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#1 Der Hesse

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:45 PM

I took out my AC 40 Jaeger for some Matches after a break of some weeks and noticed, that i did miss about half of my shots that i thought wouldnt have missed before my break.

First Thing i noticed wer some strange Close-range-shots at light mechs. I did miss them with both bullets while my crosshair was exactly at them, even when they were standing still. The Bullets seemed to pass them on both sides. I first thought that i might just not have noticed this behavior before and went on with my matches.

But then there were some shots where im absolutely sure that they did never happen to me before. Best example was a Stalker at 150-180m away. He was overheated and shutdown so that i got enough time to aim accurately at his Cockpit. Guess what? One Bullet passed him to the right side, one to the left side. I did not just miss the Cockpit, i did miss the whole f... Assaultmech. It was as i was looking asquint.

Over all i noticed a huge amount of not registering Hits like before HSR, bullets hitting different Locations of a mech where they should have hit the same or at least adjacent locations and even the above mentioned shots where the bullets behaved like they were shot from different angles.

All the shots were from a Firebrand with 2 AC20. All shots were triggered with one weapongroup.

My KD is now down to 2.3, while it was like 5.x for my Jaegermech DD with an AC 40 Setup.

Any ideas on what is Happening or am i just getting poor at aiming and didnt notice all These things happen before?

#2 SweetWarmIce

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:53 PM

There's always been issues with hit registration but HSR has made it more severe. To the point that hits against stationary targets don't even register.

#3 Monkeystador

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:04 AM

Show proof please.

#4 OpCentar

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:04 AM

View PostDer Hesse, on 12 June 2013 - 11:45 PM, said:

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First Thing i noticed wer some strange Close-range-shots at light mechs. I did miss them with both bullets while my crosshair was exactly at them, even when they were standing still. The Bullets seemed to pass them on both sides.
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Best example was a Stalker at 150-180m away. He was overheated and shutdown so that i got enough time to aim accurately at his Cockpit. Guess what? One Bullet passed him to the right side, one to the left side. I did not just miss the Cockpit, i did miss the whole f... Assaultmech. It was as i was looking asquint.
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This is an old bug, sometimes arm mounted weapons tend to converge way closer than where your crosshair is aimed.

That makes the weapons shot in a X pattern missing your target, exactly like you described - one shot to the left and the other to the right.

It was way evident before HSR for ballistics but it still happens from time to time.

Edited by OpCentar, 13 June 2013 - 12:10 AM.


#5 Der Hesse

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:10 AM

Thank you OpCentar. Didnt ever notice it up until now. I already thought theres something wrong with my eyes when i saw that. ^^

The remaining Problems could be from my high Ping. Maybe my Connection is not as stable as before so HSR cant do its Job as good as before. Had this Problem some months before. Will check that later.
Couldnt just connect that other Problem to this and thought there must be a relation on these issues.

#6 OneEyed Jack

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:11 AM

Yeah, double Gauss on my Ilya, I've watched them cross between me and the target, then miss on either side, at ranges of less than 50m. It'll really p*ss a guy off when it makes you miss a perfect shot for reasons completely beyond your control. Can't say I've seen any of this behavior recently, though.

#7 Corvus Antaka

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:13 AM

netcode problem. i had a dual ac 20 jagger hit my spider 3 times, and 2 of those hits did not register on my mech even though my mech shook as if they did hit me.

lol?

Edited by Colonel Pada Vinson, 13 June 2013 - 03:13 AM.


#8 Chunkylad

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:14 AM

View PostSweetWarmIce, on 12 June 2013 - 11:53 PM, said:

There's always been issues with hit registration but HSR has made it more severe. To the point that hits against stationary targets don't even register.

Glad I am not the only one with this problem.... preferred the old lag shield ravens to this current hit registration, at least you could predict where they would be and have the shot register vs shooting them center torso and them just shrugging it off 3 or 4 shots in a row.

#9 El Bandito

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:14 AM

It is bugged with UAC5 too. I pumped at least 21 rounds into a Spider at close range and the damage report showed that I did only 25 damage total--which is BS.

#10 SgtKinCaiD

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:15 AM

There is actualy a problem with ping and hit registration see Patch Feedback section.

#11 PanzerMagier

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:44 AM

yea there's something fuzzy going with HSR and the netcode. My shots are occasionally missing for some odd reason. Even if I hit someone dead on.
There was a time before missile HSR that it was working perfectly.
Though this isn't all done to nerf your duel ac20 jager, you're not that special...

I suspect with the crappy system of boating + heat they will nerf your duel ac20 nonsense for real...

#12 Cervantes88

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:16 AM

As Mista would say :

N***a did I just catch you complainin' about your one click cheese dual AC20 build ?

#13 Glythe

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:42 AM

I played my Jager for the challenge yesterday and I have to say about 25 shots total were "dead on hits" that missed. It felt like shooting at lights before the rewind change (even though many of these shots were on assaults/heavies).

Just want to say that this is a huge issue and needs fixing.

#14 Mechteric

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:46 AM

its not just AC's, many weapons are not hitting when they should in the last couple weeks or so. Even lasers aren't fully registering, case in point this duel I had in a jenner versus a spider where my 6 medium lasers were taking forever to strip that armor off. I really wish I had recorded it so you could see that my aim was mostly spot on, but the damage just wasn't representing that at all.





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