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[Willard Phule]

So...this may not be the forum to put this, but it's the on I've got on speed dial...so, here we go.

How many of you don't like to be called a "noob?" A couple? A few?

Here's an easy way to avoid it.

STOP ACTING LIKE ONE!

Stop the negligent discharges in spawn...if you want to group your stuff or see how it operates on a specific map, take the time to use the training grounds. Learn how to lock your targets. Stop shooting your teammates in the back. Stop wandering off on your own. Use cover and concealment.

Thank you for your time. I need a beer.

[Clit Beastwood]

Willard Phule, on 06 March 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

So...this may not be the forum to put this, but it's the on I've got on speed dial...so, here we go.

How many of you don't like to be called a "noob?" A couple? A few?

Here's an easy way to avoid it.

STOP ACTING LIKE ONE!

Stop the negligent discharges in spawn...if you want to group your stuff or see how it operates on a specific map, take the time to use the training grounds. Learn how to lock your targets. Stop shooting your teammates in the back. Stop wandering off on your own. Use cover and concealment.

Thank you for your time. I need a beer.

This single thread will change how everyone plays the game, overnight! Good on you sir!

Edited by Fierostetz, 06 March 2014 - 04:32 PM.

[Firelizard]

Sadly, this wont help much. The ignorant learn from their mistakes, but the stupid ones... You cant fix stupid.

Edited by Firelizard, 06 March 2014 - 04:34 PM.

[Monkey Lover]

noob balance? or you just a forum noob hehe

[Twinkie D Lite]

nOObs are fine, we all started somewhere. Its just the stupid ones you cant fix.

[Elkfire]

Edited by Elkfire, 06 March 2014 - 06:05 PM.

[Mystere]

Willard Phule, on 06 March 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

So...this may not be the forum to put this, but it's the on I've got on speed dial...so, here we go.

How many of you don't like to be called a "noob?" A couple? A few?

Here's an easy way to avoid it.

STOP ACTING LIKE ONE!

Stop the negligent discharges in spawn...if you want to group your stuff or see how it operates on a specific map, take the time to use the training grounds. Learn how to lock your targets. Stop shooting your teammates in the back. Stop wandering off on your own. Use cover and concealment.

Thank you for your time. I need a beer.

Noob!

[Karl Streiger]

Hm - i can't suggest that training grounds is a good idea:
Training ground is only good for knowing the map, maybe to get a feeling about heat - but you can't learn to shoot

Its harder to hit a Mech in training grounds - because there the HSR convergence issues are (or at least were) still existent.
My terribad performance with AC 2 - was the reason i never used them in game - until some days ago...and believe it or not... its so much easier to hit a moving target in game as it is to hit a standing target while you are moving.

[Joseph Mallan]

Willard Phule, on 06 March 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

So...this may not be the forum to put this, but it's the on I've got on speed dial...so, here we go.

How many of you don't like to be called a "noob?" A couple? A few?

Here's an easy way to avoid it.

STOP ACTING LIKE ONE!

Stop the negligent discharges in spawn...if you want to group your stuff or see how it operates on a specific map, take the time to use the training grounds. Learn how to lock your targets. Stop shooting your teammates in the back. Stop wandering off on your own. Use cover and concealment.

Thank you for your time. I need a beer.

I prefer to use the the term Boot. It was a term used often in the Corps when discussing a new Marine to the Unit. Its a fighting game that is based off Military conflict in the future, so to me Boot fits...
...
...
Unintentional Pun!

[wwiiogre]

The way to help new players is to be on the voip channels that they find here. Comstar NA, NoGutsNoGalaxy, etc. Then you sit in the open dropships and let new players join you to form a group. Then you spend an hour or two talking with them, while you run them thru drop after drop.

Posting on the forum may help some. But, to really help a new player, it takes time and patience and the willingness to drop with them.

I try to get a few drops in with complete strangers that are new to ngng's ts3. Then if they ask I tell them about the merc corps I know that have good people in them. I also tell them about the ultra competitive groups as well. So they can have more information to make good choices.

Now, PGI, should have a community run new player development volunteer group with forum posts and even in game messages that appear to any player with less than 25 drops. Telling them where to find help, where on the forum to find the information they need. Telling them the merc corps or House factions that are volunteering to help new players.

Just in case you really wanted to help new players, and not just put lip service to it out of frustration cause you just watched yet another stalker 3f charge forward shooting LRM's at the mech 30 meters away and once again dying before doing more than 30 pts of damage. This is a tale repeated every single day in pug drops.

Chris

[Sandpit]

Willard Phule, on 06 March 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

So...this may not be the forum to put this, but it's the on I've got on speed dial...so, here we go.

How many of you don't like to be called a "noob?" A couple? A few?

Here's an easy way to avoid it.

STOP ACTING LIKE ONE!

Stop the negligent discharges in spawn...if you want to group your stuff or see how it operates on a specific map, take the time to use the training grounds. Learn how to lock your targets. Stop shooting your teammates in the back. Stop wandering off on your own. Use cover and concealment.

Thank you for your time. I need a beer.

Fierostetz, on 06 March 2014 - 04:32 PM, said:

This single thread will change how everyone plays the game, overnight! Good on you sir!

Firelizard, on 06 March 2014 - 04:34 PM, said:

Sadly, this wont help much. The ignorant learn from their mistakes, but the stupid ones... You cant fix stupid.

Monkey Lover, on 06 March 2014 - 05:13 PM, said:

noob balance? or you just a forum noob hehe

Twinkie D Lite, on 06 March 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:

nOObs are fine, we all started somewhere. Its just the stupid ones you cant fix.

Elkfire, on 06 March 2014 - 06:04 PM, said:

Mystere, on 06 March 2014 - 09:27 PM, said:

Noob!

Karl Streiger, on 06 March 2014 - 11:18 PM, said:

Hm - i can't suggest that training grounds is a good idea:
Training ground is only good for knowing the map, maybe to get a feeling about heat - but you can't learn to shoot

Its harder to hit a Mech in training grounds - because there the HSR convergence issues are (or at least were) still existent.
My terribad performance with AC 2 - was the reason i never used them in game - until some days ago...and believe it or not... its so much easier to hit a moving target in game as it is to hit a standing target while you are moving.

Joseph Mallan, on 07 March 2014 - 03:46 AM, said:

I prefer to use the the term Boot. It was a term used often in the Corps when discussing a new Marine to the Unit. Its a fighting game that is based off Military conflict in the future, so to me Boot fits...
...
...
Unintentional Pun!

wwiiogre, on 07 March 2014 - 10:19 AM, said:

The way to help new players is to be on the voip channels that they find here. Comstar NA, NoGutsNoGalaxy, etc. Then you sit in the open dropships and let new players join you to form a group. Then you spend an hour or two talking with them, while you run them thru drop after drop.

Posting on the forum may help some. But, to really help a new player, it takes time and patience and the willingness to drop with them.

I try to get a few drops in with complete strangers that are new to ngng's ts3. Then if they ask I tell them about the merc corps I know that have good people in them. I also tell them about the ultra competitive groups as well. So they can have more information to make good choices.

Now, PGI, should have a community run new player development volunteer group with forum posts and even in game messages that appear to any player with less than 25 drops. Telling them where to find help, where on the forum to find the information they need. Telling them the merc corps or House factions that are volunteering to help new players.

Just in case you really wanted to help new players, and not just put lip service to it out of frustration cause you just watched yet another stalker 3f charge forward shooting LRM's at the mech 30 meters away and once again dying before doing more than 30 pts of damage. This is a tale repeated every single day in pug drops.

Chris

Noobs

I agree with the OP's sentiment, being new doesn't excuse consistent and regular bad play.

[Clit Beastwood]

WHAT why am I lumped in there! I bite my thumb at you, sir!

[Nicholas Carlyle]

The fact that a thread like this even had to be made makes me sad.

[Mazzyplz]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 07 March 2014 - 12:48 PM, said:

The fact that a thread like this even had to be made makes me sad.

it didn't "HAVE TO" be made. as fierostetz pointed out, it probably will help no one, because for starters - it would be on the new player forum instead of this one... so this thread is useless

if you really want to help noob players and their teams (their teams are the ones that need help, which is why they get mad at the noob)
get pgi to stop putting 4 noobs on the same team -> resulting in a rollstomp

also noobs need to learn not to bring their 3 noob friends, none of which can hit the broadside of a barn, to play together - that's going to generate a lot of frustration for the poor team that ends up with them on their side

i know it's a new game that you and your friends want to enjoy, but you guys need to learn to play first - or else by learning to play in 4 man drop together you're screwing everybody not just yourselves

Edited by Mazzyplz, 07 March 2014 - 01:20 PM.

[Mavairo]

Difference between Newbie and Noob.

The first is self explanatory. The latter is just someone that plays bad.

To counter the Don't Shoot your Team Mates in the back, there's a caveat and expansion required.

Do Not Face Hump Targets, Unless you enjoy getting Shot In The Back. Do NOT block Firing lanes into the target in an attempt to pad your KDR and make yourself feel like a hero, unless again you enjoy getting shot in the back. I quit holding back on the trigger in those two scenarios. Far as I'm concerned Mr McPants Hero that does either of these deserves the full fusillade he's going to get from me if he's blocking my shot.

[Charons Little Helper]

Fierostetz, on 07 March 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

WHAT why am I lumped in there! I bite my thumb at you, sir!

The law is not on your side when you bite your thumb at someone.

I do not bite my thumb at them... but I do - bite my thumb!

[Xeno Phalcon]

Only people to ever call me a noob were already dead, fortunate for them.

[Clit Beastwood]

Charons Little Helper, on 07 March 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

The law is not on your side when you bite your thumb at someone.

I do not bite my thumb at them... but I do - bite my thumb!

Do you quarrel, sir?


[holy poo, we're elevating the culture of the forums!]

[Willard Phule]

wwiiogre, on 07 March 2014 - 10:19 AM, said:

The way to help new players is to be on the voip channels that they find here. Comstar NA, NoGutsNoGalaxy, etc. Then you sit in the open dropships and let new players join you to form a group. Then you spend an hour or two talking with them, while you run them thru drop after drop.

But I don't WANT to help them. What's my incentive to drive the short bus? Do I get extra Cbills to tell them that they need to lock targets? Do I get extra XP to teach them how to group the LRMs on their Trial Stalkers? No, I don't.

IT'S NOT MY JOB.

wwiiogre, on 07 March 2014 - 10:19 AM, said:

Posting on the forum may help some. But, to really help a new player, it takes time and patience and the willingness to drop with them.

With the level of intelligence of some of these clowns, I'd be surprised if they can read or write...let alone get involved in the forums.

wwiiogre, on 07 March 2014 - 10:19 AM, said:

I try to get a few drops in with complete strangers that are new to ngng's ts3. Then if they ask I tell them about the merc corps I know that have good people in them. I also tell them about the ultra competitive groups as well. So they can have more information to make good choices.

Good for you. You're a paragon of virtue and a pillar of patience. I, however, am not.

wwiiogre, on 07 March 2014 - 10:19 AM, said:

Now, PGI, should have a community run new player development volunteer group with forum posts and even in game messages that appear to any player with less than 25 drops. Telling them where to find help, where on the forum to find the information they need. Telling them the merc corps or House factions that are volunteering to help new players.

No, PGI should have some sort of mandatory training scenarios...not just this "here's how you move forward" crap. With a little "do you wish to learn how to play the game" message.

wwiiogre, on 07 March 2014 - 10:19 AM, said:

Just in case you really wanted to help new players, and not just put lip service to it out of frustration cause you just watched yet another stalker 3f charge forward shooting LRM's at the mech 30 meters away and once again dying before doing more than 30 pts of damage. This is a tale repeated every single day in pug drops.

Chris

Dude. You have no clue. I don't mind the "overheat shutdown conga" line of Trial Stalkers...at least they provide 85 tons of extra armor I can hide behind if I have to.

Evidently, the MM is set to fill the slots with EVERY FREAKIN' ELO LEVEL PLAYING...there's no point of even having Elo at all. I get stuck with morons that ask questions like "how do I move forward?" or "what do you mean, lock targets? How do I do that?"

Whatever. Look, it's real simple and it's a life lesson. If you don't want to be called a noob, don't act like one.

In real life, if you drive like an idiot...you get called an idiot. If you can't manage to get a fast food order correct, the guy you're giving it to is going to call you an idiot. Get used to it. If I have to "get used" to playing with these cross eyed, drooling, one chromosone too many cretins, then they can "get used" to being called noobs.

[Charons Little Helper]

Fierostetz, on 07 March 2014 - 02:48 PM, said:

Do you quarrel, sir?

Draw, if you be a man! (I know I skipped some)