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#1 Caleb Brightmore

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 09:35 AM

Yesterday I was in the Canyon Network. In a SDR-5D ERPPC x 1
There was Me and My teams Atlas V.S. a hunchie, atlas,raven,spider,and a cat.

The enemy Atlas opened up with LRM's and I charged him as he targeted my teams Atlas.

Long story short our Atlas eats the Hunchie , I cored the cat from behind and take out the two lights with pretty good shots. ( the SDR-5K went down quite nicely on camera)

Next thing I know it's me vs an Atlas everyone else is dead.

I dance around the atlas not paying attention to his loadout.

I know he has LRM 20 cause I saw them fire and after about 4 minutes of dancing around I realize why he can't even register a glancing hit off of me.

Here was the Loadout........ATLAS-AS7-D

2X PPC
2X LRM 20
TAG

Notice anything odd?

That's right since you wanted to BOAT PPC's and LRM's you failed to realize one thing.

YOU CAN'T HIT ME INSIDE OF 90 METERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which is exactly where I am trying to stay so you can't get lucky and I stray and you get a missle lock at 200M because I turned a bit to wide.

Final Totals: 733 Damage 4 kills 1 assist

I am uploading the video of this to Youtube so you can see first hand why perhaps your boat BY ITSELF while annoying isn't really that good especially when your CATAPULT just stands there "Atlas Happy" clicking away and takes 3 to the core like this was last week and he could get away with that.

You will move out of my direct LOS or you will die. :(

Now if that LRM patch would come to make you more aim dependent without team support, as it should be with indirect fire, that would be cool :)

I am not slamming the pilot you can carry whatever you want but for you to put that loadout on your mech indicates you love the META so I have no sympathy for your demise.

Next time I won't dance for the camera I will stand right in front of your Atlas and KILL you.

To the Atlas pilot from my team...... Thanks for holding our base until I got across the whole map lol it wasn't pretty but it worked ;)

Edited by Caleb Brightmore, 23 May 2013 - 09:53 AM.


#2 Ngamok

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 09:40 AM

Clearly he will be changing the PPCs to ER PPCs.

#3 Caleb Brightmore

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 09:42 AM

View PostNgamok, on 23 May 2013 - 09:40 AM, said:

Clearly he will be changing the PPCs to ER PPCs.


If he didn't by now.......Just saying lol

#4 General Taskeen

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 09:50 AM

PPC's in TT are dangerous inside 90m. The pilot can turn off the field inhibitor for full damage, but risk the ppc exploding or damage backsplash on their own mech.

#5 Caleb Brightmore

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 09:52 AM

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View PostGeneral Taskeen, on 23 May 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

PPC's in TT are dangerous inside 90m. The pilot can turn off the field inhibitor for full damage, but risk the ppc exploding or damage backsplash on their own mech.



I agree but in MWO that makes no sense :)

#6 IceSerpent

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:05 AM

View PostCaleb Brightmore, on 23 May 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

Here was the Loadout........ATLAS-AS7-D

2X PPC
2X LRM 20
TAG

Notice anything odd?

That's right since you wanted to BOAT PPC's and LRM's you failed to realize one thing.

YOU CAN'T HIT ME INSIDE OF 90 METERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hmm...guys, should we tell him about linear damage drop on PPCs now or wait for him to encounter an Atlas pilot who actually can aim? :)

#7 Caleb Brightmore

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:10 AM

View PostIceSerpent, on 23 May 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:


Hmm...guys, should we tell him about linear damage drop on PPCs now or wait for him to encounter an Atlas pilot who actually can aim? :)


What's the damage to a moving target at 20 meters?
I'm way more afraid of lasers than linear damage I will glady trade downgrade damage versus 10 everytime I hit you any day of the week.

And it wasn't his aim that stunk it was the loadout since I use an ERPPC I have a pretty good idea of how to avoid them in a light.

Can I be hit yes but it's rare.....That loadout is junk you can claim he can't aim but at 145.9 kph it's a beast if they are in close.

Edited by Caleb Brightmore, 23 May 2013 - 10:13 AM.


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:18 AM

View PostCaleb Brightmore, on 23 May 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

What's the damage to a moving target at 20 meters?


Linear drop from 10 dmg at 90m to 0 dmg at 0m.

#9 Caleb Brightmore

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:40 AM

Ok thank you so that would be lets say he is doing 4-6 and I am doing 10 and I destroyed one so he starts at 4-6 and ends up at 1-2 lets just say for arguement.
Now downgrade that damage even further because I am moving so even though it is pinpoint it still records partial hits and he is doing about 1/5th the damage he should have done from distance.

Is that hairy for an SDR yes "If the Atlas pilot can even get a clean shot off but not if it's moving".

Now did I make a few "stop and go" bullet dodges in front of him to kind of bullfighter him into firing badly yes.
Was he the best Atlas pilot I have faced absolutely not he had no idea how to fight a light in an assault he stood right next to a wall a refused to put his back to it so I had all four sides to run.

I would suspect however that even had he with that loadout it wouldn't have helped.
Had he had ERPPC maybe if he was a skilled Atlas pilot and could not panic everytime he missed.

Your point is well taken. Against you for example maybe it would have been harder but the weapon effectiveness of that loadout wouldn't scare me no matter who was the Atlas pilot personally.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:52 AM

View PostCaleb Brightmore, on 23 May 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

I agree but in MWO that makes no sense :(
Hmm, how does that not make sense? I thought people want more simulation aspects to their Mech Warrior with more button press management.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:57 AM

View PostCaleb Brightmore, on 23 May 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

I would suspect however that even had he with that loadout it wouldn't have helped.
Had he had ERPPC maybe if he was a skilled Atlas pilot and could not panic everytime he missed.

Your point is well taken. Against you for example maybe it would have been harder but the weapon effectiveness of that loadout wouldn't scare me no matter who was the Atlas pilot personally.


I agree that this particular loadout is not quite optimal - I would either go for ERPPCs or large lasers myself, but a good Atlas pilot would still take out a Spider with it - even with reduced damage, an Atlas can absorb more shots than Spider. The main danger of that setup though is when it has another LRM boat to support it - chain-firing PPCs disables your ECM even at point blank range, so you get hit by his teammate if you stay close and get hit by his own LRMs when you try to disengage.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 11:03 AM

View PostGeneral Taskeen, on 23 May 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

PPC's in TT are dangerous inside 90m. The pilot can turn off the field inhibitor for full damage, but risk the ppc exploding or damage backsplash on their own mech.

that's not in original BT just a pen to hit.

#13 Caleb Brightmore

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 11:31 AM

View PostGeneral Taskeen, on 23 May 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

Hmm, how does that not make sense? I thought people want more simulation aspects to their Mech Warrior with more button press management.



It makes no sense because we are NOT playing TT we are playing MWO and it doesn't work like that in MWO.
What it does there does not work here unless programmed to do so by the DEV's.
Your loadout is determined by the game your are playing since this isnt TT like I said and proved by killing him it made no sense.



View PostIceSerpent, on 23 May 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:


I agree that this particular loadout is not quite optimal - I would either go for ERPPCs or large lasers myself, but a good Atlas pilot would still take out a Spider with it - even with reduced damage, an Atlas can absorb more shots than Spider. The main danger of that setup though is when it has another LRM boat to support it - chain-firing PPCs disables your ECM even at point blank range, so you get hit by his teammate if you stay close and get hit by his own LRMs when you try to disengage.



Very true!
Too bad his CAT just bent over and took 3 to the "hindquarters" lol
Yes I know the CAT lost that match for them but shhhh this is about bad loadouts :(





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