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[BigBadVlad]

Considering moving from a 560SE,

See right now this GTX 660 available for $175 (after $15 mail in rebate, boo)
http://ca.pcpartpick...card-zt6090110m

Or this guy GTX 570 SC for $175 cash (no mail in rebate, yay)
http://www.evga.com/...012-P3-1572.pdf

Seems like the 660 might be the better buy but the 570 was the higher performer from its generation....?

http://www.tomshardw...od%5B5444%5D=on

http://www.anandtech...duct/518?vs=660

I don't know kind of wanted the 570 initially, don't have to deal with the mail in rebate but the 660 requires less power and appears to have a slight edge overall but appears the 570 has better performance in Crysis 2 anyway... not sure about anything based on CryEngine3.

Bear in mind also right now the only game i play on my pc is MWO. CPU is a Core i3 2120 for now but I have access to an i5 if i want to.

Figured I'd throw this out there and see what the community says....

[BigBadVlad]

ack, nevermind people, think i found my answer....

http://www.guru3d.co...enchmark,8.html

The 570SC comes with "only" 1.2GB of memory.
The 660 comes with 2GB and with Cry3 it looks like more memory, like 2GB, is recommended when you turn quality up.

[Chaos7]

Go for the 660Ti if can, its not much more expensive, but yields overall much better performance

[BigBadVlad]

Best price I see I will get locally on a 660Ti looks like $227.49 after a price beat and $20 mail in rebate. Roughly $50 more, originally I was eyeing the 760 at $259/$269. i'd likely spring for the 760 at that point. I thought I found a deal on the 570SC at $175 (Discontinued item) but looks like if I can get the 660 at same price, then 660 is the way to go.

[wolfmanjake]

You may not see a huge boost from 560SE to the 660 since you are running an i3 until they bring in DX11(more off loading to the GPU happens with DX11). You might get just as big a boost going to the i5 as you will bumping the video card up one generation.

I went from a GTS450 to a 660 and got a huge improvement but I am running an i7-930 + 12GB's in triple channel so the vid card was definitely the weakest link. (10-15 in a brawl 30 regularly on low to 35-45 in a brawl and 60 regularly on high mostly).

[Kazly]

First - memory isn't everything, processor speed is important as well (I haven't looked at either of your specs).

Just as a reference, my home computer is an i3, 4gb DDR? ram, yada yada....went from 12fps on low to about 50-60 on high when I bought this:

(48" wide screen LED, 1360x??? resolution)
http://www3.pny.com/...50_XLR8_2GB.pdf



I bougth this for my son's computer, same computer but i5 chip, and his frames went from about 12 to about 35-40 on high (note the 1gb ram):

(16" monitor, 1280x??? resolution)
http://www.bestbuy.c...3&skuId=5606912


Edit: I went with those cards for various reasons, but mainly I had a BB credit card

Edited by Kazly, 26 July 2013 - 12:41 PM.

[Chavette]

Both are bad choices as you should be goin AMD only.

[Blalok]

I've been considering upgrading my video card as well, but reading your experiences, I'm wondering how much the gpu is actually affecting things. I'm running a 3 year old i7-950, GTX260, with 6GB ram, and getting between 30 & 35fps in game, with only the occasional dip to the mid-20 range running on high graphics. I run the cpu at its rated frequency usually, but have run it underclocked by 5% without a hitch (I normally leave it dialed down outside of games to tame the roaring fan).

[wolfmanjake]

Blalok, on 26 July 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

I've been considering upgrading my video card as well, but reading your experiences, I'm wondering how much the gpu is actually affecting things. I'm running a 3 year old i7-950, GTX260, with 6GB ram, and getting between 30 & 35fps in game, with only the occasional dip to the mid-20 range running on high graphics. I run the cpu at its rated frequency usually, but have run it underclocked by 5% without a hitch (I normally leave it dialed down outside of games to tame the roaring fan).

I rarely dip below 40fps on high when I went to the 660 and average out around 50+ so you would see a decent increase. I don't think the GTX260 supports DX11 so that may cause you to want to upgrade if the DX11 switch turns out to be awesome.

Chavette, on 26 July 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

Both are bad choices as you should be goin AMD only.

{Noble MechWarrior} Alert. :-P

Edit: F-a-n-b-o-y is apparently auto fixed.

Edited by wolfmanjake, 26 July 2013 - 01:49 PM.

[Sniper09121986]

Chavette, on 26 July 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

Both are bad choices as you should be goin AMD only.

Was with AMD about 5 years ago, but when I found out about their, ahem, "support" of 3D rendering in Linux drivers I went to NVidia and never looked back. So are you implying they now support "the other" operating systems as well?

[Chavette]

wolfmanjake, on 26 July 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

{Noble MechWarrior} Alert. :-P

Edit: F-a-n-b-o-y is apparently auto fixed.

F-a-n-b-o-y calling me a F-a-n-b-o-y. o_O

Sniper09121986, on 26 July 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

Was with AMD about 5 years ago, but when I found out about their, ahem, "support" of 3D rendering in Linux drivers I went to NVidia and never looked back. So are you implying they now support "the other" operating systems as well?

I dont think the OP is rendering 3d in linux, what gave you that impression?


The only loser here is not me, or you, but OP if he is limiting his options. Being brand affiliated can cost money, and fps, sometimes both. Its not a logical way to go about your choices.

Edited by Chavette, 27 July 2013 - 01:53 AM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Upgrading your video card, from a 560 is a terrible choice.

Considering your still using a dual core I3 CPU.

Quad Core first will net you better more stable FPS rates in MWO.
Then consider GPU for bells and whistles after.

As to GPU's in and around that price range, you can get a HD 7870 for not much more, and that outperforms the 660.

Edited by DV McKenna, 27 July 2013 - 01:56 AM.

[Dragoon20005]

even with a powerful GPU if your CPU is weak

you might not get the performance you would want

like the above suggest swapping to a quad core like a i5-2500k

than you can consider a GPU like the GTX660Ti or better go for AMD's HD7870 GHz edition

[BigBadVlad]

So did a little looking and digging on the net this morning and you guys recommending to upgrade the i3 2120 instead of spending money going from the 560SE to a 660 or something in that range are right by what I've read.

http://www.tomshardw...ing,3451-8.html

"Thinking that this might have been an avoidable bottleneck caused by our detail settings, we dropped the preset to Low and re-tested the Phenom II X4 and Core i3-3220. Even then, we didn't see minimums any higher than 25 FPS. The issue wasn't fixed in the recent 1.2 patch, either."

Looks like a quad-core i5 is right around $200 as well... about the same i was going to spend on the 570SC/660. Go figure... The i5 I thought I could get is a 650, wrong socket
Think I'll wait for an i5 33XX price drop...

Thanks all for your comments, helped confirm not to spend money on a video upgrade.

Edited by BigBadVlad, 27 July 2013 - 11:50 AM.