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[LegoPirate]

jumpsniping is now dead. everyone get your stalkers out since thats the only viable sniper left.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

Shinikaru, on 04 June 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

This game WAS good combat wise. Then the devs started listening to all the whiners and we get things like this retardation.

Jump sniping, "fixed". as is anything else you can do like jumping over a teammate so you can hit the enemy behind him, or just plain sighting the incoming forces under ecm.

I lost interested with this game with this one, PGI is totally clueless and their franchise is doomed to poor sales metrics with this constant misread of what mechwarrior should be about.

BY the way, JJ''s were always intended to be a small advantage in fighting, making them this combat ineffective to solve the problems of the loudest group of whiners on the forums is laughable.

Hey PGI. do me a fun favor, source up the people complaining about "pop-tarts", as in get their names and look at their game metrics, give this change 2 weeks, then check out the same players metrics. I BET THEY STILL SUCK AT THE GAME. I also bet they are complaining about some other thing that's making them loose a lot.

No. It wasnt good. That's like saying Halo: Reach was a good game because of Armor Lock.

The game was stupid, mad people quit playing it because of poptar.dmania, the **** is over. deal with it.

When 6 out of 10 people are using the same 3 mechs and the exact same tactics that means the game is broken.

Q ******* Q

[Shinikaru]

WHELP. the game was fun while it lasted. then the trolls found out about it, and do what trolls do.
I'm off to find the place the whiners don't demand the devs hold their hands for them so they can win easier. have fun girls.

[Zaptruder]

JJs nerfed heavily for nearly all uses now.

This is not the fix we needed. Try harder PGI. We'll take this as a temporary fix while you sift through the many viable suggestions for fixing the root cause of the problems with pop tarting (hint, it's not JJ).

[ssm]

Since patch I've dropped in my Jenners, Highlanders and Phract 3D. Poptarting in close range/over teammates to avoid firing into their backs/scout-tarting is still perfectly viable.

[SixBottles]

tried out the trial spider...

yeah the reticule shake is a bit extreme when JJ'ing, but ok when u drop down.
the screen shake didnt felt so BAD either... maybe because it was a light mech... but still, the shake was much needed.

Edited by SixBottles, 04 June 2013 - 11:24 AM.

[Kdogg788]

Shinikaru, on 04 June 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

So instead of me assisting you when you run in front of me clock-blocking my AC-20, by jumping for some air so I can hit the enemy you just blocked me from, I shall simply fire thru you. That's my solution to your apparently long awaited "solution"

If that's your solution for loss of JJ aiming accuracy, then that's straight up sad. How about rethinking your route finding and come back when you can man up to the community calling you on your BS.

-k

[NeoFighter]

Shinikaru, on 04 June 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

I do not "pop-tart" ever as the SOLE means of play, but You chose to listen to a minority of whiners and ensured that in addition to solving the total non-issue of "pop tarting";

I can now no longer do lots of core battle things:

1. USE JUMPJETS AS A MEANS OF SIGHTING OVER RIDGE LINES (TOO MUCH SHAKE).

2. USE JUMP JETS AS A MEANS OF FIRING OVER A TEAMMATE IN A CLOSE IN BRAWL.

3.USE JUMP JETS AS A VIABLE WAY TO LINE UP AN AC/20 TO A MECH IM FIGHTING WHEN WE ARE FIGHTING ON A SLOPE (COMMON) AND IT IS ABOVE ME.

Those are just 3 basic ones that pop into my head and are totally drastically noticeable after ONE game post patch.

The sad thing is this only breaks your combat even more as far as balance goes for any mech with a jump-jet. Other than being able to pop over a ridge slightly faster than walking there is no point to having JJ's now.
Why even bother having Classes or variants, your making mech combat so vanilla there is little point to playing.

ahhhh....no more mech4 meta for you...finaly this is starting to feel like a real mechwarrior, STARTING key word here

Edited by NeoFighter, 04 June 2013 - 11:33 AM.

[Mick Mars]

Shinikaru, on 04 June 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

WHELP. the game was fun while it lasted. then the trolls found out about it, and do what trolls do.
I'm off to find the place the whiners don't demand the devs hold their hands for them so they can win easier. have fun girls.

In other words:" Devs nerf'd me crutch! I never had any MechWarrior skill to begin with and now they want me to actually play?!!??!?! Back to COD for me!!"

[Acid Phase]

As good as this thread sounds, I forsee another issue. Thanks to no heat penalties, PPC boats are still lingering.

Edited by Acid Phase, 04 June 2013 - 11:24 AM.

[SixBottles]

Shinikaru, on 04 June 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

This game WAS good combat wise. Then the devs started listening to all the whiners and we get things like this retardation.

i dont know what game u played. it was certainly NOT MWO.

poptarding has been addressed... next is ppc boating. i can feel your terror >:]

[Damocles69]

JUSTICE!!!!!! Sweet, gloriuose justice!

[Mister Blastman]

Shinikaru, on 04 June 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

WHELP. the game was fun while it lasted. then the trolls found out about it, and do what trolls do.
I'm off to find the place the whiners don't demand the devs hold their hands for them so they can win easier. have fun girls.

k, thx, bai

[topgun505]

True. But I would rather they tackle one major issue at a time. When you try to tackle multiple at once is when things turn into a hot mess.

The boating issue will be addressed next. I can hear the screams of the PPC-boaters already.

"I feel a disturbance in the force..."

Acid Phase, on 04 June 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

As good as this thread sounds, I forsee another issue. Thanks to no heat penalties, PPC boats are still lingering.

[BlackDrakon]

Shinikaru, on 04 June 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

WHELP. the game was fun while it lasted. then the trolls found out about it, and do what trolls do.
I'm off to find the place the whiners don't demand the devs hold their hands for them so they can win easier. have fun girls.

Cya! have fun!! IN ANOTHER GAME!! Im so happy about the first QQ I read, so so happy!!

Now 8 mans will have to play with strategy and not with 8 HGN-732 with ppc's or a mix with CTF-3D's, GREAT JOB DEVS!!

[Dephylr]

mhm, feed me your sweet delicious tears. This is much closer to how jumpjets should be used and i relish all the qq.

[BlackDrakon]

BTW, did they fix SRM's? im at work right now...sighs....

[GingerBang]

topgun505, on 04 June 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

When 50%+ of a team composition is basing their build off a particular tactic ... In this case poptarting ... You most definitely have a balance issue.

And that's all I've been seeing game after game after game for weeks now. Pugging, 4-mans and 8-mans alike.

I'm able to hit a commando sized target at 300m so close range shouldn't be impacted all that much, it just makes long range shots difficult.

I fully expected some QQ. Will be interesting to see how much there is.

That speaks more to bad weapon design than anything to do with jump jets. This is a bandaid on stop of a staph-infection. Pointless.

[Airborne Thunder]

I don't JJ to poptart but I do JJ in my Catapult when an assault gets to close to try not to get hit and to defend myself. Thanks for making the game even less fun. Keep up the good work, I spend too much money here anyways. Keep nerfing away until every mech is the same and none have any advantage over any other mech. Why don’t you guys just save yourselves the headaches and make all mechs mediums and give us all 1 medium laser. Would that be fair enough? This is the most frustrating game I have played. Every patch makes the game worse than the last. Amazing.

Edited by Airborne Thunder, 04 June 2013 - 11:51 AM.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

Shinikaru, on 04 June 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

WHELP. the game was fun while it lasted. then the trolls found out about it, and do what trolls do.
I'm off to find the place the whiners don't demand the devs hold their hands for them so they can win easier. have fun girls.

Later scrub, you won't be missed