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[Tahribator]

stjobe, on 05 April 2013 - 03:28 AM, said:

Now do the same with a 5K.

Just had this game in a 5K wth an ERLL, 4MG's and 6JJ. It's by no means useless, I go for one specific hardpoint and disable the enemy mech part by part. I had games where I zombied two mechs, it was fun seeing them try to cap around.

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The 5V only has two energy hardpoints (both in CT), and the 5K has one. And four useless ballistic slots.

One energy is enough for Spiders, that usually being a ER Large. It's good at close range and great at long range harassment and distraction. I found that going greedy with ML's or MPL's usually mean dying faster because by equipping them you limit yourself to close range.

[Terror Teddy]

Tahribator, on 05 April 2013 - 07:29 AM, said:

Just had this game in a 5K wth an ERLL, 4MG's and 6JJ. It's by no means useless, I go for one specific hardpoint and disable the enemy mech part by part. I had games where I zombied two mechs, it was fun seeing them try to cap around.

One energy is enough for Spiders, that usually being a ER Large. It's good at close range and great at long range harassment and distraction. I found that going greedy with ML's or MPL's usually mean dying faster because by equipping them you limit yourself to close range.

The problem with your statement is that you essentially have to more or less gimp the build to make SPACE for that ER LL. ANY other light mech with 5 weapon systems can do the job with medium lasers and a few SRM's but the Spider cannot use it's 4 MG's and a medium laser to do the job - or even upgrading to a pulse laser because 4 out of 5 systems are underpowered.

Yes, the ERLL spider WORKS but it's not GOOD - And it's light years from most other mechs damage wise - even a 5 tonne lighter commando do more damage.

[DCLXVI]

Karma Police, on 05 April 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:

dodging 4 AC2s like neo in the matrix

like neo? or a glitching ghosting lagging fu*king game of whack-a-mole those things are

Edited by DCLXVI, 05 April 2013 - 07:59 AM.

[Tahribator]

Terror Teddy, on 05 April 2013 - 07:51 AM, said:

The problem with your statement is that you essentially have to more or less gimp the build to make SPACE for that ER LL. ANY other light mech with 5 weapon systems can do the job with medium lasers and a few SRM's but the Spider cannot use it's 4 MG's and a medium laser to do the job - or even upgrading to a pulse laser because 4 out of 5 systems are underpowered.

Yes, the ERLL spider WORKS but it's not GOOD - And it's light years from most other mechs damage wise - even a 5 tonne lighter commando do more damage.

Spider is not here for doing damage anyway, it's clearly outlined in the hardpoints of variants. It's sole purpose is to distract/annoy/scout. Be a troll overall.

BTW you can fit a LL in all variants without doing many sacrifices. You only need to shave some armor off the arms and they are not useful anyway.

Edited by Tahribator, 05 April 2013 - 08:12 AM.

[Skyfaller]

Karma Police, on 05 April 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:

i have been a heavy/assault pilot since day 1. but recently i have found my true love.
funny, but i think playing assault mechs this whole time has made me an expert light mech pilot.
when i got in that spider the first thing i made sure of, was.. that it had ecm. there are a lot of RVN-3Ls and COM-2Ds using streaks out there and i didnt want to get eaten alive. i knew ecm is OP but i didnt care, i wanted it for protection against streaks.
then i got DHS and Endo steel. i then put inside it the biggest XL engine that fit and stuffed it with 3 pulse ML, 12 m of jetpacks and as many DHSs as i could
its a spider built for the kill. or should i say built for the troll (almost looks like a little troll too).
my first round with this was astonishing, i loved every little bit about it. FAST as hell, small and quick, dodging 4 AC2s like neo in the matrix, with no sweat. it was amazing, i even got 2 kills with it, which one of whom was a brand new pink hero mech. i was singing the music out loud as i had no in game speakers like the Heavy Metal does.
the only way this mech will be hard to play is if they bring back collisions.
until then, i think this little devil should be a lot more popular than it is right now.
i guess people think spiders arent capable mechs, maybe they think they can only scout.
but what i found out is that spiders are very dangerous, in a good match you can get up to about 500 damage and 3 maybe 4 kills with it.
anyone else had this expirience?
or maybe this is all do to the fact that my light class elo score is possibly low?

I use an ER PPC, TAG and med laser plus BAP and 2xsensor on top of the ECM. Its an excellent scout and sniper. Very safe to use as well as range is your ally and you can see and lock them but they cant lock or see you in radar.

Sure i lose some engine and armor but its never been a problem even when lights hound me down. Jets and PPC fire usually scare lights away.

However dont think ECM is that good vs ssrm. There are plenty of exploiting ravens and commandos that load exclusive SSRM +ECM loadouts just to abuse the SSRM lock mechanic glitch plus ecm disrupt or counter mode to hunt down other ecm lights.

Simply put, you cant turn fight them because the SSRM lock glitch allows them to retain lock and shoot you even from behind and the ECM allows them to force ssrm carrying light mechs to fight you with low damage guns while they punch guaranteed damage nonstop.

[Sagamore]

I was defeated by a lone spider on Conquest several times last night. Didn't help that the whole team was heavies and assaults.

[stjobe]

Tahribator, on 05 April 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

Spider is not here for doing damage anyway, it's clearly outlined in the hardpoints of variants. It's sole purpose is to distract/annoy/scout. Be a troll overall.

And that would be fine - if the game rewarded anything else but doing damage.

[Mystere]

Karma Police, on 05 April 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:

<Spider awesomeness>

Shh! Don't let the secret out!