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[Angel of Annihilation]

Normally I read all those posts about how bad this mech or that mech is and find that when I get around to testing these mechs out myself, they really aren't bad at all.

However, that has all changed. Currently with the broken Toros, the Kintaro IS that bad.

Oh my god this mech is all but unplayable right now. With the bugged CT it just dies in seconds.

My recommendation is to hold off on this mech until after the Sept 3rd patch and hopefully it fixes this mech so it has at least some survivability. If it doesn't really change up the hitboxes pretty drastically then avoid this mech like the plague.

As of right now, mine is going into storage for a couple weeks.

[Devil Fox]

Viktor Drake, on 22 August 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

My recommendation is to hold off on this mech until after the Sept 3rd patch and hopefully it fixes this mech so it has at least some survivability. If it doesn't really change up the hitboxes pretty drastically then avoid this mech like the plague.

That was the plan, after seeing how shocking the Golden Boy was on the field I decided I wouldn't buy a Kintaro at all unless they fixed the hitboxes. Since the Hitbox fix is coming 2 weeks after the CBill release, I'm going to hold off until they either announce what the September mech is, or whether they have actually fixed the hitbox of the Kintaro (looks good as a heavy hit and run brawler).

[Joey Tankblaster]

I cant support those statements.

Yes, its true. It has a huge CT and you die almost to a 100% getting CT-cored. However, playing trebs and highlanders is much the same. Dragon and Cat pilots would probably agree too.

I am running a KTO-18 with XL300, 2xLL and 5xSSRMs and its a decent mech. K/D ratio in 20 matches is 2.23. Average damage per match is 343, which is pretty good I think.

Just don't play it as a frontline mech but stay in the second line and rock cockpits with streaks or whatever missile type you have loaded. It's actually not a bad mech (might need some tweaks though) but you definitely must adjust your plastyle.

Just my two cents

[DarkDevilDancer]

I was bored and bought a 19, I expected to die alot but I've somehow I'm at a 2.0 kdr.

I certainly notice that ct gets hit more often, but having stuck in a 355 engine I'm fast enough to be able to move in and out of cover, and it seems to eat lights for breakfast.

[Roadbuster]

I'd love if mechs would at least have a real front and back torso. I can't count the times my mech takes rear armor damage from frontal hits and vice versa.
The Kintaro is just a bit worse than othe mechs.
I don't try running it as brawler. It's too fragile for that role. Either play it as long range supporter or light mech hunter.

[pulupulu]

My complain about KTO is that it barely can carry 1 or 2 tons more than 50 ton mechs running at similar speed. With not as desirable hard point (not enough energy).

It seems KTO is go near max speed or go home.

Other wise, I have mastered dragon and awesome. Another CT tower isn't a big deal to me.

KTO and YLW seem to be competing for the "best light hunter" title.

Edited by pulupulu, 23 August 2013 - 04:29 AM.

[John MatriX82]

I've bought too a KTO-20 just to see how it fared, the CT is clearly bugged, I've intaken like 15 points of damage when I had all the armor on (only 1 3xAC5 jag was on me) and my CT passed by 0 dmg to internals chewed away with like 3 or 4 internal HP (component was dark red). Shelved until 3rd of September.

[Khobai]

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Dragon and Cat pilots would probably agree too.

Yep. The dragon always gets hit in the CT, from every angle too. Its the main reason the Dragon is considered one of the worst mechs in the game.

[Jman5]

I was really looking forward to the Kintaro, but I'll just wait until the fix comes September 3rd.

[DegeneratePervert]

Not touching this thing for awhile, not after the Golden Boy fiasco. I love the way this mech looks, but the CT box is just way too much right now. Hopefully it'll become a very nasty light hunter when they change the boxes, or release SSRM-4s or 6s.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Some mechs deal with a large CT better than others. The Catapult and Dragon are ok despite that, but the Awesome is just terrible because of it.

I can see the Kintaro being kind of bad with a large CT just because it is a lighter mech than the ones above.

I think they could stand to do some hitbox tweaking on this mech.

[Spheroid]

I think the Kintaro-18 has promise. The CT is strong enough that you hunt and kill several lights before dying. The trick is to not accidently run into heavier line units. I try to head to the cap and kill their lights when the enemy sends fast units back.

Edited by Spheroid, 23 August 2013 - 08:35 AM.

[Ngamok]

Viktor Drake, on 22 August 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Normally I read all those posts about how bad this mech or that mech is and find that when I get around to testing these mechs out myself, they really aren't bad at all.

However, that has all changed. Currently with the broken Toros, the Kintaro IS that bad.

Oh my god this mech is all but unplayable right now. With the bugged CT it just dies in seconds.

My recommendation is to hold off on this mech until after the Sept 3rd patch and hopefully it fixes this mech so it has at least some survivability. If it doesn't really change up the hitboxes pretty drastically then avoid this mech like the plague.

As of right now, mine is going into storage for a couple weeks.

The only one I seem to be drawn to is the KTO-18. None of the other standard variants seems to call to me. So, I'll be skipping them since I don't want to buy 3 of them to get through the basics to master the 18. I'll just wait for the Shadow Hawk for my 55 tonner.

[Ngamok]

Khobai, on 23 August 2013 - 05:03 AM, said:

Yep. The dragon always gets hit in the CT, from every angle too. Its the main reason the Dragon is considered one of the worst mechs in the game.

It's a bad brawler for sure if you can't put a big XL in it. It's a GREAT sniper though with the high mount left torso hard point. My 1C (has 2 hard points there), 1N (or is it the 5N) and Flame all have a weapon in the LT that can shoot far until I need to brawl. In addition, my 1C also has an LRM10 to keep the long range pressure on.

[Training Instructor]

Until they fix the CT, it's a very dangerous mech to pilot if anyone decides to shoot at you.

It's not a free kill, as it can lay out some serious damage in the right hands, but its opponents have the unfair advantage of being able to spray fire at it and mostly be assured that they're going to hit CT.

[Angel of Annihilation]

I loaded up a 300XL, 2 ML, 4 SRM6s and 14 DHS to cool it. It is a similar loadout to my JagerMech JM6-A except that the JM6-A has 2 MGs and runs much slower. The difference in survivability is night and day however which is why I have shelved the KTO-18. Sure the Jag has a bit better CT armor (14 more armor) but my Jag build only runs 64 kph vs the KTO running at 88 kph so you would think that it would offset the armor difference.

In any case, despite the similar loadouts I average 335 damage per match in the JM6-A and only 108 damage per match in KTO-18 simply because the KTO gets cored so quickly. That is a pretty huge difference in performance for two mechs with very similar loadout and protection. Again keep in mind the KTO is much faster and more agile as well which should actually INCREASE its performance not make it worse.

No there is definately something wrong be it the CT hitboxes or maybe another bug with damage that we don't know about.

[Gizmoh]

I've been having a lot of success with the KTO-20, so far my only problem is that I always end up short of SRM ammo.
Been running it with a 300xl engine, 2LL, 3SRM6 with 2 tons of ammo, 1 ML and 13 DHS. It's fragile, it's hot, and it's fun xD

[tuffy963]

I have logged 250 games in three variants of the Kintaro. It is a death trap right now. Don't play it unless you like a serious challenge.

Assuming the fix is good, it will be a nasty mech with a working CT.

[GizmoGecko]

I strongly disagree.

My slightly refined build.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c94b646ace65107

And here's what I can do with that exact build (24/08/13 at 2pm GMT).



804 damage, 3 (WELL EARNED) kills and 7 assists with my LRM support to team mates, and having the highest match score of 108. I know it's unreliable posting only one match, but it's just an example to say that it isn't a bad 'mech.

At the end of the match however as I brawled with a Quickdraw and Highlander, my CT was but one machine gun bullet away from exploding. The upcoming fix is well needed, and I'm glad they have recognised it.

Yes the CT needs refinement but that's already coming in the first September patch, which will allow it to be a better SRM brawler, as currently I find it difficult to brawl against more than one 'mech. That aside, I haven't had any issue with it thus far!

And have you seen the LRM holes?! You can have as many as you like!

Edited by GizmoGecko, 24 August 2013 - 05:39 AM.

[Elyam]

I've been using an 18 and it's doing fine. Was last mech standing with high score in lava map last night. I'm sure the hit box issue is true, but primary survival is still about better piloting and gunnery. Let's see the hit box fixed, sure, but even now the Kintaro is a good mech. Ran that match with a 320 XL, LLAS, MLAS, 4 SSRM2, BAP. Intended to be an escort.