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#21 Kaptain

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:57 PM

I have rebuilt several aging q6700(OCed @ 3.2) and 965BE (OCed @ 3.8) systems
All powered with 4 gigs of salvage ram
Most powered with salvage power supplies
GPU for all 4 builds was a refurb GTX280 from newegg

Frame rates average in the mid 30s on high with post processing at med.

#22 Deathwarrior

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:22 PM

Yes easily doable.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xfXH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....XH/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....fXH/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 760GM-P34(FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($106.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $504.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-12 17:18 EST-0500)

Depending on resolution, that will let you run the game at medium with ease. Not needing an OS will give you an extra $90 to dump into a better GPU. Can save a few bucks and choose a cheaper case, I just happen to like the one selected. Not an Overclocking build as the Motherboard will most likely fry if attempted. Motherboard is AM3+ and supports newer (FX) processors so it allows for an upgrade path in the future.

CPU is old tech, but still gets the job done. I run one with a weaker GPU, 4GB ram and still pull 30ish FPS, which allows for good play-ability.

As has been mentioned. www.pcpartpicker.com is your friend for putting builds together.

Edited by Deathwarrior, 12 January 2013 - 02:27 PM.


#23 Roaxis Stalomainis

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:32 AM

View PostAznpersuasion89, on 11 January 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

oh, on board....would that even play this game? i dont know. just askin


My laptop has an integrated Radeon HD 4200 that shifts to a 5650 with 1GB dedicated memory when proper power is supplied, runs MWO like a charm, about 25-30FPS in most situations. I will admit though, this did run me about $735 with an extended 2 year warranty.

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#24 Flapdrol

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:15 PM

Deathwarrior did a good price/performance pick I think.

If you can re-use a case, dvd and harddrive you'll be well under budget. I guess you could upgrade the cpu to a 3350p if you like high fps on low settings, or upgrade the gpu to a 7850 2GB if you like pretty pictures.

if the harddrive and dvd drive you salvage are pata make sure the motherboard has it too, they're getting pretty rare these days.

a secondhand gpu could be a huge costsaving too, secondhand hd4850's go for $50 where I live. gtx260's should go for $60. On low details this game isn't gpu demanding at all so they should perform fine.

Edited by Flapdrol, 16 January 2013 - 02:20 PM.


#25 Bianca Flowers

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:14 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.18 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI 880GMS-E41 (FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $481.01
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-16 20:13 EST-0500)

#26 Capt Jester

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:21 PM

View PostDV McKenna, on 11 January 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:



This is probably the best you can get for $500. Of course anybody can say another company is best, but this is a good setup for $500. I have my biases; I like Kingston RAM personally, but really, RAM is RAM.

#27 Flapdrol

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 06:59 AM

Those A10-5800K's aren't that bad but a phenom II quad with dedicated gpu will outperform it for only a little more.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:03 AM

what do you need a case for? bolt everything to a piece of plywood hang it on your wall.

Edited by BrewnIx, 17 January 2013 - 09:04 AM.


#29 Sir Roland MXIII

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:51 PM

View PostFlapdrol, on 17 January 2013 - 06:59 AM, said:

Those A10-5800K's aren't that bad but a phenom II quad with dedicated gpu will outperform it for only a little more.


Agreed, although it probably would need to be the "flagship" Phenom II to outperform a Trinity. That plus the GPU would be more than a "little more".

In the end, I really only suggest APUs as a solution for people on extremely tight budgets. Seperate CPU / GPU will always be better but some people might not be able to afford that.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 17 January 2013 - 12:54 PM.


#30 Deathwarrior

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:16 PM

View PostBianca Flowers, on 16 January 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 975 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.18 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI 880GMS-E41 (FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $481.01
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-16 20:13 EST-0500)


The selected motherboard only supports 95W CPUs, the 975 is 125W. It looks like you'll have to addon ~$20-$30 for a good aftermarket CPU cooler as that appears to be an OEM 975.

The A10-5800K build lacks a dedicated GPU. A 7770 will outperform the onboard 7660D of the A10 as has been stated. Another suggestion if you don't mind used components would be to search on Ebay for I5-2400s. They are currently selling in the $120/$130 range. Its an older Sandy Bridge CPU but it will out perform older Phenom/Bulldozer chips by a good margin. Pair it with a cheaper H61 1155 motherboard and a 7770/650TI GPU and you have yourself a very capable PC for playing MWO on a ~$500 budget.

Edited by Deathwarrior, 17 January 2013 - 02:19 PM.


#31 mechnut450

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:14 PM

not done so in a while but i have built many systems with a 500 buck limit. and i got all new parts. if you need contact me and I will give you a list of parts.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

Save your self some time use my favorite PC building website....


www.pcpartpicker.com

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#33 DocBach

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

View PostDeathwarrior, on 12 January 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

Yes easily doable.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xfXH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....XH/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....fXH/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 760GM-P34(FX) Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($106.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $504.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-12 17:18 EST-0500)

Depending on resolution, that will let you run the game at medium with ease. Not needing an OS will give you an extra $90 to dump into a better GPU. Can save a few bucks and choose a cheaper case, I just happen to like the one selected. Not an Overclocking build as the Motherboard will most likely fry if attempted. Motherboard is AM3+ and supports newer (FX) processors so it allows for an upgrade path in the future.

CPU is old tech, but still gets the job done. I run one with a weaker GPU, 4GB ram and still pull 30ish FPS, which allows for good play-ability.

As has been mentioned. www.pcpartpicker.com is your friend for putting builds together.


I used that motherboard with an FX6300 and its running great. Paired it with a 7950 though so I wouldn't exactly call it a budget, budget build.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yGM5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....M5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....GM5/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: MSI TC- (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $480.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 21:16 EST-0500)

#34 Gremlich Johns

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

View PostKaboodle, on 11 January 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

The new AMD Onboard APUs are actually very very good. The higher end ones equivalent to a mid-range standalone card, albeit with less dedicated memory. This is usually fine since it will just use the system RAM, which is EXTREMELY cost efficient right now, since you can load 8gb for less than $50.


Andhe can always Crossfire later

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:10 AM

For 500$ i built a system that plays farcry 3 and skyrim( with alot of visual mods) on max settings @ 1600x1200.
Keep in mind i already had the monitors& tower. Buy i think its possible.


View PostDocBach, on 20 January 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:


I used that motherboard with an FX6300 and its running great. Paired it with a 7950 though so I wouldn't exactly call it a budget, budget build.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yGM5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....M5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....GM5/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: MSI TC- (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $480.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 21:16 EST-0500)

The 7770 will bottleneck the 6300 bad, its best to get a used 6950 of a buy and sale site.





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