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#1 Chaos7

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:45 AM

Yo!
I just want to recap on what the difference is between playing with 5-15 FPS and 30+ fps.

Last November I started playing MWO on my laptop which is a decent machine and most games do tend to run very smoothly on it with 30+ fps on medium settings. Some specs:
- i5 2nd gen(2 cores) on 2,4 GHz, boosts to 3,2
- GeForce GT 550m with 2Gb of memory
- 8Gb RAM

As we all know even on the lowest possible settings this will give you 5-15 FPS (15 if you are not seeing too many objects, 5-10 most of the time). Now I was playing on this system for 3 months until late January and my KD ration was at ~0.7 maybe less with ~750 games played. Not something to be proud of, not that I am ashamed of it either. Note that I am pugging 80% of the time.

I've decided to build my own PC and here is what I've assembled(non-relevant components are omitted):
- i5 3rd gen(4 cores) on 3.4 GHz
- GeForce GTX 660Ti with 2Gb of memory
- 8Gb RAM

With this configuration the game runs on 1920x1080, highest detail settings with ~50-60 FPS with occasional drops, but never gets below 30 FPS.

The result from this upgrade was that suddenly all my mehcs became much better! I was able to land most of my PPC shots, which I wasn't able to do before. ACs & SRMs became effective on moving targets and overall predicting where a target would go became piece of cake! It was incredibly different feeling, it was like someone took off my shackles. As a result from this my KD ratio started to improve dramatically. Today is exactly one month after I got the system: KD ration got to ~1.3 in ~1100 games from ~0.7 in ~750 games, which is a staggering improvement, considering the amount of games I played!

Thank you for reading this, even if you just read this last line! Just wanted to share my experience and hopefully help someone to improve their performance!

P.S. Excuse my English!

#2 elbloom

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:10 AM

time to throw the C64 away, you say ?
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#3 Chaos7

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:47 AM

View Postelbloom, on 28 February 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

time to throw the C64 away, you say ?


It did made a staggering difference! (btw the pro gaming keyboards are very similar to this one)

Edited by VOHRIMENKO, 28 February 2013 - 02:48 AM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:51 AM

im running it on:
icore5 ivy bridge quad 3,1 Ghz
radeon 7770 1GB
4GB ram

i play on on 1920*1080 on medium details and with the fps around 35-60 never had it below 35 (unless the fps bug ofc) and most of the time fps is on 45-50 the only time it drops below this is in some extreme fights... like 1v8 as last man standing (damn that was terible)
i can play it even on highest setting but the fps drops to 25-40

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:56 AM

wish i could do that

forever cursed with aspire v3-571G laptop :/

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:02 AM

I play MWO on a 5-year-old budget PC.

Pentium Dual-Core E2200 @ 2.2GHz
3GB RAM @ 667MHz
GeForce 8600 GT

Performance is pretty much what you'd expect but, since the latest game optimizations, MWO runs so well on my old rig that I might just wait until Q4 2013 or Q1 2014 to build a new one.
I'm kinda waiting for the GTX 700 series and Haswell.

Anyway, I play with a resolution of 768x480 and still get 23FPS on average, though sometimes it drops down to 18FPS ir even lower when there's a lot of stuff going on in-game.

In my knowledge, this is the worst rig which is (disputably) capable of running MWO.
I used to get 15-30FPS on a laptop.

My current KDR is 1.89 (up from 0.7 in closed beta if memory serves me right) and WLR is 0.57.

I pug and premade about 50/50.

Edited by Lorcan Lladd, 28 February 2013 - 03:09 AM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:38 AM

I haven't tried the latest optimizations with my laptop, but I really hope they make it better for lower end machines.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:10 AM

I have a similar experience, I live overseas and play from Thailand with a ping of 350ms or worse, then go home to the States during the summers and get a ping of 75. Oh it is beautiful, I'm like a god among mere mortals for those few short weeks.

Then back to Thailand...........sigh.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:33 PM

View PostVOHRIMENKO, on 28 February 2013 - 12:45 AM, said:

As we all know even on the lowest possible settings this will give you 5-15 FPS (15 if you are not seeing too many objects, 5-10 most of the time). Now I was playing on this system for 3 months until late January and my KD ration was at ~0.7 maybe less with ~750 games played. Not something to be proud of, not that I am ashamed of it either. Note that I am pugging 80% of the time.


I use a fairly similar setup with a GT 550M (it's quad core i5 and 4GB RAM though) but I get much better FPS. Are you on 1080p? I can't run 1080p so I run on 720p with anti-aliasing off and have the screen stretched to 1366x768 as a kind of poor man's anti-aliasing. I usually run all on low but medium shadows. Also, driver version seems to have some effect. My performance has been:
  • Before the April 2nd patch, on driver version 9.18.13.623 (30/08/2012): 50-55 fps (fine)
  • After the April 2nd patch, on driver version 9.18.13.623 (30/08/2012): 45-50 fps! (okay)
  • After the April 2nd patch, on driver version 9.18.13.1422 (14/03/2013): 20-25 fps!!! (bearable, just)
Needless to say, I've gone back to the 30/08/2012 version of the NVIDIA driver.

#10 NRP

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:03 PM

My gpu is an AMD 5770, and my FPS is the same as before the patch. Perhaps it's an issue with nVidia gpus/drivers? I seem to remember reading something about that in the patch notes.

#11 MrPenguin

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:21 PM

View Postmachtura, on 03 April 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:


I use a fairly similar setup with a GT 550M (it's quad core i5 and 4GB RAM though) but I get much better FPS. Are you on 1080p? I can't run 1080p so I run on 720p with anti-aliasing off and have the screen stretched to 1366x768 as a kind of poor man's anti-aliasing. I usually run all on low but medium shadows. Also, driver version seems to have some effect. My performance has been:
  • Before the April 2nd patch, on driver version 9.18.13.623 (30/08/2012): 50-55 fps (fine)
  • After the April 2nd patch, on driver version 9.18.13.623 (30/08/2012): 45-50 fps! (okay)
  • After the April 2nd patch, on driver version 9.18.13.1422 (14/03/2013): 20-25 fps!!! (bearable, just)
Needless to say, I've gone back to the 30/08/2012 version of the NVIDIA driver.


Did rolling back actually work?

#12 Irvine

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:24 PM

My toaster doesnt run this game too well. Oh well just saving for an decent computer isnt too hard

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:43 PM

View PostIrvine, on 03 April 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

My toaster doesnt run this game too well. Oh well just saving for an decent computer isnt too hard

For real, whats up with these people not having a couple stacks for a proper system

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:33 PM

View PostMrPenguin, on 03 April 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Did rolling back actually work?


It took it back to the mid-level (45-50 FPS) not to the way it was before the MWO patch. I used the Windows "Roll Back Driver" feature, I'm on Windows 7.

As far as I know, I wasn't on the driver that is mentioned in the patch notes either before or after.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:08 AM

Framerate went down since last patch. Clearly.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:18 AM

View PostGalaxyBluestar, on 28 February 2013 - 02:56 AM, said:

wish i could do that

forever cursed with aspire v3-571G laptop :/

Meme or it didn't happen ;-)

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:24 AM

Yes they need to undo whatever they did with the graphics cause this is an unfun experience now. The patch before this one really boosted my fps now this patch just killed it. O and not everyone has a couple stacks for a new graphics card. Not everyone still lives with their parents and can just spend money on whatever they want.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:25 AM

View PostVOHRIMENKO, on 28 February 2013 - 12:45 AM, said:

Yo!
I just want to recap on what the difference is between playing with 5-15 FPS and 30+ fps.

Last November I started playing MWO on my laptop which is a decent machine and most games do tend to run very smoothly on it with 30+ fps on medium settings. Some specs:
- i5 2nd gen(2 cores) on 2,4 GHz, boosts to 3,2
- GeForce GT 550m with 2Gb of memory
- 8Gb RAM

As we all know even on the lowest possible settings this will give you 5-15 FPS (15 if you are not seeing too many objects, 5-10 most of the time). Now I was playing on this system for 3 months until late January and my KD ration was at ~0.7 maybe less with ~750 games played. Not something to be proud of, not that I am ashamed of it either. Note that I am pugging 80% of the time.

I've decided to build my own PC and here is what I've assembled(non-relevant components are omitted):
- i5 3rd gen(4 cores) on 3.4 GHz
- GeForce GTX 660Ti with 2Gb of memory
- 8Gb RAM

With this configuration the game runs on 1920x1080, highest detail settings with ~50-60 FPS with occasional drops, but never gets below 30 FPS.

The result from this upgrade was that suddenly all my mehcs became much better! I was able to land most of my PPC shots, which I wasn't able to do before. ACs & SRMs became effective on moving targets and overall predicting where a target would go became piece of cake! It was incredibly different feeling, it was like someone took off my shackles. As a result from this my KD ratio started to improve dramatically. Today is exactly one month after I got the system: KD ration got to ~1.3 in ~1100 games from ~0.7 in ~750 games, which is a staggering improvement, considering the amount of games I played!

Thank you for reading this, even if you just read this last line! Just wanted to share my experience and hopefully help someone to improve their performance!

P.S. Excuse my English!



TL;DR = Pay to Win :)

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:36 AM

Just see my signature that you can see my machine, I use everything high, only disabled Motion Bluer and Post Processing. I have no big problems (FPS: 40 ~ 60, sometimes 30 and rarely 20), only loading problems (before patch it was 10 or 20 seconds to load the match, now it's 1~3 minutes to load it, luckily 40~55 seconds and rarely 30 seconds now) and internet problems (strange thing, sometimes the normal ~150ms and other ~300ms, and since this patch sometimes +750ms). Well, just wish to things get better and expect the worse.

Edited by Ryon Kerensky, 04 April 2013 - 08:38 AM.


#20 Chaos7

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:38 PM

View Postmachtura, on 03 April 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:


I use a fairly similar setup with a GT 550M (it's quad core i5 and 4GB RAM though) but I get much better FPS. Are you on 1080p? I can't run 1080p so I run on 720p with anti-aliasing off and have the screen stretched to 1366x768 as a kind of poor man's anti-aliasing. I usually run all on low but medium shadows. Also, driver version seems to have some effect. My performance has been:
  • Before the April 2nd patch, on driver version 9.18.13.623 (30/08/2012): 50-55 fps (fine)
  • After the April 2nd patch, on driver version 9.18.13.623 (30/08/2012): 45-50 fps! (okay)
  • After the April 2nd patch, on driver version 9.18.13.1422 (14/03/2013): 20-25 fps!!! (bearable, just)
Needless to say, I've gone back to the 30/08/2012 version of the NVIDIA driver.



Haven't tried the laptop in the past 2 months, but the reason you are getting higher FPS is that you have a Quad core processor. Why there is such big difference, well ask PGI...





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