Hi, I was Planning on doing a DIY Computer build for the first time instead of buying a off the shelf computer, I was wondering if anyone here can give their opinions on it and help me choose Parts my budget is $300-400, I plan on getting some used part's from the Local Classifieds (http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/ ) to build it with for cheap.
this is my Semi Confirmed Part's list so far (Replied and got a reply back and is still available, Never picked up yet so could change):
Case: Standard White ATX Computer Case with 24 Pin 350W PSU w/Case Fan, 2 USB Ports up front with Audio Jacks for $15: http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ487879175
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce 520 Low-profile graphics card, Asking $40 but i could get it for $35:
http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ488391160 was told it's this one to a T: http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=039977 (2GB is a Typo I was told)(Video card could change, View Below for other Options)
Hard Drive: Used "750 GB 3.5" SATA internal desktop Hard drive" ($35 Firm, Hitachi, 7200rpm, mfg: jly 2009, reformatted And wiped) Keeps getting relisted, link may change often) http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ488319159
Other possible Parts (Replied and no reply back yet):
Processor: Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz Duel Core for $120 (Replied and asked is it still available and if the ad would be removed when sold?): http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ485593625
Motherboard: Asus P8H61-MLE Socket 1155 Mother Board for $25 (Replied and said i may be interested if it still works (Had Slightly bent CPU Pins, were carefully bent back and hasn't been tested, was working 100% before the issue)): http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ476484368 I Figure it's the same or similar to this one new: http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=050961
Ram: 2*4GB CORSAIR 1600MHz DDR3 Desktop Memory for $40 (Replied and asked if it's still available): http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ485787251
or I could go with some G. Skill Riptide or OCZ Gold Edition 1333MHz DDR3 RAM for $15 per 4GB Stick (Same seller, Replied to the G. Skill ad and ask how many is left, that i would be interested in 2 sticks(1 Pack) for a Computer Build, if none was left that I may be interested in 2 sticks of the OCZ Gold unless I decide to spend the extra $10 for the 2x4GB Sticks of : http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ471717568 & http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ487722055
Other Video card options (Under $50):
ASUS NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS for $23: http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ434909159
bfg geforce 8600 gts for $20:
http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ472790688
XFX GeForce 8600 GTS for $40:
http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ483761712
EVGA GeForce 8800GTS for $45:http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ470801856
NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT for $40: http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ480301100
Pny Nvidia Geforce Gt 610 for $30: http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ486266643
video card nx 7300g (Nvidia GeForce 7300GT?) for $15: http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ476210124
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Opinions On A Computer Build?
Started by Lord Letto, May 26 2013 05:33 PM
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 06:30 PM
What are you planning to do with the computer? Have to admit this might be the first time ive seen someone spending more money on RAM than their graphics card.
Case: Standard White ATX Computer Case with 24 Pin 350W PSU w/Case Fan, 2 USB Ports up front with Audio Jacks for $15: http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ487879175
Id be asking for what type of PSU it is, how old etc. PSU's get more inefficient over time. Be careful if this is a PSU from a prebuilt computer (ie from bestbuy) as they often spec very cheap PSU's which dont age well. I am not great with power requirement calculations but i would be also concerned that 350W is not enough especially with aging.
Be extremely careful with that mobo, bent pins can be sketchy at best, also i would ask what defects are on the board, as the seller mentions it.
Lord Letto, on 26 May 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:
Case: Standard White ATX Computer Case with 24 Pin 350W PSU w/Case Fan, 2 USB Ports up front with Audio Jacks for $15: http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ487879175
Id be asking for what type of PSU it is, how old etc. PSU's get more inefficient over time. Be careful if this is a PSU from a prebuilt computer (ie from bestbuy) as they often spec very cheap PSU's which dont age well. I am not great with power requirement calculations but i would be also concerned that 350W is not enough especially with aging.
Be extremely careful with that mobo, bent pins can be sketchy at best, also i would ask what defects are on the board, as the seller mentions it.
Edited by Patrick Wolf, 26 May 2013 - 06:33 PM.
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 06:38 PM
its late at night / early in the mornig for me so plz excuse anything weird ;D
at first - plz summarize your parts in a list. makes things easier for everyone who wants to help!
2nd - if your budget is limited I would suggest some AMD stuff! something like:
phemon 2 x4 965
am3+ board
I guess you can have that 2 parts for the price of the i3 and your mainboard is ready for the next generation of amd processors, if you ever want to upgrade.
3rd - get some solid PSU! remember: this thing puts juice into every part of your PC, you want it to be good!
4th - that low profile graphic cards are really ..small, but for playing games like MW:O you should get something like a Nvidia 460 TI / AMD HD5870 minimum, to have some decent FPS.
5th - I would buy a new HDD
good night
at first - plz summarize your parts in a list. makes things easier for everyone who wants to help!
2nd - if your budget is limited I would suggest some AMD stuff! something like:
phemon 2 x4 965
am3+ board
I guess you can have that 2 parts for the price of the i3 and your mainboard is ready for the next generation of amd processors, if you ever want to upgrade.
3rd - get some solid PSU! remember: this thing puts juice into every part of your PC, you want it to be good!
4th - that low profile graphic cards are really ..small, but for playing games like MW:O you should get something like a Nvidia 460 TI / AMD HD5870 minimum, to have some decent FPS.
5th - I would buy a new HDD
good night
Edited by reiGngehoWn, 26 May 2013 - 06:40 PM.
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 06:51 PM
I did my own build last fall, but with all new parts and a much larger budget. I'm no expert and wish you luck in finding the parts for your build.
My biggest concerns.
Case is a good deal but with only 350W Power expect to need to upgrade, Not much ventilation visible, you may need a good CPU cooler, will the case fit your chosen MoBo. For only $15 it may be worth the chance.
Biggest concern here is the MoBo. Bent pins are bad news, the most expensive item in this build is the processor, is it worth the risk of damaging it?
The graphics card listed are all older cards but the GeForce 520 might serve you needs until you can afford to upgrade. Be aware that this card will eat 300W of that little 350W PSU in your chosen case. In hindsight the case may not even have the proper power connectors for a newer video card.
My biggest concerns.
Case is a good deal but with only 350W Power expect to need to upgrade, Not much ventilation visible, you may need a good CPU cooler, will the case fit your chosen MoBo. For only $15 it may be worth the chance.
Biggest concern here is the MoBo. Bent pins are bad news, the most expensive item in this build is the processor, is it worth the risk of damaging it?
The graphics card listed are all older cards but the GeForce 520 might serve you needs until you can afford to upgrade. Be aware that this card will eat 300W of that little 350W PSU in your chosen case. In hindsight the case may not even have the proper power connectors for a newer video card.
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 06:56 PM
Truly you need a Gtx card. All models are better than their Gt cousins. The Gtx 460ti is a good entry level gpu for games like MWO.
I suggest waiting until you can spend money on.
i5 at least If not an i7.
750w PSU
Gtx 460ti don't forget you can sli three of these later if you so chose.
Ram is Ram
A case is a case. If your board fits.
If you get a hard disk you should get an SSD.
I suggest waiting until you can spend money on.
i5 at least If not an i7.
750w PSU
Gtx 460ti don't forget you can sli three of these later if you so chose.
Ram is Ram
A case is a case. If your board fits.
If you get a hard disk you should get an SSD.
Edited by Joe Kid, 26 May 2013 - 07:03 PM.
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 09:15 PM
In this price range you might want to consider doing an AMD FM2 build with an a10 6800k when it comes out next month. This game will run on one on low/medium settings but it'll definitely (well probably) run better than a GT520.
Since you're a canadian I'll use newegg.ca and use a 5800k as a placeholder. You can probably find a better deal
CPU+GPU: a10 5800k $136
MB: MSI FM2-A55M $68
RAM: 2133 MHz GeiL EVO Leggara Series $80
PSU: Corsair 430M $52
CASE: Cheap Rosewill microATX midtower case $32
HDD: That cheap one you listed or something similar
Total $420 only a bit over your budget which you can save up before the a10 6800k comes out next month. Also, holy crap stuff is expensive in Canada.
You can also save some money on RAM by buying some cheaper RAM and overclocking it. If you're patient you will be able to find a sale on most of these components and could probably save $30 or $40 dollars and maybe $10-20 on the RAM.
Later on you can upgrade to a good AMD GPU and just use the APU as a quad core CPU. Maybe later on the graphics part of the APU will be useful for physics type work. Plus FM2 is probably going to be around for at least a couple more CPUs so the upgradeability is pretty good.
Alternatively, Get a Phenom ii x4 for $100, get a cheap micro ATX AM3+ mother board, get the cheapest 4GBx2 RAM kit you can find and buy an HD7770 or a used 6850. This will cost more but should give you better performance.
Since you're a canadian I'll use newegg.ca and use a 5800k as a placeholder. You can probably find a better deal
CPU+GPU: a10 5800k $136
MB: MSI FM2-A55M $68
RAM: 2133 MHz GeiL EVO Leggara Series $80
PSU: Corsair 430M $52
CASE: Cheap Rosewill microATX midtower case $32
HDD: That cheap one you listed or something similar
Total $420 only a bit over your budget which you can save up before the a10 6800k comes out next month. Also, holy crap stuff is expensive in Canada.
You can also save some money on RAM by buying some cheaper RAM and overclocking it. If you're patient you will be able to find a sale on most of these components and could probably save $30 or $40 dollars and maybe $10-20 on the RAM.
Later on you can upgrade to a good AMD GPU and just use the APU as a quad core CPU. Maybe later on the graphics part of the APU will be useful for physics type work. Plus FM2 is probably going to be around for at least a couple more CPUs so the upgradeability is pretty good.
Alternatively, Get a Phenom ii x4 for $100, get a cheap micro ATX AM3+ mother board, get the cheapest 4GBx2 RAM kit you can find and buy an HD7770 or a used 6850. This will cost more but should give you better performance.
Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 26 May 2013 - 09:37 PM.
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 09:25 PM
For finding better prices id highly recommend using http://www.shopbot.ca/ to do your price comparisons for parts, and then using http://www.memoryexpress.com/ for price matching, usually you can save loads of cash this way
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:03 AM
Najonii, on 26 May 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:
The graphics card listed are all older cards but the GeForce 520 might serve you needs until you can afford to upgrade. Be aware that this card will eat 300W of that little 350W PSU in your chosen case. In hindsight the case may not even have the proper power connectors for a newer video card.
absolutely wrong! card is to slow and consumes a maximum of 29W!!!!! PLZ, dont tell those stupid lies.... ***** geforce 520 got no power connector!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Kid, on 26 May 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:
I suggest waiting until you can spend money on.
i5 at least If not an i7.
750w PSU
Gtx 460ti don't forget you can sli three of these later if you so chose.
Ram is Ram
A case is a case. If your board fits.
If you get a hard disk you should get an SSD.
his budget is limited, so you want him to buy a SSD, i7, 750W PSU ? sorry but WRRRROOOOONGG.
you wont even need any i7 for gaming! i5 is all you need!
750W MEAN NOTHING, if the brand is something like LCPower(WORST CRAP EVER MADE). My 385W Enermax PSU is enough for my AMD FX4100 + HD7870 + 3 HDD's + 8GB ram. It cots 65€ for only 385W, but thats what you get.
gtx 460ti triple SLI? it is getting ridiculous! at least I can see why you chose a PSU with 750W....
no offence at all, but some people do not seem to know what they are talking about ....
Greetz
Edited by reiGngehoWn, 27 May 2013 - 04:14 AM.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:07 AM
Narcissistic Martyr, on 26 May 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:
In this price range you might want to consider doing an AMD FM2 build with an a10 6800k when it comes out next month. This game will run on one on low/medium settings but it'll definitely (well probably) run better than a GT520.
Since you're a canadian I'll use newegg.ca and use a 5800k as a placeholder. You can probably find a better deal
CPU+GPU: a10 5800k $136
MB: MSI FM2-A55M $68
RAM: 2133 MHz GeiL EVO Leggara Series $80
PSU: Corsair 430M $52
CASE: Cheap Rosewill microATX midtower case $32
HDD: That cheap one you listed or something similar
Total $420 only a bit over your budget which you can save up before the a10 6800k comes out next month. Also, holy crap stuff is expensive in Canada.
You can also save some money on RAM by buying some cheaper RAM and overclocking it. If you're patient you will be able to find a sale on most of these components and could probably save $30 or $40 dollars and maybe $10-20 on the RAM.
Later on you can upgrade to a good AMD GPU and just use the APU as a quad core CPU. Maybe later on the graphics part of the APU will be useful for physics type work. Plus FM2 is probably going to be around for at least a couple more CPUs so the upgradeability is pretty good.
Alternatively, Get a Phenom ii x4 for $100, get a cheap micro ATX AM3+ mother board, get the cheapest 4GBx2 RAM kit you can find and buy an HD7770 or a used 6850. This will cost more but should give you better performance.
Since you're a canadian I'll use newegg.ca and use a 5800k as a placeholder. You can probably find a better deal
CPU+GPU: a10 5800k $136
MB: MSI FM2-A55M $68
RAM: 2133 MHz GeiL EVO Leggara Series $80
PSU: Corsair 430M $52
CASE: Cheap Rosewill microATX midtower case $32
HDD: That cheap one you listed or something similar
Total $420 only a bit over your budget which you can save up before the a10 6800k comes out next month. Also, holy crap stuff is expensive in Canada.
You can also save some money on RAM by buying some cheaper RAM and overclocking it. If you're patient you will be able to find a sale on most of these components and could probably save $30 or $40 dollars and maybe $10-20 on the RAM.
Later on you can upgrade to a good AMD GPU and just use the APU as a quad core CPU. Maybe later on the graphics part of the APU will be useful for physics type work. Plus FM2 is probably going to be around for at least a couple more CPUs so the upgradeability is pretty good.
Alternatively, Get a Phenom ii x4 for $100, get a cheap micro ATX AM3+ mother board, get the cheapest 4GBx2 RAM kit you can find and buy an HD7770 or a used 6850. This will cost more but should give you better performance.
The advice listed here is going to be your best bet at your current budget, i would strongly suggest you listen to it, rather than the rubbish in some other posts....I7 and an SSD on a $400 budget..really.... /facepalm
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:48 AM
I'm getting solid 40-45FPS on my cheap build with highest settings at 720res (mostly parts from tiger-direct).
CPU: AMD FX4100 (I think around or under $100) The older quad Phenoms are getting into the $60 range now.
GPU 6770 (under $95 now, and the 7770/similar is coming up cheap too, as mentioned above)
RAM 8gigs 1600 (as two 4gig sticks totalling a measly $40)
You should be able to find a decent AM3+ board for $60 or less.
$40-50 will be plenty for a harddrive.
A $15 tower that includes a fan and $30-40+ is left over for a well-reviewed 450-600watt powersupply (I've been using a cheap diablotech 550 for $25 and it's been good for these last two years so far).
$400 of all new parts that've been treating me just fine. Also it's always ran very cool which I've come to appreciate..That's the downfall of a phenom system, they tend toward the hot side and will require you to pay a little more attention to which board you get to make sure it'll handle 125w to the cpu.
CPU: AMD FX4100 (I think around or under $100) The older quad Phenoms are getting into the $60 range now.
GPU 6770 (under $95 now, and the 7770/similar is coming up cheap too, as mentioned above)
RAM 8gigs 1600 (as two 4gig sticks totalling a measly $40)
You should be able to find a decent AM3+ board for $60 or less.
$40-50 will be plenty for a harddrive.
A $15 tower that includes a fan and $30-40+ is left over for a well-reviewed 450-600watt powersupply (I've been using a cheap diablotech 550 for $25 and it's been good for these last two years so far).
$400 of all new parts that've been treating me just fine. Also it's always ran very cool which I've come to appreciate..That's the downfall of a phenom system, they tend toward the hot side and will require you to pay a little more attention to which board you get to make sure it'll handle 125w to the cpu.
Edited by Frenchtoastman, 27 May 2013 - 05:08 AM.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:41 AM
Thanks People.
OK, I thought I had it posted in the first post but I guess not, it will be used for FSX (Microsoft Flight Simulator X), MWO, WoW(World of Warcraft), LoL(League of Legends), Maybe some other games i.e Minecraft, Kerbal Space Program, Faster Than Light, Doom 3, Halo, Would also be used for surfing the internet, looking things up and watching videos on Youtube.
as for parts, I chose the i3 Cause I was told that the i Series is good for FSX, the i3 is part of the i series and the cheapest yet got a speed of around 3.3GHz Duel Core, also the reason for Nvidea Graphics is cause of FSX but also MWO, with FSX, I was told the ATI Cards could/would have trouble rendering stuff like clouds and causing them to flicker, as for MWO, it's the "Nvidia" Cry engine so I figure a Nvidia card would be decent. as for the case, Ii was told it would Fit Full ATX and Smaller Mobos, Removable side panels on both sides and removable PSU, replied back and asking for Make, Model and Age of the PSU. that cheap ram should be ok, I could get 8GB or DDR3 Ram for $30-40, depends if any is still available and whether or not I go for 1333MHz or the 1600MHz (BTW, as i'm typing this out, I just got a reply from the guy selling the 1333MHz Ram and there is 2 4GB G. Skill sticks left and Lots of the OCZ Gold Sticks Left), as for Mobo, I could look into going new for that, cheapest LGA1155 Mobo I could get is the ASRock H61M-HVS: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=048584 or the MSI H61M-P31/W8: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=053545 , Hard drive: I figure 750GB is all I would need for now and it's 7200RPM for just $35, New 3.5" Desktop hard drives is like $50-60 for only a 360GB or 500 GB, even a new 80GB is like $70 not on sale, plus I could possibly get the 2.5" 500GB from my laptop as secondary/Backup/Storage.
Also note, it might be a while before I could get the parts due to unforeseen event's where I could either spend or keep my money, I have like $297 with a income of $22.75 a month and around $60something at least every 3 months, and I may have to spend $300 to go on summer vacation with my family unless something comes up and me or my family can't go on vacation.
Semi Confirmed Part's list to date:
Standard White ATX Computer Cases with Power Supplies: http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ487879175
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce 520 Low-profile graphics card: http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ488391160
DDR3 10666 Desktop Memory - G.SKILL 4GB or OCZ Gold Edition OCZ3G1333LV4G 4GB DDR3 PC3-10666 / 1333MHz : http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ471717568 or http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ487722055
750 GB 3.5" SATA internal desktop Hard drive: http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ488319159
Edit: Don't know the Make, model or age of the PSU, I asked the guy and he said it's too many Questions for $15 and to go buy a New one instead (first I asked what type of Mobo will fit then I asked if it got removable side panels and both sides and if the PSU was removable, so only 2 Questions worth $15 Sale to Him), I replied back and asked buy a new Case or PSU, he replied back and said Both, $15 for a Case and 350W Power Supply is a Great Deal, he don't know the Brand of Power supply and he won't Check for $15.
OK, I thought I had it posted in the first post but I guess not, it will be used for FSX (Microsoft Flight Simulator X), MWO, WoW(World of Warcraft), LoL(League of Legends), Maybe some other games i.e Minecraft, Kerbal Space Program, Faster Than Light, Doom 3, Halo, Would also be used for surfing the internet, looking things up and watching videos on Youtube.
as for parts, I chose the i3 Cause I was told that the i Series is good for FSX, the i3 is part of the i series and the cheapest yet got a speed of around 3.3GHz Duel Core, also the reason for Nvidea Graphics is cause of FSX but also MWO, with FSX, I was told the ATI Cards could/would have trouble rendering stuff like clouds and causing them to flicker, as for MWO, it's the "Nvidia" Cry engine so I figure a Nvidia card would be decent. as for the case, Ii was told it would Fit Full ATX and Smaller Mobos, Removable side panels on both sides and removable PSU, replied back and asking for Make, Model and Age of the PSU. that cheap ram should be ok, I could get 8GB or DDR3 Ram for $30-40, depends if any is still available and whether or not I go for 1333MHz or the 1600MHz (BTW, as i'm typing this out, I just got a reply from the guy selling the 1333MHz Ram and there is 2 4GB G. Skill sticks left and Lots of the OCZ Gold Sticks Left), as for Mobo, I could look into going new for that, cheapest LGA1155 Mobo I could get is the ASRock H61M-HVS: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=048584 or the MSI H61M-P31/W8: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=053545 , Hard drive: I figure 750GB is all I would need for now and it's 7200RPM for just $35, New 3.5" Desktop hard drives is like $50-60 for only a 360GB or 500 GB, even a new 80GB is like $70 not on sale, plus I could possibly get the 2.5" 500GB from my laptop as secondary/Backup/Storage.
Also note, it might be a while before I could get the parts due to unforeseen event's where I could either spend or keep my money, I have like $297 with a income of $22.75 a month and around $60something at least every 3 months, and I may have to spend $300 to go on summer vacation with my family unless something comes up and me or my family can't go on vacation.
Semi Confirmed Part's list to date:
Standard White ATX Computer Cases with Power Supplies: http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ487879175
EVGA NVIDIA GeForce 520 Low-profile graphics card: http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ488391160
DDR3 10666 Desktop Memory - G.SKILL 4GB or OCZ Gold Edition OCZ3G1333LV4G 4GB DDR3 PC3-10666 / 1333MHz : http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ471717568 or http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ487722055
750 GB 3.5" SATA internal desktop Hard drive: http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ488319159
Edit: Don't know the Make, model or age of the PSU, I asked the guy and he said it's too many Questions for $15 and to go buy a New one instead (first I asked what type of Mobo will fit then I asked if it got removable side panels and both sides and if the PSU was removable, so only 2 Questions worth $15 Sale to Him), I replied back and asked buy a new Case or PSU, he replied back and said Both, $15 for a Case and 350W Power Supply is a Great Deal, he don't know the Brand of Power supply and he won't Check for $15.
Edited by Lord Letto, 27 May 2013 - 07:31 AM.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 07:51 AM
I've no idea about FSX, but certainly none of the other games even MWO will have any preference between an AMD or Nvidia GPU.
I3's are generally subpar chips compared to the competitor in the AMD side at this price level, the FM2 chips will be far better at every level.
RAM brands are almost identical aside from customer service aspects, 1600Mhz for gaming.
HDD size is not a massive factor on a budget, 750GB is reasonable, but it should be at least a 7200RPM drive.
GPU, a GT 520 is a total waste of time, it is not a GPU meant or designed for gaming, MWO will barely and i mean barely run on that and an i3 chip - Im actually pretty certain it will be unplayable.
$15 is not a bargain for a PSU, it's actually a warning sign pair this with the fact the seller won't even check make and model makes it simply alarm bells. If it's a terrible brand that is known to produce unstable PSU's, and is a few years old your running the risk of having it fail on you and smoking the rest of the computer, PSU's re incredibly important to get right, and before anyone tells you more wattage means nothing.
$500:
Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811148060
Power supply- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139049
Motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157331
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113280
GPU- integrated
RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148544
HDD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136769
ODD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106289
OS- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116986
Is $500 and just outside your budget, but it's the base to begin work with. if you already have an OS lined up you can take that off and already be in budget.
Failing that take the HDD's you talk about above, and your $50 above your budget, you can get 4GB of Crucial Ballistix Sport for $29 which brings you to $419.
Buying an I3 today, and a GT 520 and pre owned un named $15 PSU is like taking your $400 budget, putting it in the toilet and flushing it.
Edit: I do remember someone having issues with AMD intergrated APU's and MSFX, i don't know if they ever got it resolved but even with that for more modern games the APU and adding a standalone 79** series at a later date for hybrid xfire is a better solution.
I3's are generally subpar chips compared to the competitor in the AMD side at this price level, the FM2 chips will be far better at every level.
RAM brands are almost identical aside from customer service aspects, 1600Mhz for gaming.
HDD size is not a massive factor on a budget, 750GB is reasonable, but it should be at least a 7200RPM drive.
GPU, a GT 520 is a total waste of time, it is not a GPU meant or designed for gaming, MWO will barely and i mean barely run on that and an i3 chip - Im actually pretty certain it will be unplayable.
$15 is not a bargain for a PSU, it's actually a warning sign pair this with the fact the seller won't even check make and model makes it simply alarm bells. If it's a terrible brand that is known to produce unstable PSU's, and is a few years old your running the risk of having it fail on you and smoking the rest of the computer, PSU's re incredibly important to get right, and before anyone tells you more wattage means nothing.
$500:
Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811148060
Power supply- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139049
Motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157331
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113280
GPU- integrated
RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148544
HDD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136769
ODD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106289
OS- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116986
Is $500 and just outside your budget, but it's the base to begin work with. if you already have an OS lined up you can take that off and already be in budget.
Failing that take the HDD's you talk about above, and your $50 above your budget, you can get 4GB of Crucial Ballistix Sport for $29 which brings you to $419.
Buying an I3 today, and a GT 520 and pre owned un named $15 PSU is like taking your $400 budget, putting it in the toilet and flushing it.
Edit: I do remember someone having issues with AMD intergrated APU's and MSFX, i don't know if they ever got it resolved but even with that for more modern games the APU and adding a standalone 79** series at a later date for hybrid xfire is a better solution.
Edited by DV McKenna, 27 May 2013 - 07:58 AM.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 07:52 AM
reiGngehoWn, on 26 May 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:
its late at night / early in the mornig for me so plz excuse anything weird ;D
at first - plz summarize your parts in a list. makes things easier for everyone who wants to help!
2nd - if your budget is limited I would suggest some AMD stuff! something like:
phemon 2 x4 965
am3+ board
I guess you can have that 2 parts for the price of the i3 and your mainboard is ready for the next generation of amd processors, if you ever want to upgrade.
3rd - get some solid PSU! remember: this thing puts juice into every part of your PC, you want it to be good!
4th - that low profile graphic cards are really ..small, but for playing games like MW:O you should get something like a Nvidia 460 TI / AMD HD5870 minimum, to have some decent FPS.
5th - I would buy a new HDD
good night
at first - plz summarize your parts in a list. makes things easier for everyone who wants to help!
2nd - if your budget is limited I would suggest some AMD stuff! something like:
phemon 2 x4 965
am3+ board
I guess you can have that 2 parts for the price of the i3 and your mainboard is ready for the next generation of amd processors, if you ever want to upgrade.
3rd - get some solid PSU! remember: this thing puts juice into every part of your PC, you want it to be good!
4th - that low profile graphic cards are really ..small, but for playing games like MW:O you should get something like a Nvidia 460 TI / AMD HD5870 minimum, to have some decent FPS.
5th - I would buy a new HDD
good night
Going with his suggestions... I personally like AMD, and a Core i5 or i7 is going to cost you alot more than a comparable AMD chip. Check out the FX series or the Phenom... they can be had for $100 and give Core i5 performance levels.
Also, you need a solid PSU... I've seen too many people skimp on the PSU, and then the next thing they know the PSU blows up and they are left having to buy a new motherboard because spending an additional $20 was too much for a quality PSU.
Also, scratch the used Hard Drive. I don't know where you are from, but you can get a new drive on NewEgg.com or TigerDirect.com for $50...
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:20 AM
Hm, if you really want to stick with this setup you should get ready for some League of Legends action!
The rest won't run with decent fps!
Greetz
The rest won't run with decent fps!
Greetz
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 09:41 AM
Well i could go with AMD CPU, just that I heard they are more Power Hungry, As for PSU, looking around, I maybe able to get a 500W one New for around $30: Unknown brand, may contact store to find out, 20/24 Pin 500W w/ SATA, 500W Max Power, 115/230V, 1 80mm fan for cooling for $29.99: http://www.factorydi...24-Pin_W_Sata/0
Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W v2.3 Power Supply is on clearance sale for $25.88, only 1 left in stock and it's at the local store: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=021875
CoolMax V-500 500W Power Supply is on sale for $29.99 till the end of June: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=028789
if I go for More Watts:
Cooler Master 525W Extreme 2 v2.3 Power Supply is on Sale till the end of May for $34.99 ($5 Discount and $10 Mail in Rebate): http://www.canadacom...&item_id=051198
anything more then that would be $50+
As for a HDD, a Brand new one would be likely +$50, cheapest would be $60 unless I go and get it today then it would be $55 for a Seagate Barracuda (ST500DM002) SATA3 6.0Gb/s 500GB 16MB Cache: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=041042
for a extra $3 Not on sale and I could Special Order a WD Blue (WD3200AAKX) 320GB SATA3 6GB/s 7200RPM 16MB Buffer for $63, the 500GB Model is $60 Today only, off sale it's $65, then it goes $75+ Off sale for 1TB and Bigger (Except for a WD Black 500GB $5 off today only for $75, $80 off Sale)
if I get a Refurbished HDD though, I could get a 320GB 7200RPM SATA for $45, 500GB 7200RPM SATA for $50, 750GB 7200RPM SATA for $60, 1TB 7200RPM for $68 or 1.5TB 7200RPM SATA for $70
That Used HDD is 750GB, Hitachi, mfg: jly 2009, 7200rpm, reformatted, wiped for only $35
As for Ram, I might be able to Get 2 sticks of 4GB Corsair XMS3 1600MHz Ram for $40: http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ485787251, Normally $32 for just 1 4GB Stick or $38 for 2 2GB Sticks of it, and my understanding is that ram is optimized for Intel i5, i7 and Core 2 (how different would i3 Be?)
If I go the AMD CPU and Socket route, I could get a AMD A4-5300 (65W) Dual-Core Socket FM2, 3.4GHz APU, 1Mb Cache, 32nm New for $55: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=058360, or Go all out and spend what I would for the i3 ($120) and get the AMD X6 FX-6300 (95W) Six-Core Socket AM3+, 3.5GHz CPU, 8Mb Cache, 32nm (FD6300WMHKBOX) on sale for $120 if I get it today, Regular price $125: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=053298
as for AMD Mobos, Cheapest FM2 Socket is the MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 for $59: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=054228
or a extra Buck for the Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 at $60 and would need to be Special Ordered: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=056421
For AM3+, would be a ASUS M5A78L-M LX PLUS for $60: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=042789
Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W v2.3 Power Supply is on clearance sale for $25.88, only 1 left in stock and it's at the local store: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=021875
CoolMax V-500 500W Power Supply is on sale for $29.99 till the end of June: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=028789
if I go for More Watts:
Cooler Master 525W Extreme 2 v2.3 Power Supply is on Sale till the end of May for $34.99 ($5 Discount and $10 Mail in Rebate): http://www.canadacom...&item_id=051198
anything more then that would be $50+
As for a HDD, a Brand new one would be likely +$50, cheapest would be $60 unless I go and get it today then it would be $55 for a Seagate Barracuda (ST500DM002) SATA3 6.0Gb/s 500GB 16MB Cache: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=041042
for a extra $3 Not on sale and I could Special Order a WD Blue (WD3200AAKX) 320GB SATA3 6GB/s 7200RPM 16MB Buffer for $63, the 500GB Model is $60 Today only, off sale it's $65, then it goes $75+ Off sale for 1TB and Bigger (Except for a WD Black 500GB $5 off today only for $75, $80 off Sale)
if I get a Refurbished HDD though, I could get a 320GB 7200RPM SATA for $45, 500GB 7200RPM SATA for $50, 750GB 7200RPM SATA for $60, 1TB 7200RPM for $68 or 1.5TB 7200RPM SATA for $70
That Used HDD is 750GB, Hitachi, mfg: jly 2009, 7200rpm, reformatted, wiped for only $35
As for Ram, I might be able to Get 2 sticks of 4GB Corsair XMS3 1600MHz Ram for $40: http://kitchener.kij...QAdIdZ485787251, Normally $32 for just 1 4GB Stick or $38 for 2 2GB Sticks of it, and my understanding is that ram is optimized for Intel i5, i7 and Core 2 (how different would i3 Be?)
If I go the AMD CPU and Socket route, I could get a AMD A4-5300 (65W) Dual-Core Socket FM2, 3.4GHz APU, 1Mb Cache, 32nm New for $55: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=058360, or Go all out and spend what I would for the i3 ($120) and get the AMD X6 FX-6300 (95W) Six-Core Socket AM3+, 3.5GHz CPU, 8Mb Cache, 32nm (FD6300WMHKBOX) on sale for $120 if I get it today, Regular price $125: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=053298
as for AMD Mobos, Cheapest FM2 Socket is the MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 for $59: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=054228
or a extra Buck for the Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 at $60 and would need to be Special Ordered: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=056421
For AM3+, would be a ASUS M5A78L-M LX PLUS for $60: http://www.canadacom...&item_id=042789
Edited by Lord Letto, 27 May 2013 - 09:49 AM.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 09:50 AM
$300-$400 is an upgrade budget, not a build budget. Sorry, but all you can get for that will be stuff that's way outdated by now. Now a budget of $800-$1200 you can build a good rig, good, that's all, not great, not top of the line, but dependable and good.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 10:56 AM
A 1200 US$ rig should be able to play anything maxed(including a monitor) ... or am I missing some new games??
outdated maybe, but not outclassed! the phenom 2 still kicks ***, its one hell of a CPU!
DV McKenna and Narcisstic Martyr both posted a system ~400 bucks.
@OP
Do you have any stuff left from your old PC? HDD or a case? Or maybe a friend of you got some old parts... so you could save some money and get some better GPU ....
indeed, PC stuff seems to be pretty expensive in canada. Im from europe so... idk
outdated maybe, but not outclassed! the phenom 2 still kicks ***, its one hell of a CPU!
DV McKenna and Narcisstic Martyr both posted a system ~400 bucks.
@OP
Do you have any stuff left from your old PC? HDD or a case? Or maybe a friend of you got some old parts... so you could save some money and get some better GPU ....
indeed, PC stuff seems to be pretty expensive in canada. Im from europe so... idk
Edited by reiGngehoWn, 27 May 2013 - 10:58 AM.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 11:17 AM
I have a Acer Aspire AS5560-7679 Laptop with a Broken Screen and I can't use it, I could maybe use the 2.5" 500GB Harddrive from it.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 11:21 AM
Lord Letto, on 27 May 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:
I have a Acer Aspire AS5560-7679 Laptop with a Broken Screen and I can't use it, I could maybe use the 2.5" 500GB Harddrive from it.
yeah thats something we can work with! loading times may suffer, windows will start slower, but it would work and wont affect your FPS!
edit: you do want your case to have a 2.5" slot
Edited by reiGngehoWn, 27 May 2013 - 11:52 AM.
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