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Shinikaru, on 04 June 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

WHELP. the game was fun while it lasted. then the trolls found out about it, and do what trolls do.
I'm off to find the place the whiners don't demand the devs hold their hands for them so they can win easier. have fun girls.

yes adding in shake and complexity is most certainly hand holding brought to it's most extreme.

Zaptruder, on 04 June 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:

JJs nerfed heavily for nearly all uses now.

This is not the fix we needed. Try harder PGI. We'll take this as a temporary fix while you sift through the many viable suggestions for fixing the root cause of the problems with pop tarting (hint, it's not JJ).

this was a change that should have happened long before we even had mechs that could poptart.


i will have to see for myself, but as long as the effects aren't headache inducing i think this will be a good change. my catapult C4 with SRM will certainly provide a good solid test.

[Carrion Hound]

*cues music, lights cigarette, pulls out beer, and begins eating popcorn* This is better than TV.

(I use JJ when I brawl, I welcome the challenge, might actually improve my aim)

[Airborne Thunder]

To all you Cartmans out there trolling about licking tears obviously you don't care because you don't use JJ. That’s fine but this game should have different game play options for different play styles. Not all of us think a good game is about brawling it out in Stalkers. Sometimes its about scouting, sniping, capping and strategy. I use a lot of different mechs and now some of them just plane suk. Wait until they destroy something that makes the game fun for you. If you like it, the nerf will come.

[Tyler Durden]

I just played a game and I see nothing wrong with JJ shake. It's about time you get your +3 modifier for jumping.

[Monky]

Jumpjetting is practically the way it was before, all you have to do is wait -one- second more before releasing jumpjet.

[Bobdolemite]

JSparrowist, on 04 June 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

I think the intent of JJs were to traverse terrain. You meta abusing trolls turned it into an absurd tactic that plagued the game for far to long. Your tears are delicious!

Look its a troll party PGI all the people who do nothing but complain are happy. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE! In fact ill bet people are logging the forums just to troll. This isnt a sign of things done right mind you because these people are incapable of doing anything but crying.

[Felbombling]

Bobdolemite, on 04 June 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

Really PGI? Did you even test this, it totally borks any hope of a mech using JJ for anything other than jumping over an obstacle (even then you cant see where you are going) When you heard all the people crying about how bad JJ was you should have checked their diapers first because they are definitely full of ****.

Oddly enough, that is exactly what jump jets are meant for... traversing difficult terrain. The fact that weapons were easier to aim while jumping over moving or standing still didn't clue you in that they might get a nerf in the future? I think PGI should check your head, because it sounds to me as though it is full of ****.

[JSparrowist]

I find it absolutely hilarious that the poptarding crowd claimed that everyone who had a problem with their absurd tactic was a noob and needed to learn to adapt.. well, my dear trolls, its your turn to adapt.

[LordBraxton]

All this does it make the 6PPC stalker seem that much more broken

JJs were a problem I dont mind the shake

but PPCs are still broken as ****

[Ragnar Darkmane]

Airborne Thunder, on 04 June 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

To all you Cartmans out there trolling about licking tears obviously you don't care because you don't use JJ. That’s fine but this game should have different game play options for different play styles. Not all of us think a good game is about brawling it out in Stalkers. Sometimes its about scouting, sniping, capping and strategy. I use a lot of different mechs and now some of them just plane suk. Wait until they destroy something that makes the game fun for you. If you like it, the nerf will come.

If your mechs suck because you can't play jump tard in them anymore, I fear it's not your mechs that suck...

[WaddeHaddeDudeda]

Haha.
Now in midair my crosshair (and cockpit) is shaking whilst it stays calm when I'm running 140+ kph downhill?

Serious simulation is serious.
I see CoD having better solutions.

[Dawnstealer]

Weren't jumpjets supposed to be used for..........

(wait for it)

....jumping?

Not sniping: jumping. Like...to get ON things by JUMPING on them. Or to get....OVER....things by JUMPING over them.

Excellent fix, PGI - seriously: the jump-sniping was just getting goofy.

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Airborne Thunder, on 04 June 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

To all you Cartmans out there trolling about licking tears obviously you don't care because you don't use JJ. That’s fine but this game should have different game play options for different play styles. Not all of us think a good game is about brawling it out in Stalkers. Sometimes its about scouting, sniping, capping and strategy. I use a lot of different mechs and now some of them just plane suk. Wait until they destroy something that makes the game fun for you. If you like it, the nerf will come.

i do and i brawl with my catapult. 4x SRM6, 4 jump jets, and an XL315 engine. the threw down some jump jet shake realism, HSR for missiles, and a mild buff for LRM. this is as close to christmas as i have ever seen a patch from any game get. if they had thrown in some repair and rearm i would have been questioning whether i was awake or not.

but, back to your original point. i primarily run a brawler catapult with jump jets, AND i approve this change.

[Sir Wulfrick]

This last update has been most amusing. VAST amounts of complaints from prior poptarts (you'll have precisely zero sympathy from me) and yet those who're genuinely skilled at aiming have not complained. Vary happy with the changes. Frankly, if someone is so skilled that they can still hit me then fair enough - I deserve to get hit. Certain players who used poptarting as easy mode will now have significantly more difficult time.

[SixBottles]

ok now i'm waiting for a thread without QQ'ing little boys and "i luv your tears" babys


well like i said... its a step in the right direction... BUT again like the LRM buff, its too much too fast.

the reticule shake even for lights is a bit too much... combined with the random spread (a big mistake in every game) and screenshaking... it just feels too punishing.
but well... we'll see that after a few days when everyone cools off a bit and people played more matches...


my prediction is a hotfix that will rollback or nerf a few of the changes. i really dont understand why PGI dont do these changes one step at a time...

Edited by SixBottles, 04 June 2013 - 12:18 PM.

[Soy]

JSparrowist, on 04 June 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

I find it absolutely hilarious that the poptarding crowd claimed that everyone who had a problem with their absurd tactic was a noob and needed to learn to adapt.. well, my dear trolls, its your turn to adapt.

Release JJ + armlock

oh that was ******* hard bro

[BlackDrakon]

Airborne Thunder, on 04 June 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

To all you Cartmans out there trolling about licking tears obviously you don't care because you don't use JJ. That’s fine but this game should have different game play options for different play styles. Not all of us think a good game is about brawling it out in Stalkers. Sometimes its about scouting, sniping, capping and strategy. I use a lot of different mechs and now some of them just plane suk. Wait until they destroy something that makes the game fun for you. If you like it, the nerf will come.

Things I like that got destroyed:

SRM's.......check
LBX-10.....check
LRM's........check

This got me to:

Not been able to skirmish
Not been able to brawl
Not been able to LRM Fire Support

So, they destroy poptarting, and you are bitching about it?, plz let me LOL at you for a while.

<S>

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WaddeHaddeDudeda, on 04 June 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

Haha.
Now in midair my crosshair (and cockpit) is shaking whilst it stays calm when I'm running 140+ kph downhill?

Serious simulation is serious.
I see CoD having better solutions.

EXCEPT when running across the ground any small bump screws your aim. when i am in my jenner (it has a full compliment of jump jets too) ROCKS ARE THE ENEMY.

[IceSerpent]

w0rm, on 04 June 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

The only people affected by the shake are: Lights and people who get easily seasick

Funny thing is that this "dancing crosshairs" thingy gave me a serious headache in just 2 testing grounds drops and I don't get seasick at all. IMHO, whoever came up with the idea of this particular visual implementation needs to be introduced to a clue-by-four, repeatedly.

On a side note, the "fix" doesn't affect the actual jump sniping at all (aside from making people physically sick, that is), it does make life difficult for jumping light mechs though.

[topgun505]

So you're saying you have to be a poptart to snipe??

I guess I must be doing something really off with dual gauss Jager with its 2.6 kdr

Airborne Thunder, on 04 June 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

To all you Cartmans out there trolling about licking tears obviously you don't care because you don't use JJ. That’s fine but this game should have different game play options for different play styles. Not all of us think a good game is about brawling it out in Stalkers. Sometimes its about scouting, sniping, capping and strategy. I use a lot of different mechs and now some of them just plane suk. Wait until they destroy something that makes the game fun for you. If you like it, the nerf will come.