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#101 D04S02B04

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:44 PM

Learn some Management Accounting and Value Chain Analysis regarding resource allocation. Developing in another department will always take up resources.

Then again, I've just proven your point. Pumping out more mechs = more cashflow therefore drop "maintenance expense" (fixing the game) which is very common corporate practice. File for chapter 11, keep the profits, start a new company, new name, fresh start.

Alternatively, they can decide to focus on long term return on investment by building up their "Intellectual Property" and still be around without a bad name isntead of focusing on short term unsustainable returns.

#102 Thunder Lips Express

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:44 PM

View PostZerstorer Stallin, on 13 December 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:


TY, but it is true that it basically boils down to resource allotment.

well they can't just lay off the artists and hire designers with that money, then lay off some designers and get back the same artists

#103 Zerstorer Stallin

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:45 PM

View PostEcliptor, on 13 December 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

well they can't just lay off the artists and hire designers with that money, then lay off some designers and get back the same artists


They arent going to have to lay off anyone if CW doesnt come to pass.

#104 zagibu

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:46 PM

View PostNoth, on 13 December 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:


You act like they weren't going to pay those people anyways. Since they were going to be paid anyways, no resources were taken away from other areas.


That's exactly his point. They are a company, they can fire people they don't need and hire people they need.

What he doesn't understand, is that from a short-sighted business perspective, they are doing really well. Why do hard stuff when you can do easy stuff and get almost the same amount of money?

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:48 PM

My favorite part is how the golden mechs are said to be limited in quantity, but the number of digital models they've got in reserve to sell isn't stated.

Hey when's Community Warfare?

#106 Zerstorer Stallin

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:48 PM

View Postzagibu, on 13 December 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:


That's exactly his point. They are a company, they can fire people they don't need and hire people they need.

What he doesn't understand, is that from a short-sighted business perspective, they are doing really well. Why do hard stuff when you can do easy stuff and get almost the same amount of money?

View Postzagibu, on 13 December 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:


That's exactly his point. They are a company, they can fire people they don't need and hire people they need.

What he doesn't understand, is that from a short-sighted business perspective, they are doing really well. Why do hard stuff when you can do easy stuff and get almost the same amount of money?

Oh I understand it, I just think its a bad idea.

#107 D04S02B04

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:48 PM

View PostEcliptor, on 13 December 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

well they can't just lay off the artists and hire designers with that money, then lay off some designers and get back the same artists


Yes you can. Or alternatively, you can have a real plan and not have to do any of that.

To be honest, if you took all the money that has been thrown at MWO and hire just freelance designers, graphic artists, programmers, subcontract out the servers and networking issues to Cloud (I don't care if it is Software/Infrastructure/Platform/Technology as a Service), you will get definitely design a much better game than keeping incompetent people on staff.

View Postzagibu, on 13 December 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:

That's exactly his point. They are a company, they can fire people they don't need and hire people they need.

What he doesn't understand, is that from a short-sighted business perspective, they are doing really well. Why do hard stuff when you can do easy stuff and get almost the same amount of money?


That's the plague of our modern economy. Businesses who are self-entitled.

#108 Dugra Dugrasson

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:48 PM

View PostMonkeyCheese, on 13 December 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

Well you set your own deadline now pgi. Better sort out UI2.0 and CW by June 17th or all hell is gonna break lose.

Only really interested in the lights and possibly the mediums and since your packages go 1light, 1L1M, 1L1M1H, 1L1M1H1A then 2L 1M 1H 1H instead of weight wise aka 2 lights in a package I think ill avoid the bonuses and just buy mechbays (If im still around in 6months that is)

But the money grab is silly when the game is in shambles.


It goes 1L-1M-1H-1A-2L-2M-2H-2A.

But, yes. I see your point. I for one would like to pick and choose which chassis I buy.

Edited by nodebate, 13 December 2013 - 06:49 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:53 PM

View PostD04S02B04, on 13 December 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:


Yes you can. Or alternatively, you can have a real plan and not have to do any of that.

To be honest, if you took all the money that has been thrown at MWO and hire just freelance designers, graphic artists, programmers, subcontract out the servers and networking issues to Cloud (I don't care if it is Software/Infrastructure/Platform/Technology as a Service), you will get definitely design a much better game than keeping incompetent people on staff.



That's the plague of our modern economy. Businesses who are self-entitled.

Honestly if there would have been another mecha game- pgi couldnt do that. They are the only good Mechgame developer atm. They just abuse it super harshly. I just feel poor for all the Mw community- who have been grown up with mw and who basically love mw

I dont care about mechs that much- if the hole money making gets disgusting (it is at the border to be that)

i ll just play another free to play title like i already do by playing war thunder which is 10x better than this game already. More content, cheaper prizes and developer doing great efforts to give the community even more content.

Edited by Aaron45, 13 December 2013 - 06:58 PM.


#110 Noth

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:55 PM

View PostD04S02B04, on 13 December 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:


To be honest, if you took all the money that has been thrown at MWO and hire just freelance designers, graphic artists, programmers, subcontract out the servers and networking issues to Cloud (I don't care if it is Software/Infrastructure/Platform/Technology as a Service), you will get definitely design a much better game than keeping incompetent people on staff.



This ultimately costs more. This is basically hiring contract employees which always costs more than using in house. It's something big companies can do quite often as they have the money to burn. A small company it is something that they really cannot afford.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:57 PM

Please delay Clan release...let us have a while with IS vs IS in community warfare.

#112 Galenit

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:00 PM

Balance doesnt matter,
we have only repeating deathmatches, in random constelations, with no real meaning,
if you win or lose doesnt matter ...

I hope some company will buy the great artwork and use it to build a great game.

#113 Sandpit

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:01 PM

Another thread turned into a circular argument about PGI doing the right or wrong thing the right or wrong way. It's a matter of perspective and perception. Right now many have the perception that PGI is making a cash grab without giving them the completed game and features they were promised 18 months ago.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:02 PM

View PostGalenit, on 13 December 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

Balance doesnt matter,
we have only repeating deathmatches, in random constelations, with no real meaning,
if you win or lose doesnt matter ...

I hope some company will buy the great artwork and use it to build a great game.

I hope so too.


View PostSandpit, on 13 December 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

Another thread turned into a circular argument about PGI doing the right or wrong thing the right or wrong way. It's a matter of perspective and perception. Right now many have the perception that PGI is making a cash grab without giving them the completed game and features they were promised 18 months ago.



Absolutely. Wheres even ui2? which has been promised 8 Months earlier. Honestly Pgi is just a bunch of incompetent ppl

Edited by Aaron45, 13 December 2013 - 07:03 PM.


#115 Eldyran

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:04 PM

$500 for a Timber Wolf, to be delivered in six months or so. Seems Legit.

I see Clan Sea Fox is alive and well. Who stole my Omni schematics?

#116 A banana in the tailpipe

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:05 PM

Where do I sign on the executive order to sterilize everyone throwing money at this grossly insane money grab?

#117 FupDup

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:08 PM

View Postlockwoodx, on 13 December 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

Where do I sign on the executive order to sterilize everyone throwing money at this grossly insane money grab?

Load up a Battlemaster like this: BLR-1G The Sterilizer

And then alpha-strike the first Clanner you see on your team right in the rear CT, or perhaps head if you can walk in front of him.

#118 Dalinor Frostreaver

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:15 PM

I do like seeing the new mechs, however like many others, I would like some info clarification on missing game features. I have spent a ton on this game, and I'm ok with that, but I do feel like a sucker at this point. No more money for pgi from me till they start delivering on promises. This is a fun game. I enjoy it a ton, but there are limits. Free to play mode till changes. Zap boom and such.

#119 Poppaukko

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:16 PM

View PostEldyran, on 13 December 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

$500 for a Timber Wolf, to be delivered in six months or so. Seems Legit.

I see Clan Sea Fox is alive and well. Who stole my Omni schematics?

*$210.

#120 Alekzander Smirnoff

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:18 PM

View Postlockwoodx, on 13 December 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

Where do I sign on the executive order to sterilize everyone throwing money at this grossly insane money grab?



At the dotted line below:

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Edited by Alekzander Smirnoff, 13 December 2013 - 07:19 PM.






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