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Stalker: Do We Need Another Missle Boat?


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#1 William Conrad

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:08 AM

December is around and I was giddy up for the Highlander.. something exciting and then BAM! A Stalker... STALKER!

We already got the Catapult making its name as a missle boat, and then the Trenchbucket soon.. and then this???

We got Medium, heavy and now Assault Missle Boat? And with ECM running rampant in team games.. it is crazy to get this mech.

I am sorely..well.. I was hoping for a Highlander.. there is already too many missle boat out there to ruin a fun team match.

At least an Assault mech which can mount two balistic points in both Torso and one in the arms.

A Davastator or Mauler would be fun, even an Annihilator or new Atlas variant.. which meet the criteria above.

And please give us what we want... otherwise there will be moaning about the fun being less balance and etc.

Stalker.. pity it is not a Banshee.. <sigh>

#2 Booran

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:11 AM

Why wouldn't be a stalker? It looks nice, assaults need to flesh out their roster, and this will fill a small gap between brawling with an atlas and sniping with an awesome.

#3 William Conrad

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:15 AM

Just you try piloting this mech when you got ECM mechs on the other team.. you are dead... if the enemy mech reaches you if you are not swamp by the heat already.

#4 Wizard Steve

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:15 AM

If you didn't want another LRM boat, the time to mention it would have been 6 months ago when the Stalker was announced as the mech we'd get after the Cataphract.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:17 AM

You're missing the point. The Stalker isn't a "missile boat", it's an ugly-as-sin, hard-hitting, tough-as-nails, death-delivering weapons platform. It has at least four energy hardpoints and four missile hardpoints on every variant.

#6 William Conrad

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:17 AM

Well that changes nothing.. even if i had made a noise about it and back then the Beta is not yet out.. only when you play the game you discover the good, the bad and the ugly.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:17 AM

Sir The Stalker is not a Missile Boat. Its a Laser AND Missile boat. 4 Missile and 6 laser hard points minimum!

#8 William Conrad

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:19 AM

How different is that to a Catapult..to one of the missle boat varient? By the differences of a few more lasers? Come on.. a Catapult can do the same job if you mount an XL engine!

We need more mech with balistic mounts. Like the Annihilator, there was a Clan varient which mount five Gauss rifles on it.

Edited by William Conrad, 14 December 2012 - 04:22 AM.


#9 deadeye mcduck

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:21 AM

Theres plenty of "missile boats" in the TT lore:

http://www.sarna.net...oat_BattleMechs

So get used to having missile support mechs in the game.

View PostWilliam Conrad, on 14 December 2012 - 04:19 AM, said:

How different is that to a Catapult..to one of the missle boat varient? By the differences of a few more lasers?


For one, Stalker is an Assault mech with more armour than the catapult. I'm going to equip mine with SRM 6's and Large lasers and get stuck in with the main assault.

Edited by deadeye mcduck, 14 December 2012 - 04:21 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:23 AM

View PostWilliam Conrad, on 14 December 2012 - 04:19 AM, said:

How different is that to a Catapult..to one of the missle boat varient? By the differences of a few more lasers?

The difference is that the Stalker has the weight to carry Large Lasers with its LRM-20s.

It's going to hit you with 136 points of LRMs at range if you're out of ECM, and with 36 points of laser damage if you're in ECM.

Alternatively, it's going to mash you with 90 points of SRM damage.

It's a Cat-and-a-half, and it's going to be nasty.

Edited by stjobe, 14 December 2012 - 04:26 AM.


#11 Thorn Hallis

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:25 AM

Well, we had no dedicated assault 'Mech with lots (more then 3) of missle hardpoints, so it was about time.

#12 deadeye mcduck

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:26 AM

Im hoping we get the Longbow in game.

#13 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:27 AM

View Poststjobe, on 14 December 2012 - 04:23 AM, said:

It's a Cat-and-a-half, and it's going to be nasty.

Like green Eggs and Ham?
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And-a-half! :)
never mind :wub:

#14 KarrRadane

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:27 AM

And please give us what we want... otherwise there will be moaning about the fun being less balance and etc.

Stalker.. pity it is not a Banshee.. <sigh>...Well William Conrad, as a fan of missile mech this is what I want :) added with the lasers, super fun will be had by me.

#15 deadeye mcduck

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:28 AM

Seems many are actually looking forward to the Stalker, regardless of OP's thoughts.

#16 William Conrad

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:28 AM

Don't forget the heat it generates.. a mech can only mount so many heat sinks.. like perhaps 15 to 16 double at most.. in the hell hole map.. you will be dead from heat explosions if the enemy don't kill you when you are shut down from over heating. The 5s varient is a oven from Sarna.net

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:30 AM

View Postdeadeye mcduck, on 14 December 2012 - 04:26 AM, said:

Im hoping we get the Longbow in game.


Same here, it's a classic.

I'd prefer it to be a mix between the TRO3058 and MW4 design.

http://img.masteruni...ow%20LGB-7Q.jpg

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:31 AM

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We got Medium, heavy and now Assault Missle Boat? And with ECM running rampant in team games.. it is crazy to get this mech.


If they make the STK-3Fb for us, then we have another ECM platform to play with.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:32 AM

View PostKarrRadane, on 14 December 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

And please give us what we want... otherwise there will be moaning about the fun being less balance and etc.

Stalker.. pity it is not a Banshee.. <sigh>...Well William Conrad, as a fan of missile mech this is what I want :) added with the lasers, super fun will be had by me.

I'm Lyran and i don't want a Banshee. Banshee's were good brawler mechs. Now gimme a Zeus, THAT is a Lyran Scouting Mech!!!

#20 Nayru

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:32 AM

Yes, we do kind of need a better missile assault than the awesome/D-DC, even if it will replace said awesome.

And unseen, people, longbow will never be in-game.

Edited by Nayru, 14 December 2012 - 04:32 AM.






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