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[RjBass3]

Just saw this today. Gives me hope.

http://www.dailytech...rticle33496.htm

Rj

[Argann]

Why do you want mechs?

[RjBass3]

Why do you not want them?

[Burke IV]

When i seen this thread i knew it was going to be this. I was expecting big dog. Seems they have a new model, interesting find.

[Rushin Roulette]

Quote

WildCat Robot Ready to Run Free, Hunt Humans at up to 16 MPH

From the sound of that thing it will be like being hunted by Hells Angels on Vespas.

[Denolven]

The interesting things are not those full robots. The interesting things are the exoskeletons. The Japanese people are leading that field. Pobably because they are obsessed with the whole Gundam theme
Afaik they use some advanced prototypes to do heavy work in constzruction already, and to help disabled people do stuff again. Cause who wants this
http://www.asc-stapl.../Stapler20d.jpg

when you can have this and lift the frickin car yourself
http://cdn.zmescienc...hal-825x660.jpg


Oh and of course our american friends use their own variations to put heavier stuff on the shoulders of their soldiers. They can use a heavy MG in each hand already. But of course they are only going to use it for the good, just like they bombed the rest of the world almost without a break only for the good...

Edited by Denolven, 09 October 2013 - 12:57 AM.

[Burke IV]

hey look i found an atlas....



I also found this interesting, mostly because it is very low powered flight. There is very little inside the bird and i beleive comment about it being full of helium is false. They also made a penguin and a jellyfish.

[Burke IV]

For anybody that hasnt seen bigdog..



Watch the way it skids on the ice, drops to its knees to balance and picks itself up. Thats really cool.

[Burke IV]

ok last one

are you afraid yet?!

Edited by Burke IV, 09 October 2013 - 10:40 AM.

[Fut]

If you look at BD/DARPA's "Petman" and the Kurata Robot, real life Mechs don't seem to be that far off.

PETMAN: The section with Petman is a min or so into the video. Can't believe how agile and fluid it is.


Kurata Robot: Sure, it's a bit silly - but I still want one.

Argann, on 07 October 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

Why do you want mechs?

Because it's the vehicle of everyone's wildest dreams, that's why.
(see second Kurata vid)

Edited by Fut, 09 October 2013 - 11:58 AM.

[ArmageddonKnight]

The closest we could get with our technology to any form of anime like mechs is those of the old school anime Patlabor.

The story goes that bassical the mechs are called 'labors' since they were design for construction much like the current exoskeltons. But these were driven from the inside much like the mechs we all know from fantasy. A Patalbor was simply 'patrol labor' designed to combat other labors that were used for illegal activites. All they were in essence were a labor with a gun and enchanced armor. No flight, no special powers or insane manuverabilty. The most 'realistic' form of mech that i have seen portraid in an anime were those from Patlabor.

Those types of 'mechs/labor's we already have the technology to build. But they are just uneconomic and inpractical. Why use a giant mech to build when u have much cheaper options available. Why use a mech for battle when a tank is much more usefull.

There is no doubt that its possible, its just there is no reason to put the investment into them.

Edited by ArmageddonKnight, 09 October 2013 - 12:12 PM.

[Burke IV]

Techwin!





http://robotzeitgeis...bot-sentry.html

Its kinda old now but consider once they get one of those mounted on the back of a big dog. I dont want it walking down my street

[Burke IV]

Alot of BT technology at work

[dal10]

Rushin Roulette, on 08 October 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

From the sound of that thing it will be like being hunted by Hells Angels on Vespas.

this would be entertaining.

[Anjian]

In Gundam UC, the original Gundam series, not the offshoots, mechs were originally evolved from space suits. They are self contained environments intended for space, the large size and power were originally meant for the construction of space colonies. Hence the name, Mobile Suit. If you think about it, you will need mech like construction mobile suits to build space colonies.

Somehow, the suit got militarized, as with all instruments that were once concieved for peace, expediency causes them to take arms.

The original Gundam is quite similar to the Patlabor Ingram in concept. A mech with a gun. Just a bigger gun, lets say, a big rifle, instead of a handgun. At least on Earth, they originally didn't fly and were pretty much ground based.

But on space, its realistic enough to expect that in zero gravity, weight won't count, and they would virtually fly like fighter craft. If you take a Battlemech with jumpjets, like say a Highlander or a Victor, put it in space, you won't expect it to fight like a big stompy robot. Provided you have jumpjets angled and placed for maneuvering, a huge Battlemech would also fight Gundam like, and every weapon won't have a maximum range either, nothing that would shorten range like air and gravity would. Of course, ballistics will have more recoil, but maneuvering jets would have to be reprogrammed to counter that.

Edited by Anjian, 15 November 2013 - 06:45 PM.

[dal10]

until they run out or reaction mass.

[Anjian]

That will be true. However, after the initial boost that gets the mech to "battle speed", the remaining fuel will only be used for changes in velocity and direction, mainly for control, since the speed itself will be preserved. In fact, there is no need to use rocket boosters for the mech during launch, it should be shoot off using a magnetic catapult, railgun style. There should be enough reaction mass for the duration of the battle. Auxillary support mechs and spacecraft should pick up mechs that are spent out of fuel, reload projectile weapons, add more fuel, if necessary, and recover damaged and destroyed mechs, not to mention ejected pilots.

Edited by Anjian, 15 November 2013 - 08:20 PM.

[ArmageddonKnight]

Unfortunatly BT (MWO) JJ's dont use fuel, they use the air around them, meaning in space, they would not function.
When in a vacume the JJ's would use a fuel sorce but according to BT lore such a fuel sorce is extremly limited.

Edited by ArmageddonKnight, 17 November 2013 - 07:22 AM.

[dal10]

3025 can't come fast enough...

[Alaskan Nobody]

Anjian, on 15 November 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

In Gundam UC, the original Gundam series, not the offshoots, mechs were originally evolved from space suits. They are self contained environments intended for space, the large size and power were originally meant for the construction of space colonies. Hence the name, Mobile Suit. If you think about it, you will need mech like construction mobile suits to build space colonies.

Somehow, the suit got militarized, as with all instruments that were once concieved for peace, expediency causes them to take arms.

The original Gundam is quite similar to the Patlabor Ingram in concept. A mech with a gun. Just a bigger gun, lets say, a big rifle, instead of a handgun. At least on Earth, they originally didn't fly and were pretty much ground based.

But on space, its realistic enough to expect that in zero gravity, weight won't count, and they would virtually fly like fighter craft. If you take a Battlemech with jumpjets, like say a Highlander or a Victor, put it in space, you won't expect it to fight like a big stompy robot. Provided you have jumpjets angled and placed for maneuvering, a huge Battlemech would also fight Gundam like, and every weapon won't have a maximum range either, nothing that would shorten range like air and gravity would. Of course, ballistics will have more recoil, but maneuvering jets would have to be reprogrammed to counter that.

That was honestly the first thing I ever read that made Gundam look interesting.