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#81 KEYGETS

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:15 PM

If i get the content you promised in the next 4months i will buy something... if not i dont jump on the money train. Please PGI we need content like new gamemodes, the ui2.0, CW and more immersive stuff like glass in the cockpit, displays that really show some informations, weapons! If there is a lack of content these people will laugh at you and go away too other f2p games. I hope you know what you do....

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:18 PM

View PostZerstorer Stallin, on 13 December 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:



They are still resources that could be used to pay people who could work on the promised items from FOUNDERS packs yet to be delievered. I cant believe you don't understand basic economics.

In your own simple way you might be the smartest person here

#83 Chemie

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:18 PM

The good news, if there is any, is we should get a big push in command chair posts so they can push these packages....

Bad news is CW info will drop off again. (Actually, I expect they will hobble together Phase 1 in May to get the sales targets hit).

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:18 PM

View PostKEYGETS, on 13 December 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

If i get the content you promised in the next 4months i will buy something... if not i dont jump on the money train. Please PGI we need content like new gamemodes, the ui2.0, CW and more immersive stuff like glass in the cockpit, displays that really show some informations, weapons! If there is a lack of content these people will laugh at you and go away too other f2p games. I hope you know what you do....

I worry that they don't knwo what to do. They are constantly making decisions like this that just cause perception of their game and company to go down the drain

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:23 PM

Sick, this hole package even pushed me more out of mwo. Just disgusting prizes. 0 Money from me to pgi from now on :)

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:25 PM

The problem is that PGI thinks mechs ARE content (which they aren't)

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:26 PM

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:26 PM

View PostSandpit, on 13 December 2013 - 06:02 PM, said:

I agree, that's not MY point though. We don't even have clear cut answers on medallion and loyalty point questions that we bought in the PP sales. Those items that are going to "help" us in CW.......

THIS is what's wrong with PGI

Any idea what the warhorns will do? Are they in the fluff do you know? Think they will be a vanity item?

#89 Lucian Nostra

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:27 PM

View PostSable Dove, on 13 December 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

You make me sad. Buying something so grossly overpriced is what's causing PGI to ignore gameplay improvements in favour of heavily-monetized packages. As long as people pay quadruple the price of a retail game for content that will need months of grinding to be competitive, PGI will continue to put actual improvements on the backburner, because obviously making the game itself better doesn't yield nearly the rewards that just making new models does.

Please stop telling PGI to not bother with actually improving the game.


That's actually a bold faced lie. PGI's selling of mechs in packages is smart from a buisness standpoint but it stops nothing from improving on the game as it's a seperate department.

So no it doesn't put game improvement on the back-burner. Im not a fan of PGI's lack of UI 2.0 or CW but put the blame where it goes. Stuff like 3pv delays improvement.

#90 Zerstorer Stallin

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:30 PM

View PostEcliptor, on 13 December 2013 - 06:18 PM, said:

In your own simple way you might be the smartest person here

View PostEcliptor, on 13 December 2013 - 06:18 PM, said:

In your own simple way you might be the smartest person here


TY, but it is true that it basically boils down to resource allotment.

#91 Sandpit

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:31 PM

View PostEcliptor, on 13 December 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

Any idea what the warhorns will do? Are they in the fluff do you know? Think they will be a vanity item?

as usual we have no idea since PGI decides in their infinite wisdom to not give us detailed information on anything. They somehow feel vague announcements are better than detailed info

#92 Thunder Lips Express

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:31 PM

I will purchase the masakari package as soon as we get 2.0. I love this game and am happy to support it, but i have 60+ mechs, trying to scroll through my mechs to select one or the other is very frustrating.
What's with the signed digital art, does that mean they will mail me signed cgi print, or an email with a siggy on it? I hope it's the former if anything as my second idea is dumb.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:34 PM

View PostZerstorer Stallin, on 13 December 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

I noticed there is nothing about weapons and if they are merely skins or are they all carrying clan tech! So right now we know nothing except there are clan skinned mechs, which will be here in JUNE and they want ALOT of money for them.

1. Are clan meks going to be unlockable via CB's?
2 Are clan weapons going to be introduced?
3. Is there EVER going to be CW?
4. Has PGI given up totally and now the clan packages are Pay to Win?
5. Is there going to be a seperate battles? Maps? CW( given it every gets here).

Can anyone answer any of these question or will it be the old PGI bait and switch?



GIVE ME MY KITFOX AND WARHAMMER MISSILE TEABAG MACHINE!

#94 Sandpit

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:34 PM

View PostLucian Nostra, on 13 December 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:


That's actually a bold faced lie. PGI's selling of mechs in packages is smart from a buisness standpoint but it stops nothing from improving on the game as it's a seperate department.

So no it doesn't put game improvement on the back-burner. Im not a fan of PGI's lack of UI 2.0 or CW but put the blame where it goes. Stuff like 3pv delays improvement.

right or wrong that perception is becoming more popular among the player base. It doesn't matter if it's accurate or not. PGI has set themselves up for this perception. Vague information releases, 18 months of blown deadlines, no content other than new mechs, mech sales, and a couple of maps, complete silence on features the community feel are more important.

They did this to themselves. You can point fingers at players for being mad or jumping to conclusions but at this point that's the reality of the situation. You don't want situations like this? Disperse some information. This isn't CB anymore, you're a fully released game. Stop sneaking around, snickering to yourself about how "great" this new stuff is but for some reason feeling you can't disperse this "top secret" info to players who spend money on and support your product.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:35 PM

There was mention that they were going to take a different approach with Clan-Tech then from Table Top. But, w will have to see to be sure. However, with those prices, no thanks. There is very few early Clan Mechs I like (Mostly, just the Timber Wolf).

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:36 PM

View PostLucian Nostra, on 13 December 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:


That's actually a bold faced lie. PGI's selling of mechs in packages is smart from a buisness standpoint but it stops nothing from improving on the game as it's a seperate department.

So no it doesn't put game improvement on the back-burner. Im not a fan of PGI's lack of UI 2.0 or CW but put the blame where it goes. Stuff like 3pv delays improvement.


So that team that designs those packages and mechs work for free?!? No?!? Then its resources that could be applied to "purchase" other individuals with the ability to "help" get out the yet to be seen promises of YEARS past. Is that clear now?

View PostMoxVoid, on 13 December 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

GIVE ME MY KITFOX AND WARHAMMER MISSILE TEABAG MACHINE!

I see what you did there.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:38 PM

View PostCorbon Zackery, on 13 December 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:

Your looking at $740 dollars to be the pimp mack daddy of the clans. That just ridicules.

Hell of a lot cheaper than the Ferrari I'd like to buy, so I'll go with the pimp mech for now.

#98 Noth

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:39 PM

View PostZerstorer Stallin, on 13 December 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:


So that team that designs those packages and mechs work for free?!? No?!? Then its resources that could be applied to "purchase" other individuals with the ability to "help" get out the yet to be seen promises of YEARS past. Is that clear now?



You act like they weren't going to pay those people anyways. Since they were going to be paid anyways, no resources were taken away from other areas.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:42 PM

aright, first, **** those gold mechs, 500$ is just stupid at this point.

Second, not this time, PGI. I won't put another dime in the game until I see some progress done with the actual content AND NEW MECHS AND NEW MAPS ARE NOT CONTENT.

So, I'm gonna be very patient, wait that you do something correctly to make this game back into something fun (hint: balance, convergence, hardpoints, etc). Then, we'll talk.

#100 Sandpit

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:43 PM

View PostNoth, on 13 December 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:


You act like they weren't going to pay those people anyways. Since they were going to be paid anyways, no resources were taken away from other areas.

They could have cutback the size of that department to beef up another.

Again, perception. Right or wrong more and more players see it like this. It's their opinion and their opinion is what will determine when and where their money is spent. This is just a crappy way (typical PGI fashion) of handling another situation





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