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[Valdor Constantine]

the guy, is like a modern day Kai Allard Liao.....props to him

Edited by Valdor Constantine, 01 June 2013 - 05:43 PM.

[Soy]

LordBraxton, on 01 June 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

I do still see these tournaments as

he who plays the most matches

wins

if you are a good pilot eventually you will have 10 'perfect' games and be up on the charts

the better the pilot the less hours it takes

I cant stand to play this game for more than a few hours a week these days so....

maybe next time!

Exactly, which is why I would spend 12+ hours a day in SCEU tourny to land 6th for the final standings, and Kor would play for 4 hours, only 2 of those fending off others and myself in the Heavy category, and yet he'd still win 2 categories daily and at final weekly standings. While working full time. I took a day off in middle of the week and got bitched out by boss for dragging *** on 4 hours sleep a few days and being lazy on the job. Kor works construction. I don't get it.

Dudes legit. His aiming, in particular, and positioning is better than 99.99% of ppl who ever played this game, without question.

[Sephlock]

Maybe he has help.

[Chavette]

Anyone played with seplock? I bet he plays like skat, or doesn't play at all... I just know.

[Petroshka]

We should be happy that a quality player like Koreanese plays this game. It's what gets more people interested and attracted to it. People are attracted by skill and challenge. This not only boosts PGI's numbers and income, but also our player base and ultimately the game's quality.

[Sephlock]

Chavette, on 01 June 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

Anyone played with seplock? I bet he plays like skat, or doesn't play at all... I just know.

I'm going to interpret that as a compliment, even though I know it isn't .

For what it's worth, I tend to prioritize having fun (or experimenting with various builds/strategies) over ruthless efficiency.

Edited by Sephlock, 02 June 2013 - 04:16 PM.

[General Taskeen]

Petroshka, on 02 June 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

We should be happy that a quality player like Koreanese plays this game. It's what gets more people interested and attracted to it. People are attracted by skill and challenge. This not only boosts PGI's numbers and income, but also our player base and ultimately the game's quality.

I must be the Anti-Hero of Mech Warrior Online then. All I did during tournaments was purposely prolong the matches so people would whine about their rank losses . Trolling the "meta beta," one game at a time.

[AlmightyAeng]

Someone posted in ATD 40 that Koreanese quit MWO because of the poor weapon balance.

Anyone know if there is truth to this statement?

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Ghost Badger, on 06 June 2013 - 09:38 AM, said:

Someone posted in ATD 40 that Koreanese quit MWO because of the poor weapon balance.

Anyone know if there is truth to this statement?

That's why I was checking out this thread too lol.

[PEEFsmash]

Ghost Badger, on 06 June 2013 - 09:38 AM, said:

Someone posted in ATD 40 that Koreanese quit MWO because of the poor weapon balance.

Anyone know if there is truth to this statement?

Yep, he is in my unit (DV8) and he quit because he does not trust PGI to make reasonable balance changes. I wish he didn't because he was the most well known (and probably best) player playing MWO, but he couldn't take it anymore, and moved on to a different game.

It is a huge loss, and a huge failing for the devs. The fact that they haven't been reaching out to the competitive community to help them balance has shown in their extremely poor feel for balance. With just a little help from us (and we would do it for free of course), PGI would have a great idea of what is too good and what isn't good enough from the players who can actually aim, work together as a team, position themselves, etc. Balancing for the loudest posters on the forums (who are probably bad) will never work.

Edited by PEEFsmash, 06 June 2013 - 10:56 AM.

[xDeityx]

PEEFsmash, on 06 June 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

Yep, he is in my unit (DV8) and he quit because he does not trust PGI to make reasonable balance changes. I wish he didn't because he was the most well known (and probably best) player playing MWO, but he couldn't take it anymore, and moved on to a different game.

It is a huge loss, and a huge failing for the devs. The fact that they haven't been reaching out to the competitive community to help them balance has shown in their extremely poor feel for balance. With just a little help from us (and we would do it for free of course), PGI would have a great idea of what is too good and what isn't good enough from the players who can actually aim, work together as a team, position themselves, etc. Balancing for the loudest posters on the forums (who are probably bad) will never work.

The devs are suffering from the Dunning-Kruger Effect. They don't even realize how bad the balance is because the ones making the decisions simply aren't good at the actual gameplay. MW:LL suffered horribly from this as well. I was an alpha tester on the MWLL dev team and got to see how it hurt the game first-hand. It's incredibly painful to see it happening again.

Meanwhile games that are serious about having a competitive scene are reaching out to their best players in order to avoid debacles like what PGI has been doing to LRMs recently.

[General Taskeen]

However, MW:LL wisened up in its later development and made some very nice weapon balance changes. Also, they did so and made the game for free. Probably the best in any Mech game ever for stuff like LB-X, AC's, UAC's, Active/Passive Radar, ECM, NARC, SRM's, LRM's, etc. Some of those MW:LL Developers are on these forums.

Edited by General Taskeen, 06 June 2013 - 12:25 PM.

[xDeityx]

They did wise up by putting Maus and Andreas (two very skilled players for those who don't know them) in charge of weapon balance, but it was too little too late I think.

[General Taskeen]

xDeityx, on 06 June 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

They did wise up by putting Maus and Andreas (two very skilled players for those who don't know them) in charge of weapon balance, but it was too little too late I think.

But can PGI smart up and do the same is the question. If they took in talent from some of the most experienced developers of MW:LL, especially the balance designers, the balancing act in MWO wouldn't be taking this long.

[xDeityx]

General Taskeen, on 06 June 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

But can PGI smart up and do the same is the question. If they took in talent from some of the most experienced developers of MW:LL, especially the balance designers, the balancing act in MWO wouldn't be taking this long.

I think politics comes into play. First you have to get someone to admit that they don't know how to do their job and that they need help. I'm sure whoever is in charge of balance has a thousand excuses and a believable narrative as to why the balance is in such poor shape now. Here's hoping they can put their pride aside for the sake of the game though.

[PappySmurf]

Well when he learns to play without his trainer let me know? If 99% of these so called great tournament players came over to GameRanger loaded up even stock Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries I could kick all there ***** 1 by 1 and I know a lot of old Mechwarrior pilots that could do the same. MWO truly is not a highly pilot skill based game the mechs are to slow and move terrible compared to how they moved in MW4 and MW3.Its no wonder these kids think there so good I just have to laugh out loud at them. Bring back the same type of mech movement and game play as MW4 and a lot of the old pilots will come back and school the kids many still do even thought this game is really getting better it still has a ways to go to be as good as even MW4 series was.

[Sephlock]

xDeityx, on 06 June 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

I think politics comes into play. First you have to get someone to admit that they don't know how to do their job and that they need help. I'm sure whoever is in charge of balance has a thousand excuses and a believable narrative as to why the balance is in such poor shape now. Here's hoping they can put their pride aside for the sake of the game though.

I'm still convinced it was some dev's girlfriend who came up with the "LBX and MGs as critseekers" idea, and that's why it's set in stone.

[kaffeangst]

@PappySmurf

So are you saying that you're in favor of faster, easier to control mechs? Because, at least to me, that sounds more in the direction of arcade, rather than simulation. What's your stance on third-person view?

[Drehl]

@ koreanese:

Do you have some jenner f footage? Beeing an over average jenner pilot by myself (at least I think so ), I'm realy interested to see what is considered an elite light pilot.

[xDeityx]

Drehl, on 06 June 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

@ koreanese:

Do you have some jenner f footage? Beeing an over average jenner pilot by myself (at least I think so ), I'm realy interested to see what is considered an elite light pilot.

Here's a 1v4 win in a Jenner I found by searching youtube for "Koreanese Jenner." It's from the perspective of a teammate piloting an Atlas, so skip to 8:00 to see it from the Jenner's perspective after the Atlas pilot goes down.