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[WolvesX]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...546bc10bae129a5

Any suggestions?

Playstyle:

• 2 LLs, stay on max range and behind cover against hardhiters.
  
• 3 SSRM2 -> Close range support against lights / all
  
• JJs for mobility, cover, houses etc -> Main reason why 7M
  
• TAG for supporting your team.

Getting constant good results with it.

No Brawler! A supporter!

Edited by WolvesX, 25 February 2013 - 11:54 AM.

[Monkey Bone]

Why TAG?

If you're fighting ECM close range, you're not able to lock-on with your missiles.

But if you want to keep on using the streaks, remove the large lasers, and add in ERPPC and 2xmedlasers. Otherwise just switch to srm6.

EDIT; http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ccb9e62ef580411

Edited by Jules Gonzales, 25 February 2013 - 11:55 AM.

[Orzorn]

Remove the TAG and a large laser and heat sink for a PPC/ERPPC. If the heat is too much, drop the other large and replace it with 2 mediums and some sinks.

The reason so is that TAG does not work within ECM range, but a PPC/ERPPC will shut down at least one ECM. If you've more than one Raven on you then you're already in trouble anyways.

[FrDrake]

I ran 2 LL, 2 SSRM in the one that has 2/2/2 hardpoints, it's fine enough.

My build I'm really loving in the M though is:

XL 300
3xMLAS
2xSSRM
1xLRM15

Functional at all ranges and the 180-270m distance is a heavy alpha.

[WolvesX]

I got a 7K with 2 ER PPC and 2 SSRM. Yup works.

[Monkey Bone]

And if you want to call yourself "support", be advised that every LRMboat who benefits from tag will simply bring their own to the playfield. You still have a considerable long-range punch with the ERppc.

[WolvesX]

Jules Gonzales, on 25 February 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

Why TAG?

If you're fighting ECM close range, you're not able to lock-on with your missiles.

But if you want to keep on using the streaks, remove the large lasers, and add in ERPPC and 2xmedlasers. Otherwise just switch to srm6.

EDIT; http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ccb9e62ef580411

This one is interresting!

[Monkey Bone]

WolvesX, on 25 February 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

This one is interresting!

And of course take one of those heatsinks in to the engine, if you desire. Just made up something off your template.

[Utilyan]

Well he said he's doing support so carrying that tag is pretty good with the return of the missle icon.

Could be more "damaging" then a medium laser.

[WolvesX]

Jules Gonzales, on 25 February 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

And of course take one of those heatsinks in to the engine, if you desire. Just made up something off your template.

-1 Ammo for ssrm + one DHS in the engine.

Lets try =)

Utilyan, on 25 February 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

Well he said he's doing support so carrying that tag is pretty good with the return of the missle icon.

Could be more "damaging" then a medium laser.

Yup, but since I don't know the exact value, maybe the med lasers, but I like to TAG things, because people then to shoot on them =)

[Allister Rathe]

I prefer something of a hybrid of your build. I find the Trebuchet to be one of the best skirmishers I've piloted yet due to its slender frame and blazing speed (for a medium). Instead of relying solely on SSRM's (which are so easily nullified without a counter to ECM) I build with a few SRM6's:

XL 305
2 SRM 6
1 SSRM 2
1 Large Laser
2 Medium Lasers

What's great about the build that I've found is that the SRM6's give you nice punch against anything above a light and the trio of lasers gives you staying power late into the game after you've fired off all your missiles. The SSRM2 is a lightweight backup system to give an edge against any light without ECM you run across, or a guaranteed 5 damage on any other target.

I've been running a 7K as well and while initially wary of its lack of hardpoints I've found that a build with an LB-10X, two MPL, and 2 SRM4's with an XL280 has been very effective. I play him as interdiction against lights that try to swoop in on my slow assault buddies and it works very well. Only having two missile bays for all 8 of my SRM's scared me a bit at first but the lack of extra tubes makes them come out in a sort of machine-gun pattern, which is fantastic against larger targets because it concentrates the missiles in a smaller area as opposed to the shotgun pattern of most other launchers.

[Monkey Bone]

Utilyan, on 25 February 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

Well he said he's doing support so carrying that tag is pretty good with the return of the missle icon.

Could be more "damaging" then a medium laser.

Carrying tag also relies that your team actually brings the LRM. If they don't, well there goes 1 ton and a hardpoint wasted.

And a good LRM user will bring his own tag.

[WolvesX]

I think we shouldn't hang on the TAG thing.

If I drop with my clan, I bring my tag and normaly I mount in pubic only matches too, because I think it is supporting.

Also: You can be in a other position than you mates LRM lauchner, so you can TAG a target and your mate can still fire indirect.

[Mechteric]

I would also recommend dropping the TAG, then separate the Large Lasers so its 1 per arm and increase your engine by 1 ton to a 270XL

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 25 February 2013 - 12:16 PM.

[Monkey Bone]

WolvesX, on 25 February 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

I think we shouldn't hang on the TAG thing.

If I drop with my clan, I bring my tag and normaly I mount in pubic only matches too, because I think it is supporting.

Also: You can be in a other position than you mates LRM lauchner, so you can TAG a target and your mate can still fire indirect.

True, but i was thinking about solo dropping.

Offtopic; I would buy my trenchbucket if i had MC left for bays... Maybe grabbing some more when highlander rumbles in to the scene.

[Tickdoff Tank]

My 7M:

ERPPC, 2 ML, 3 SSRM2s. XL 280, 15 DHS, 304 armor (yeah, a little light but I manage)

My 7K:

ERPPC, PPC, 2 SSRM2s. XL300, 14 DHS, 320 armor.

Have also tried 1 ERPPC, 1 LB 10X AC (2 tons ammo) and 2 SSRM2s with a XL260. A little slower, but still fun.

Anyone have a good 5J build? Still struggling to find one that I really like.

[Monkey Bone]

Tickdoff Tank, on 25 February 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

My 7M:

ERPPC, 2 ML, 3 SSRM2s. XL 280, 15 DHS, 304 armor (yeah, a little light but I manage)

My 7K:

ERPPC, PPC, 2 SSRM2s. XL300, 14 DHS, 320 armor.

Have also tried 1 ERPPC, 1 LB 10X AC (2 tons ammo) and 2 SSRM2s with a XL260. A little slower, but still fun.

Anyone have a good 5J build? Still struggling to find one that I really like.

Since the 5J lacks hardpoints for missiles, i would put everything on the Engine;

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...91d51b9e1c00013

Also, if you love LRM;

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a735fb22f10f16a

1Ton spare for either extra DHS or artemis.

EDIT; 3rd build; http://mwo.smurfy-ne...04111a762f693fc

Edited by Jules Gonzales, 25 February 2013 - 12:30 PM.

[WolvesX]

btw. the flamer needs its damage to be nerfed and the heat x8 or more. Would make a great support weapon (stun)

[Monkey Bone]

WolvesX, on 25 February 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

btw. the flamer needs its damage to be nerfed and the heat x8 or more. Would make a great support weapon (stun)

What i think they should do with flamers is, that when you're flaming an enemy mech, it's heat generation from weapons increases by x (say 1.5 or something).

It's not an annoying instant shutdown just like in mw3, or mektek version with inferno missiles, yet still useful (lol ppcboats).

[One Medic Army]

I've fitted my 7M as the following, in an attempt to kill 3Ls:
ERPPC
3x SSRM
XL325
5JJ

Of course, it's still worthless when there's more than 1 enemy ECM light (though I did leg-kill one last time that happened with the ERPPC)