NZXT, Corsair, or Inwin - they have good cooling, solid cases, and most importantly cable management.
Heatsink: If not seriously overclocking, then a Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is your best bet.
HDD: I recommend a WD RE4 as a storage drive, with either an Intel 520 or Samsung 830 SSD as your boot drive for your OS.
RAM: I recommend low profile ram from Patriot, AMD, Corsair, or Gskill.
Optical drive: whatever.
PSU: DO NOT SKIMP ON THIS AND GET A CHEAP ONE. Get one with internals made by Seasonic, Superflower, or Topower, at least 650w for some overhead. (examples of manufacturers which use them; XFX uses Seasonic, Rosewill and Kingwin use superflower, OCZ uses Topower.)

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 08 May 2012 - 04:28 PM.

[DegeneratePervert]

i5 Quad-Core will run pretty much anything wonderfully.
The GTX560ti 448 Core is solid.
Go for 8GB of RAM since the stuff is so cheap at the moment. 4GB can get used up by some games, and the textures in this game might be huge.

[Xaks]

Try this:

http://www.ebuyer.co...-bx80623i72600k
CPU (also available as a bundle on same page with MB or RAM)...305 for RAM bundle

http://www.ebuyer.co...-atx-p8z77-v-lx
MB ... 93

http://www.ebuyer.co...x564010da-1101f
GPU with SSD bundle ...268

http://www.ebuyer.co...u-ocz-zx850w-un
Nice PSU for 110.

http://rosewill.com/...il_Overview.htm
Choose a nice case...about 100

Thats really all you need. You should have the rest already (mouse, keyboard, optical drive, etc)

[VPrime]

All these guys are recommending the i7 or i5, and they are great, but I went the AMD route and spent 300$ less. I went with an asus mboard, didn't spend more then 100$ on it, and it had xfire for multiple vid card support. my chip is a quad, but you can get the 6 core am3+ right now for the same I spent, 150$. I put corsair vengence ram in it, and its great, but the ram cooler prevents me from using my first 2 ram slots, because i put a cooler master 212 heat sink (2 x 120mm fans, 35$) and it limits my ram slots with tall ram, if i did it over i would get the AMD ram, same latency but lower profile. again i did it almost a year ago, so my 8 gigs for 100$ will get you 16 gigs now. my ati 6870 is 170$, and bang for buck any builder will tell you its the better buy when put next to the 560. I got the sapphire radeon, if you are curious. my psu is a cooler master 850 (130$) in case i want to crossfire cards. western digital hd for 50$ was bought before the floods cranked up hd prices (reg, i couldnt afford an ssd, but you should get one if you can) and a thermaltake case for 50$ rounds it out. i spent another 50$ on fans of a particular color and case dressing lights, but none of it is really necessary stuff.

all in all I spent 835$ Canadian, so if you are in the USA you can safely knock off 200$ for the price differences.

My system has run since august 2011, at 36 degrees gaming temp, running Skyrim at high graphics setting with no halts or hesitations.

P.S. I built a friends system for him a month later, with very similar parts (different ram) and came up with the same results, so its proved to be a solid build in my neighborhood

[Catamount]

OP, there is absolutely no reason to get anything lower than a Radeon HD 7870, which is considerably faster than the 560s being tossed around as recommendations (and a bit more expensive, but still a tiny item on such a large budget).

I'll come up with a full system later, but generally speaking, I wouldn't shoot for spending much less then 300 pounds on the GPU for a 1400 pound system. Even a single 7870 might not be as high end as you really want to go.

[Helmer]

Moved to off topic> Hardware,Accessories , Peripherals .


If I was a smart man, I could help out.

But I'm not.

Luckily there are many nice forum members who are.



Cheers.

[Shepard]

Vulpesveritas, on 08 May 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

PSU: DO NOT SKIMP ON THIS AND GET A CHEAP ONE. Get one with internals made by Seasonic, Superflower, or Topower, at least 650w for some overhead. (examples of manufacturers which use them; XFX uses Seasonic, Rosewill and Kingwin use superflower, OCZ uses Topower.)

Don't forget FSP, if it's available for cheap there.

[DV McKenna]

1400 Euros = £1126 = $1818.

The site im using is priced in pounds, and typically some parts are more expensive than you will be able to source from sites where you live.
But it will let me link you the basket .

Intel

http://www.scan.co.u...69b2329dd6cc3ff

AMD

http://www.scan.co.u...278ac68d22b3267

Edited by DV^McKenna, 09 May 2012 - 12:11 AM.

[Catamount]

I think DV^MvKenna pretty much nailed the builds there, although there's still room for a beefier video card on either IF the prices work out similarly where you live

You could replace the AMD build's video card with either of these and stay in budget:

http://www.scan.co.u...isplay-port-vga

http://www.scan.co.u...-i-hdmi-mini-dp

and you could at least fit the 7970 into the Intel build


At the very least I wouldn't go lower then the 7870 (GTX560 isn't high end enough for the budget; a 170 pound video card shouldn't be in a 1200 pound build), but at the same time, McKenna's smart to leave some headroom in both builds.

[DV McKenna]

So it seems i was half asleep this morning, the AMD build is missing a HDD....whoops!
I also took a look at your facebook and at a rough guess your living in germany which means you will at least have access to Amazon which are not too bad price wise.

The total for the AMD build above (this time including a 1TB 7200RPM Western Digital HDD) came in at 1426.26 Euros.
Ever so slightly over budget, but there are cheaper SSD available, as well as cheaper cases so nothing that cant be fixed without giving away any performance.

Edited by DV^McKenna, 09 May 2012 - 04:06 AM.

[Mason Grimm]

Speaking as a guy who just built a system last week for MWO the EVGA 560ti 440 is a damn solid card!!!!! Going from my GeForce 210 to the GeForce 560ti has been like driving 100kph to 1000kph.

[Aniquilator6]

A suggestion built on TigerDirect:


Corsair Carbide Series 300R - 69.99$
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W 80+ Bronze - 89.99$
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H - 149.99$
Intel Core i5-3570K - 249.99$
Patriot G2 Series 8GB (2x 4GB) - 47.99$
MSI R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7870 Video Card - 2048MB, GDDR5 Dual-Slot- 349.99$
SanDisk SDSSDX-120G-G25 120GB Extreme Solid State Drive - 120GB, SATA 6 Gb/s - 144.99$
Western Digital 500GB Caviar Blue SATA Hard Drive - 74.99$
LG 24X SATA DVDRW Drive - 17.99$

Total(TigerDirect) - 1195.91$

Edited by Aniquilator6, 09 May 2012 - 05:34 AM.

[Jack Corban]

Hey guys thank you for all the feedback.

I've actually spend about 6 hours by now looking through diverse PC building sites and came up with a system.

I'm not yet 100% sure if its what i'm going for at the end so i would appreciate some feedback on my Idea of a System.

One thing though. Some of you recommended "Radeon Cards" i have always prefered Nvidia Cards to be honest. Simply because they are better supported on a range of Games aswell as their Drivers get more love in the same time period compared to Radeon Cards. So what i'm saying is basicly that i will stick to a Geforce if possible.

Without further adue i present my System (System might be subject to changes based on Feedback at any time)

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
MB: Asus P8Z77-V PRO Intel Z77 So.1155 Dual
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3-1600
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K 4x 3.40GHz So.1155 BOX
COOLING: To be decided yet
GPU: 1280MB Gainward GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448
HDD: 2000GB Western Digital Caviar Black
CD/DVD: Samsung DVD-Rom SH-D163C/BEBE SATA
PSU: 650W Corsair HX650 Modular 80+
CASE: Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower ohne
LCD: 24" (60,96cm) LG Electronics Flatron

Pricepoint: is 1.250,13 € at this moment (changes on daily basis)

The problem i'm facing at the moment is that the Corsair RAM restricts me in finding a new CPU Cooling System. So if you have any recommendations please let me know. I'm not planing on OC'ing any of my components so it does not necessary have to be a OC Cooler but iut has to work in conjunction with my RAM.

Best regards,

Jack Corban

Edited by Jack Corban, 09 May 2012 - 05:54 AM.