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[Death Weasel]

Now you have that reply all worked out.

[Wilhelm Fraek]

Lex420, on 06 October 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

As someone who got shot at by my own team when piloting the Boar's Head and the Protector... I agree.

People even saying: "Why would you give money to PGI?"

I would've liked to have replied something like: "I'm not giving them money. I'm paying so you can play this game for free"
Unfortunately, I'm not that clever.

Where do you people come up with the line that your the reason for this game being f2p lol self delusion at its finest

If every player in this game who hasnt paid a cent left how long do you think this game would last? There is alot more then micro T that keep a game a float

Edited by Wilhelm Fraek, 06 October 2013 - 06:07 PM.

[Alpha087]

Wilhelm Fraek, on 06 October 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Where do you people come up with the line that your the reason for this game being f2p lol self delusion at its finest

If every player in this game who hasnt paid a cent left how long do you think this game would last? There is alot more then micro T that keep a game a float

Well it's logic that's pretty easy to grasp. If nobody paid for anything then this game wouldn't exist.

It's more the logic of, "I hate that PGI isn't doing what I want them to so I'm going to take it out on the players that still enjoy this game. Because if I can't enjoy it, nobody can." that I don't understand. It's childish behavior at best.

Edited by Alpha087, 06 October 2013 - 06:24 PM.

[Wilhelm Fraek]

And the other side of it is this game has some of the most self rightous players ive seen just because they bought some mechs. I put money into planetside,wot,lol and other games didnt make me any better then the rest. out of a clan of 230 guys maybe 60 of us had put money into planetside so... we were the minority in our group.

Edited by Wilhelm Fraek, 06 October 2013 - 06:30 PM.

[Alpha087]

Wilhelm Fraek, on 06 October 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

And the other side of it is this game has some of the most self rightous players ive seen just because they bought some mechs. I put money into planetside,wot,lol and other games didnt make me any better then the rest. out of a clan of 230 guys maybe 60 of us had put money into planetside so... we were the minority in our group.

If not wanting to listen to someone else complaining and/or griefing me in-game because of what I decided to do with my own money makes a person self-righteous.

You want to be upset with PGI? There's nothing wrong with that, it's your right as a potential customer and player to be upset with them in fact.

But why is there the need to bring that down on the other players who don't feel the same way as you do?

[Wilhelm Fraek]

I havent brought anyone down nor have I to talked **** to someone who has bought mc what do i care? Now my question is how are people picking on you "phoenix buyers" how do they know? so unless you go into a match running your mouth I cant see how anyone is going to go out of their way to find out if you bought it then proceed to tk you.

If you brag about your Ferrari enough eventually someone will get tired of it. most people dont care.

Edited by Wilhelm Fraek, 06 October 2013 - 07:07 PM.

[stinkypuppy]

oh {Scrap} phoenix arguments are already happening in the topic about predicting these arguments! Oh the irony!

[BookWyrm]

It's basic sales, 10% of people will listen to your sales pitch. Of the ones that listened 10% will actually buy it. So let's say 1 out of every 100 ball park figure. It's not that the rest of the people don't matter or are worth any less. It's just that they're worth less to whomever is selling the product, because really, they're not buying it. You're not a customer if you contribute nothing, you're just browsing the store, but you'll still be greeted with a smile and asked if we can help you find anything in the hopes that you may eventually become a customer or encourage others to be. And there's no need to act as if we're haughty fat cats, most of us are working class people, the cost of entertainment for the evening is a far cry from a Ferrari. I don't get angry at people for saying they paid to see a movie that I didn't like if I pirated it.

Edited by BookWyrm, 06 October 2013 - 09:59 PM.

[Riptor]

MY prediction?

Locust will be unkillable because its smaller then a spider, faster then a spider and will most likely have completly screwed up hitboxes.... you know.. like every new mech that comes out!

Only in case of light mechs it works in their favour.

Shadowhawk. Not sure... could range in usefullness between centurion and trebutchet... not to say we wont see them in large quantities.

Thunderbolt? Solid heavy mech with alot of alpha strike potential, broad front might make it go the way of the awesome. All depends on how big the CT is.

Battlemaster. Does everything the atlas does... only better. Better hardpoint layout makes it harder to cripple the mech by only destroying one side torso. Heavy energy focus but also two ballistics in one arm... could make for another PPC + gauss build. But again the CT has to be the right size or the atlas wins over it. And ofcourse no ECM if i remember correctly. But still a very solid block of armor and firepower. Only weapons downisde is that it only has one missle hardpoint.

Wolverine.

Yeah... what the hell would you do with that? Ballistics in the arm, one energy hardpoint an one missle launcher. Not an alpha strike built and thus overshadowed by other medium mechs.

Griffon? Dead on arrival

It can be made completly useless by destroying its right side torso, and it has to expose said torso to shoot its enemies. With pinpoin accuracy in the game as it is you would either be a hardcore fan of this unseen variant or braindead. Ontop of that it has such a low amount of hardpoints i wonder what the heck you are suposed to do with it. There are light mechs that have more choice when it comes to weapons layout.

So yeah.. overall predictions:

Everything but the heavy and assault are bad to kinda meh... with the locust possibly breaking the game because no one will be able to hit the little ******...

Also i bet someone will try to fit a gauss on it XD

Alpha087, on 06 October 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

Well it's logic that's pretty easy to grasp. If nobody paid for anything then this game wouldn't exist.

It's more the logic of, "I hate that PGI isn't doing what I want them to so I'm going to take it out on the players that still enjoy this game. Because if I can't enjoy it, nobody can." that I don't understand. It's childish behavior at best.

PGI is not entitled to my money thought. Remember that they are giving me the option to play the game completly free.

Also you didnt adressed his argument that if the free players would all just quit like many many people on this forum seem to want the game would also die.

The truth is that a f2p game needs both sides of the medal to run, you can not have one without the other.

This is also exactly the problem whith most "f2p" titles (looking at you EA) that the publishers just dont get that free players are just as important for the health of their game then those that actually spend money on it.

Edited by Riptor, 07 October 2013 - 06:34 AM.

[Livewyr]

I predict mass crying over the 10 HS requirement in the locust. (with me being one of them.. lol)

[Ozric]

stinkypuppy, on 06 October 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

oh {Scrap} phoenix arguments are already happening in the topic about predicting these arguments! Oh the irony!

There's a fine line between irony and trollish intent. What side of line is this thread I wonder?

[Heffay]

Ozric, on 07 October 2013 - 06:45 AM, said:

There's a fine line between irony and trollish intent. What side of line is this thread I wonder?

Just because someone got trolled doesn't mean he was trolling.

[stinkypuppy]

here is a new little disclaimer because no one bothered to read that one i did on page one because apparently people cant read 2 pages before posting. this one will be more formal.

This topic is not attempting to make phoenix buyers look better than the rest nor is it a attempt for trolling. this is simply just for fun and for the point of guessing beforehand what the inevitable pointless complaints of people will be after the phoenix packs arrive whether they be from those who never bought phoenix or those who did (complaining about something like a hit-box issue). i did not mean to offend anyone and is only just for fun. when i say i am not trolling don't think i'm dead serious about this topic because this topic was just meant for people to openly bring up hypothesis on whats going to happen, also this isn't meant as a "LOL Phoenix Buyers lets point fun at those who didn't LOLOL" but is meant as a "hey community, what do you think a bunch of people from the annoying part of the community are going to do because of the phoenix packs?"

keep in mind if the packs do arrive and people are saying that these mechs are OP when they are not then the prediction is correct. however if they say that the mechs are OP and they ARE correct (broken hit-boxes that pick up hits 15% of the time) then the hypothesis is incorrect because their reason of complaints is justified because its a real issue. this topic is about predicting what people will do just to try and bash on the phoenix mechs even if what they are talking about is incorrect.

P.S. i might add this to the main message because this is my most well worded "no i'm not doing that" message.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Redshift2k5, on 06 October 2013 - 08:42 AM, said:

Every single weapon, mech*

*Except the Death Knell.

I have had the poor TDK called OP when I won a game capping in conquest - ran around the very outer edge of Terra Therma so they couldn't find me.

They may have been being stupid, but they still called it OP

[Hexenhammer]

What if its a none issue?

The people that hate it will complain.

The people that love 'em will defend.

The sale will extend past oct 15 so the wafflers have a chance to buy them.

P2W crowd. Blatantly obvious trolls angry they couldn't get it for free.

People targeting Phoenix mechs? Sounds like a lot of effort to be angry at something anyone can buy in a few months. It's like being angry at Founder mechs.

Give it a week or two and no one will care; unless its a technical issue like hit boxes.


So in short I'm not buying into the hype or hysteria the people want to drum up. You guys (trolls) can have an aneurism about it but I'm not. I'm gonna have fun and not look back.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

Wilhelm Fraek, on 06 October 2013 - 09:39 AM, said:

It was all consensual


I dont find it all that really its mostly the CT that get's me

W/L 1.07

K/D 1.70

although i am moving on to a CTF 1x

I consider 1x as worst CTF variant .

[Wilhelm Fraek]

JudgeDeathCZ, on 08 October 2013 - 08:25 PM, said:

I consider 1x as worst CTF variant .

yup I have yet to find my mech

So i sold everything and im just going to use the trial mechs until i have the cash to buy whatever takes my fancy, it will be a long grind but im hoping to hit the 20mil mark before I lose my grasp on reality lol

[ryoma]

I expect to see all the Phoenix mechs for a few days to a week.

After that people will realize the Locust, Shadowhawk, and the heavy mech are oversized.

Thus only Battlemasters remain and anyone who bought a smaller Phoenix pack will feel ashamed at wasting money.

[Alex Warden]

Lex420, on 06 October 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

I would've liked to have replied something like: "I'm not giving them money. I'm paying so you can play this game for free"
Unfortunately, I'm not that clever.

i did that many times... in most cases that shut them up quite quickly

[Alex Warden]

ryoma, on 08 October 2013 - 11:19 PM, said:

I expect to see all the Phoenix mechs for a few days to a week.

After that people will realize the Locust, Shadowhawk, and the heavy mech are oversized.

Thus only Battlemasters remain and anyone who bought a smaller Phoenix pack will feel ashamed at wasting money.

doubt it... maybe the thunderbolt due to its FAT torso, but since concept art != final mech, that might change... the locust seems to be of equal heights as the spider or commando, just a bit wider - judging from the screenshot. shadowhawk i can´t say