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[Hound of War]

Victor 9B:
Gauss
2XMg
ErPPC
Ml
2XSRM4
4JJ
Full Armor-0.5t
325xl

With elite tweaks and the 2xbasic a fun mech.

[Elyam]

All below with 320XL, DHS, Endo

9S
AC/20 (28) (or Gauss (30)), 2 LLAS, SRM6+SRM4 (200), 4 JJ, 480 armor
LB 10-X (30), AC/5 (60), 2 LLAS, SRM6+SRM4 (200), (no jets), 494 armor

9K
LB 10-X (30), 2 ERPPC (chained), 1 MPLAS, 2 SSRM2 (100), BAP, 6 JJ, 480 armor
1 UAC/5 (100), 2 LPLAS (chained), LRM15 (360), 6 JJ, 464 armor


I can always rely on the 1st 9S build above, but each of these others have proved very workable.

I had tried the 360XL, and the extra response and maneuver speed is excellent, but in the end I missed the weapons configurations I was able to pull off with the 320. And sometimes I've found that the higher speeds get me in trouble with too deep a penetration behind enemy lines (a weakness of my experimentive nature). Of course, now I miss the speed...

6 JJ on the K is a noticeable advantage for getting around terrain. For solely this reason I tend toward the K unless needing the heavier AC and missile configurations of the S. I've considered going back to standard internal structure on the K for doing more high-heat loadouts (requiring more sinks). Fitting all tonnage in when Endo is present is a tighter fit on the K than any mech I've used (since I'm not using huge engines that could hold extra sinks and the 6 JJ take up their space).

Edited by Elyam, 23 July 2013 - 08:47 AM.

[Hound of War]

Elyam, on 23 July 2013 - 08:39 AM, said:

All below with 320XL, DHS, Endo

9S
AC/20 (28) (or Gauss (30)), 2 LLAS, SRM6+SRM4 (200), 4 JJ, 480 armor
LB 10-X (30), AC/5 (60), 2 LLAS, SRM6+SRM4 (200), (no jets), 494 armor

9K
LB 10-X (30), 2 ERPPC (chained), 1 MPLAS, 2 SSRM2 (100), BAP, 6 JJ, 480 armor
1 UAC/5 (100), 2 LPLAS (chained), LRM15 (360), 6 JJ, 464 armor


I can always rely on the 1st 9S build above, but each of these others have proved very workable.

I had tried the 360XL, and the extra response and maneuver speed is excellent, but in the end I missed the weapons configurations I was able to pull off with the 320. And sometimes I've found that the higher speeds get me in trouble with too deep a penetration behind enemy lines (a weakness of my experimentive nature). Of course, now I miss the speed...

6 JJ on the K is a noticeable advantage for getting around terrain. For solely this reason I tend toward the K unless needing the heavier AC and missile configurations of the S. I've considered going back to standard internal structure on the K for doing more high-heat loadouts (requiring more sinks). Fitting all tonnage in when Endo is present is a tighter fit on the K than any mech I've used (since I'm not using huge engines that could hold extra sinks and the 6 JJ take up their space).

My reason from going to the 325 ( from a 350 ), I was running with meds,and some hvys only I was the one getting shot at
that and I must just be too old to pilot fast mechs

[ArmandTulsen]

Elyam, on 23 July 2013 - 08:39 AM, said:

All below with 320XL, DHS, Endo

9S
AC/20 (28) (or Gauss (30)), 2 LLAS, SRM6+SRM4 (200), 4 JJ, 480 armor
LB 10-X (30), AC/5 (60), 2 LLAS, SRM6+SRM4 (200), (no jets), 494 armor

9K
LB 10-X (30), 2 ERPPC (chained), 1 MPLAS, 2 SSRM2 (100), BAP, 6 JJ, 480 armor
1 UAC/5 (100), 2 LPLAS (chained), LRM15 (360), 6 JJ, 464 armor


I can always rely on the 1st 9S build above, but each of these others have proved very workable.

I had tried the 360XL, and the extra response and maneuver speed is excellent, but in the end I missed the weapons configurations I was able to pull off with the 320. And sometimes I've found that the higher speeds get me in trouble with too deep a penetration behind enemy lines (a weakness of my experimentive nature). Of course, now I miss the speed...

6 JJ on the K is a noticeable advantage for getting around terrain. For solely this reason I tend toward the K unless needing the heavier AC and missile configurations of the S. I've considered going back to standard internal structure on the K for doing more high-heat loadouts (requiring more sinks). Fitting all tonnage in when Endo is present is a tighter fit on the K than any mech I've used (since I'm not using huge engines that could hold extra sinks and the 6 JJ take up their space).

Why not upgrade to the XL 325? Gives one extra DHS slot. Totally worth it.

Edited by ArmandTulsen, 23 July 2013 - 09:55 AM.

[Elyam]

This 320 was leftover from an earlier chassis - only reason its in use here. It takes me long periods to earn the C-bills necessary to get new mechs and XL engines (I don't get to play very often, and then only a few matches in a sitting). I will get a higher engine eventually. I'm an old hand, and am aware of HS fits in engine sizes, and while I tend to begin a design with the /25 engine sizes in mind, once all the loadouts start developing I might often pick a 'between' engine size if the weight hits a 'just right' spot.

Edited by Elyam, 23 July 2013 - 10:43 AM.

[Lynx7725]

A bit off topic, but since this is a Hail to the Victors! thread...

Here's a little fun game that I just came out of. Didn't notice it at the time, but the only survivors are Victors... ALL of the Victors that started the match survived (and happened to be on the same side). It was a hard fight, but I suppose that make us... Victorious?



To bring it back to topic, I was using a Victor 9S, 350XL, 4JJ, Gauss and 3 ASRM6s. Works well.

Edited by Lynx7725, 23 July 2013 - 12:30 PM.

[Elyam]

Was just thinking...the Victor can really be played as a poor man's Thor(Summoner), with a simple 3-weapon loadout as that omnimech commonly fields. such as ERPPC, LRM15, LB10X or LPLAS, UAC/5, SRM6 or LLAS, AC10, SRM6-A, . Try a few of those in the mechlab and check out the sustainable dps. It's quite good (which also reveals an underlying truth many of us have known about MWO for a while regarding masses of weapons vs a synergistic few ...something to be discussed elsewhere).

Edited by Elyam, 23 July 2013 - 01:58 PM.

[General Taskeen]

9K - Stock Build Challenge

Std 320
12 DHS
Endo-Steel
432 Armor
1 AC/10
1 SRM6
3 MPL

[Anjian]

I hammered out a number of 500 to 800dmg games last night, one of the two highest is done with my Dragon Slayer with 2 ERPPCs and a Gauss and the other with my 9S with 2 ERPPCs and an AC20. Just experimenting on Gauss vs. AC20, and results still make me undecided. Also using a 9B serving as an experimental platform where I do changes on AC20 vs Gauss, and PPCs vs. ERPPCs.

[Madwill]

ArmandTulsen, on 23 July 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

I don't use the 9B, but this looks good. If they improve the LB10-X AC, this could cause some serious damage.

i only used the lbx-10 at 250m or less in the same weapon group as the MG's. the sole purpose was to take out as many components as possible on already damaged mechs. it did rack up some damage though.

[ArmandTulsen]

I don't use the 9B, but recently saw player with the following loadout:

AC/2x3
SRM6
MLx2

He was tearing it up.

My guess is that the build was something like this:

VTR-9B

Edited by ArmandTulsen, 23 July 2013 - 10:44 PM.

[Madwill]

Madwill, on 21 July 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

i'd like to start a thread dedicated to just posting and sharing your victor loadouts so we don't have to go through the half dozen or so threads discussing the victor. please post your favorite configurations with or with out explanation.

my best 2 so far:
9-K
gauss w/ 4 tons RA
3 ML LA
SRM 6 LT w/ 2 tons

XL 350
494 armor
14 DHS
6 JJ's
BAP


9-B
AC 20 RA w/ 4 tons
2 ML LA
2 SRM4 LT w/ 2 tons
XL 370
494 armor
15DHS
4JJ's

after some more testing, i found that 2 LL work better with the gauss rifle than 3 ML. so, i now run 2 LL, 1 gauss rifle, 1 SRM 6 and 4 J's on my 9-K. it allows me to be more effective at mid ranges (300-500 m) even though i lose some mobility dropping to 4 JJ's. i'll use my 9-B for up close and personal.

Edited by Madwill, 27 July 2013 - 12:17 PM.

[Madwill]

here is a Dragon Slayer i've been having success with.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...77e50a6ca44eb5e

[Odin]

Dragonslayer

GAUSS
2LPL
Heat@1.6

[Lord Santa]

I must say, the Victor was such a pleasant surprise, I might even go as far as saying that it's the best mech in the game in terms of versatility. I don't think I've had as much fun as when I'm playing in a Victor

Well I'm currently running...

VTR-9K

1 x Gauss w/ 4 tons
1 x ERPPC
2 x ML
1 x SRM 4 w/ 1 ton
1 x AMS w/ 1 ton

4 JJ's

Engine: XL300

[Madwill]

Odin, on 10 August 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

Dragonslayer

GAUSS
2LPL
Heat@1.6

Odin, on 10 August 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

Dragonslayer

GAUSS
2LPL
Heat@1.6

i've run the exact same thing. it can be utterly brutal. played a conquest with it. the lance i was in took on 6 enemy mechs. we lost on points, but, out of the 8 kills on our team our lance accounted for 7, 3 of them being mine.

[Lightfoot]

I can't tell you because it would generate it's own Nerf forum. It's odd that I don't see it here. It uses a ST engine and no JJs so probably not what most players like about the VTR, but it takes a beating.

I actually got swarmed in it by 2 VTR's and a CPLT SRM at the end of a match. Took down the CPLT and one VTR, then my lancemates returned and chased off the last VTR, but my VTR was missing a leg, arm, side torso, most armor and only had one PPC left. I was surprised it survived all that incoming ordinance.

It's a VTR-DS, btw.

Edited by Lightfoot, 10 August 2013 - 09:14 AM.

[Zervziel]

I finally bought one after a ton of intenal debate. Went with the 9S, moved the ammo to the legs, downgraded it to a STD 300 and stuffed two PPCs in it's left arm. and upped it's armor. Holy crap! Even with the decreased engine, this thing handled well. In my first match, I managed to score two kills.

What I really like is unlike the Highlander, the Victor spreads it's heavy hitters out more. Sure they don't converge as well, but now both of my sides need to be taken off to disarm me.

Edited by Zervziel, 10 August 2013 - 11:25 AM.

[Duban]

I don't have a Victor. I just came for the Michigan reference. Go Blue!!!

[Appogee]

I tried a 3xAC2 and ERPPC build on a Victor-9B. I did a lot of damage but no kills.

I'm now trying Gauss and 2xERPPCs. Same old Same old.

I think I'll try AC20 and 2xPPC for a while.