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[INAPPROPRIATE NAME 0001]

you must have missed the part where they said this was never a feature that was coming and a poll was held where in 3,400 people minimum voted against its implementation against 100 voting in it's favor and the whole LoS-based radar thing and forced first person the only unique features that set this game apart from both other mechwarrior titles and other mech based games.

it's k but you should work on being that ******** bro it's not healthy

Jade Kitsune, on 20 August 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

I was going to buy phoenix this weekend...

I was going to pay for the $80 full phoenix pack.

Yet PGI had to screw it up, they had one job with 3rd person, and that was seperate que's.

And they fracked it up.

Well you know what, I'm going to laugh, I'm going to laugh SOO hard, when Piggy's taken out back and slaughtered.

don't lie **** you'll still pay money to give it up to the PIG it is your fetish after all

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Zuesacoatl, on 20 August 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Watch out, your ignorance is showing again. Really though, just because we do not act like you do, we are in lala land....lawl. How old are you? Really, again, I am just as disappointed as many other posters about the lack of queues, or even 3pv in general, the difference is, I do not rant and yell and curse about the sky that has started to fall.

I pay for my prem time because I enjoy this game. I bought myself, my oldest son, and my brother and his boy an overlord package because we enjoy this game. It is not perfect, but what game ever is. Grow up, and realize your voice is but 1 in a cacophony of others. Nothing but a drop in the bucket, if they lose you, I doubt they lose much in the way of revenue.

5000+ against 3rd person.

500 tops in favor of it being added.

Drop in the bucket you say?

[-Natural Selection-]

All bets "jettisoned" at 3:45 est win! Go see Big Boss in the back for payout

[Maethos]

Zuesacoatl, on 20 August 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

If it lacked people like you, I would love a community of 20, but your self importance just shows your ignorance. Those of us who post on these forums are but a small few, a very very small few, participants in this community. The grunts are met when you drop in game, and you get the GLHF or o7 salutes. That is the community I am part of, and proud of, you guys just disgust me. I am a paying customer, I have dropped a good deal into this game, and yet, I still understand that this is beta. It is a whole different concept than what you twitch gamers are used to. You get force fed COD titles with no input, and love them, but like any child with a new toy, you get a taste of being part of something other than a spray and pray and you want more and more until you pick up your ball and go home cause mean pgi did not listen to the loud majority. F2P titles are developed differently, go look at the many F2P MMOs out there that have been in beta for years, but people still pay for them.

Grow up, if you have input, than list it, do it the right way, if they do not heed it, well, to bad, try again, or champion another cause. Do not throw yourself on the floor and begin thrashing till you get your way. I am happy that PGi does not listen to the vocal minority, the small few that want competitive play over fun. If you notice, the grunts in the field are fairly happy, and those are the ones that will keep paying PGI to develop. You guys will be no loss to them.

Your right its beta and its less then a month away with any sense of community. That's because we have no in game communication(lobby,chat,voip) which at this point should have something working(c3 is not fully integrated and thus is a weak attempt). Plenty of known issues without any resolution insight and a ever expanding questioning of what is pgi's vision and direction for mwo. Right now its all over the place, less simulation and more arcade. Sure that may be fun at times but not what this paying customer paid for.

Feel free to run around with your community of 20 and good luck with that. I will hold out for a thriving and engaging community of knuckleheads having fun, but willing to forego the need for instant gratification that is the current ADHD approach to gaming.

For the record what game(s) are in beta for years and people are paying for them?

[Zuesacoatl]

Thirdstar, on 20 August 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

I'm just seeing how many ad homs you can fling my way. Are you hoping something will stick?

Read the real meat of the post you will see that the "ad homs" were just in question to your previous post, but if they hurt you, well re-evaluate posting in forums. Other wise, the real meat of my post still stands, I am angry about the duplicity of the situation, but I will not stoop to the levels shown in these forums. I still do enjoy the game, sunk a good chunk of change for mine and a few others enjoyment. it is just a sign that some in the community will leave, and others will stay. Look at wow, sure it has lost a few mil subscribers, but it is still over 7 mil strong, and that is after BC when the naysayers were crying that the sky is falling and WoW was dead, 6 years later and it has just barely dropped below first year levels. A total of 8 years, sad that I can say I played it for all 8 years. Point is, cry and scream all you want, ask for refunds, and it will be no loss to PGI. as long as they make it overall enjoyable for people like me and other grunts in the field, they will always have paying customers.

You can continue to flame, but my points are there. The community lately is embarrassing, and PGI has made a game that is enjoyable to a broader base than just us forum users. If you can not be constructive, Adapt, or quit are your only real choices.

[blinkin]

Monky, on 20 August 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

Ah ha ha

how naive

Here's the Dev post saying otherwise http://mwomercs.com/...e-those-queues/

WhiteRabbit, on 20 August 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

According to the command chair post (did you even read it?)...nope no seperation planned ...they are thinking about other solutions ..whatever those might be.

postponed does not mean that it is gone forever. the word postponed generally means the same thing as the word delayed. all they have said is that they are thinking about their next step before they take it.

ICEFANG13, on 20 August 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

No evidence to support that is happening, all evidence to the contrary actually.

no evidence? like no grayed out hardcore listings for all game modes? or like the command chair post that talks about the separate mode being postponed?

[CancersCincar]

Zuesacoatl, on 20 August 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

...You get force fed COD titles with no input, and love them...

Congrats, you have been as force fed as a COD gamer. PGI stated before that they were not going to implement 3rd person at all, and then they did it anyway, despite the fact that most of the people who are Founders (myself included) originally signed up with high hopes that it would help improve the game as a whole if there was no 3rd person. It's no secret that 3rd person provides more than a few advantages. I have no real issues with the fact that there will be 3rd person in the game, to be honest, but if it's going to be in the game, I would like it if there would be separate queues for 1st person and 3rd person, as well as a mixed for those who didn't care. PGI was going to do this, but then they decided that there wasn't really a huge advantage from 3rd person. It is beyond me how they came to this conclusion, as I am not aware of any announcements or posts stating what makes them think that it does not provide more benefits than 1st person. On its own, perhaps, but combined with 1st person, it is only going to be severely abused.

Zuesacoatl, on 20 August 2013 - 11:50 PM, said:

...it is just a sign that some in the community will leave, and others will stay. Look at wow, sure it has lost a few mil subscribers, but it is still over 7 mil strong, and that is after BC when the naysayers were crying that the sky is falling and WoW was dead, 6 years later and it has just barely dropped below first year levels...

It is a poor choice to compare MWO to WoW, considering one is still in beta and the other has been around for years. It should also be of note that Blizzard is a great deal more well known than PGI is (as far as I'm aware) and had created successful games prior to creating WoW, like the Warcraft games and Starcraft, as well as the Diablo games.

[Thirdstar]

Zuesacoatl, on 20 August 2013 - 11:50 PM, said:

You can continue to flame.

Remind me again which one of us is writing paragraphs worth of ad homs.

There's no meat there at all. Just a lot of rage. Maybe you should seek help for that.

[Zuesacoatl]

CancersCincar, on 21 August 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

Congrats, you have been as force fed as a COD gamer. PGI stated before that they were not going to implement 3rd person at all, and then they did it anyway, despite the fact that most of the people who are Founders (myself included) originally signed up with high hopes that it would help improve the game as a whole if there was no 3rd person. It's no secret that 3rd person provides more than a few advantages. I have no real issues with the fact that there will be 3rd person in the game, to be honest, but if it's going to be in the game, I would like it if there would be separate queues for 1st person and 3rd person, as well as a mixed for those who didn't care. PGI was going to do this, but then they decided that there wasn't really a huge advantage from 3rd person. It is beyond me how they came to this conclusion, as I am not aware of any announcements or posts stating what makes them think that it does not provide more benefits than 1st person. On its own, perhaps, but combined with 1st person, it is only going to be severely abused.


It is a poor choice to compare MWO to WoW, considering one is still in beta and the other has been around for years. It should also be of note that Blizzard is a great deal more well known than PGI is (as far as I'm aware) and had created successful games prior to creating WoW, like the Warcraft games and Starcraft, as well as the Diablo games.

I am not stating that I have not been force fed, my original point is that people are fed games all the time from big box developers. Why treat it different here. I know that they are not as communicative as they should be, but in the end, much like any other game IP or title out there, it is the developers that make the final calls, at least we are in slightly on what those calls might be. Do i like it, frak no, I have said that a few times already, but it is embarrassing seeing this community act like a bunch of 5 year olds as it has the past few patches. That is the point the OP is trying to make as well. You can be disgusted with the way the game is going, nothing wrong with that, I hate that they lied to us on numerous occasions now, but to act the way that many have acted is just....disgusting.

@Jade, though I am unsure of where you have your numbers from, the last time I heard about #savemwo, they were sitting at 700, but even if you are right, and 5000 people are complaining about this game, that is only about .5% of the total active accounts PGI has claimed as of late, give or take a few thousand to represent the possible variations. Even if they inflated those numbers by half, our voices on these forums only account for 1% of the total population. So yeah, the majority will follow what ever PGI gives them. I am all for voicing our discontent, but my point is to do it the right way. If you do not agree with PGI, than stop paying, get enough people to join you, even the full 1%, and you will get them to listen, but do not do it as others have done so far since the announcements. If I am wrong or self righteous as others have pointed out, well than, that is the bed I made and will sleep soundly within its cozy covers.

[Thirdstar]

Why is it disgusting to demand a good game and perhaps a few less lies?

And if you hate their lies so much, why did you give them 4 * 80 USD?

Edited by Thirdstar, 21 August 2013 - 01:55 AM.

[Deathlike]

blinkin, on 21 August 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

no evidence? like no grayed out hardcore listings for all game modes? or like the command chair post that talks about the separate mode being postponed?

I know this is in K-town, so it's mostly irrelevant. The hardcore "listings" were there during the PUBLIC TEST SERVER, of 2 weeks ago. This was never actually changed since them (outside of like 1 major 3PV bugfix).

Mystere, on 20 August 2013 - 10:58 PM, said:

What "insane 360s" and "Break Dancing Kintaro Reign of Epic Awesomness" are you folks yapping about?

Post videos or I ain't taking to anyone.

http://mwomercs.com/...-hidden-talent/

[whtwlf]

Thirdstar, on 21 August 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Why is it disgusting to demand a good game and perhaps a few less lies?

At the risk of sounding cliche, I don't reckon it's what's being asked for, it's how people are asking for it.

Edited by whtwlf, 21 August 2013 - 06:41 AM.

[Zephyr Charge]

Deathlike, on 20 August 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

In one month... the beta excuse goes away. I can wait a month for that excuse to die a horrible death.

and the game with it
unless the devs do a XBone and undo this ****

[Sam Slade]

Zuesacoatl, on 21 August 2013 - 01:25 AM, said:

I am not stating that I have not been force fed, my original point is that people are fed games all the time from big box developers. Why treat it different here.

Because said big box devs don't run a kickstarter program to gather the funds they need. Still waiting on an answer from PGI vis a vis their legal understanding/application of 'commercial transaction' as opposed to 'funding proposal'. COD kids are just that... kids. MWO targeted a bigger, richer fish by marketing to older gamers... treating them like children may prove to be a mistake.