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[Jon Gotham]

That income thread is starting to irritate me immensely.


Whine #2: The Group queue.
I'm SICK of being fed to larger teams. Larger teams that spam cbills at you and are meta'd up to the gills like it's a tournament, every game. there are about 5-6 groups I run into regularly and I'm getting really sick of the way they play.
This is compounded by no one on your small groups-jammed-together team wants to talk to the other teams. This allows the larger groups to farm smaller groups to their heart's content.
All this because of solo players raging that they had to work as a team in the old queue and not "do what they want" all the time. "Why should I?" "I don't want to group up" etc.

Net result? ZERO casual grouping with your friends. Play competitively or expect to be meta'd into oblivion.


I'll say this one more time group players:

THE TEAM IS BIGGER THAN YOUR TS AND YOUR GROUP.
Stop letting these comp-style meta monkeys farm you.

Edited by kamiko kross, 03 December 2014 - 06:50 AM.

[Kjudoon]

Beware CW Kam... It's only going to be worse, and I cringe over that, because now... there's acknowledgement of 'awesome/skill/winning/cheese' built into the game metric. Lotsa people going to be deriving their self worth out of that.

Edited by Kjudoon, 03 December 2014 - 08:23 AM.

[Alienized]

lul i get called ******* all time ingame because i tell people that they are terrible when driving nothing but streak-srm clanboats.

given, i am an *******, maybe an elitist ******* but im not lowering myself to a gimp lvl.

(i can already feel the incoming rage )

[Jon Gotham]

Aliisa White, on 03 December 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:

lul i get called ******* all time ingame because i tell people that they are terrible when driving nothing but streak-srm clanboats.

given, i am an *******, maybe an elitist ******* but im not lowering myself to a gimp lvl.

(i can already feel the incoming rage )

http://media.giphy.c...ix8Y0/giphy.gif
Me after my first timid, campy loss today.

[Alienized]

kamiko kross, on 03 December 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:

http://media.giphy.c...ix8Y0/giphy.gif
Me after my first timid, campy loss today.

[Bulletsponge0]

DNI Operator, on 03 December 2014 - 06:11 AM, said:

Completely newb team, guy complaining about newb team.
Complainer only does 181 damage.
I'm the only one to get a kill out of the whole team, which gets curb stomped in all under 2 minutes.
ffs

oh..I've had drops where me, in a 2 ER-PPC adder (not exactly a mech known for high DPS) out damaged the entire assault lance (2 Dire Wolves, an Atlas and a banshee) combined

WTF?

[Alienized]

my whine: bought the 4-4 yesterday. love it but it needs the ac5 in the side torsi =/
at least it gets battles in seconds even with 56% of heavy mechs waiting

Bulletsponge0, on 03 December 2014 - 12:36 PM, said:

oh..I've had drops where me, in a 2 ER-PPC adder (not exactly a mech known for high DPS) out damaged the entire assault lance (2 Dire Wolves, an Atlas and a banshee) combined

WTF?

had that too with my buds in group queue. sparky and me in the 4-4 done most damage. our 3 random assaults done 120damage each....and the sparky and i fought 6 mechs on our own...
i still dont have a single clue how our team got decimated so hard while we fought and STILL LIVED the longest...
some of the groups been completely awkward >_> like deathballing with jenners, cicadas and other lightwheights in between the heavies.....

sometimes you just cant deal with the amount of fail in the group queue... the fail in solo queue is already bad but in group-queue you got the complete group failing hard.... thats hard to compensate =/

[Jon Gotham]

Honestly Aliisa, I think the over all skill level is lowering. Some of the tactical mistakes I have seen today......one on crimson especially made me feel sick to my stomach. Team (whole team) lemmings up the saddle, they start to backwards/forwards shuffle on the very top of it. I say in chat "if you are going up there, get over the ridge-don't just stand there" what happens? team just stands there, enemy team is below the garage so sensible option would be to press over, decimate the 2 mechs up there and command strongest position.
What happened? Two of us went over.
Rest of team all hovered on top of saddle, STILL doing backwards/forwards peek-a-boo shuffle.

End result? team gets decimated like day 1 newbies. I point out in chat that we were too timid and should have pushed over. then one excuse for a human being pipes up about my lack of damage compared to his. He actually thought that mattered considering WHY we lost.
HOW are these people waking up each day and going about their daily lives safely?

It's like it in other online titles too. I also play WOT where there is a mod called xvm which displays stats on the players in your match, it colour codes players according to an efficiency scale. Red being the worst (sub 500 score) to purple being the best (2k+). average is supposed to be about 1000 (yellow) so why then are around 95%+ of every team I see full of red players with sub 500 scores? Many of these people have played THOUSANDS of battles, only to be seven thousand attempts later-still awful.
I don't think it's just MWO to be honest. One of these people might be in that laden 26 ton lorry right behind you on the motorway.....

[HimseIf]

My daily whine is.. Reading the forum makes me wish i had a computer to play on. Did i miss the era of giant lily pads? No! i wanted to see them with my own eyes.

Aliisa White, on 03 December 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:

lul i get called ******* all time ingame because i tell people that they are terrible when driving nothing but streak-srm clanboats.

given, i am an *******, maybe an elitist ******* but im not lowering myself to a gimp lvl.

(i can already feel the incoming rage )

i think all clan streak boats are a crutch TBH. Funny thing is self proclaimed elite players boat them.

kamiko kross, on 03 December 2014 - 06:24 AM, said:

Whine #2: The Group queue.
THE TEAM IS BIGGER THAN YOUR TS AND YOUR GROUP.
Stop letting these comp-style meta monkeys farm you.

True, i find the other teams do talk to you through the typed chat, but only to tell you that you are comparable to a vacuum cleaner. If i ask for any advice or idea on what they are doing they can only type something like "OMG you are a direct comparison to a vacuum cleaner" but in a much less eloquent way. When they die, they blame you (and i) for their death and if you ask them for advise on enemy position, weaknesses and for a good spot to set up a trap/kill spot they get really mad, no brains.

Aliisa White, on 03 December 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

our 3 random assaults done 120damage each....and the sparky and i fought 6 mechs on our own...
i still dont have a single clue how our team got decimated so hard while we fought and STILL LIVED the longest...

Shoot the atlas/direwhale syndrome is a thing.

Edited by HimseIf, 03 December 2014 - 06:19 PM.

[FatYak]

Hit registration - again - is average to non existent.

Whats the point if you cant do any damage to anythinhg

\Makes me want to spit - over a year I've been playing MWO now and they still cant fix this

Edited by Verapamil, 03 December 2014 - 07:51 PM.

[Alienized]

kamiko kross, on 03 December 2014 - 03:25 PM, said:

It's like it in other online titles too. I also play WOT where there is a mod called xvm which displays stats on the players in your match, it colour codes players according to an efficiency scale. Red being the worst (sub 500 score) to purple being the best (2k+). average is supposed to be about 1000 (yellow) so why then are around 95%+ of every team I see full of red players with sub 500 scores? Many of these people have played THOUSANDS of battles, only to be seven thousand attempts later-still awful.
I don't think it's just MWO to be honest. One of these people might be in that laden 26 ton lorry right behind you on the motorway.....

in WoT, XVM only shows how good you are in camping. the best players there have absolutely no map overview or teamplay. its a simple *use that op tank and be pro* problem. my WoT name is Ferox11 if you wanna look it up.
but the amount of complete fail is still higher there imho since tanks as the IS-7 or especially the tank destroyers + prem shells are more important than skill.

in mwo, you cant bounce shots. many top players in WoT couldnt get **** done here because of that.


the worst problem of MWO are people that simply cant play different than in WoT. peek-a-boo with tanks that got a strong turret works there but in MWO its pure fail.
sadly most people arent even looking up strategies and tactics. thats why its so bad here.

[xWiredx]

My daily whine: why the fk does the matchmaker pit a very piecemeal team of 4 groups against a 12 man? Ugh. Them's the breaks.

[Ezra Grimani]

SO YOU LIKE HIDING IN THE TUNNELS HUH
WELL HERE'S A TUNNEL FOR YOU

E: That moment when your teammate kills you after you shoot them, because they shot you to begin with.

Edited by DNI Operator, 04 December 2014 - 10:43 AM.

[jper4]

been happening a bit more lately- the last guy left alive (in an oddly well preserved mech for that point of the battle) who makes sure he goes out of his way to find a good spot to hide in before shutting down and disconnecting from the match to save their precious kdr.

[Chiasson Brinker]

Related to each other for today's whine... The Pirate's Bane locust... Just... The whole package. I hate it with a passion reserved for politicians and Terra Therma. And related to that, when you're spectating, and it seems like the pilot you're watching is trying to give themselves sea sickness.Cursor bouncing all over the place, cockpit glitching in and out of frame....

[Kuritaclan]

6 out of 8 times the new Bog map,... well what an unlucky rng. At least #9 and #10 were other maps.

[Bilbo]

I haven't shot at a big stompy robot in two weeks.

[Jon Gotham]

xWiredx, on 04 December 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

My daily whine: why the fk does the matchmaker pit a very piecemeal team of 4 groups against a 12 man? Ugh. Them's the breaks.

But hey! as long as the solo deliberately-won't-group-up players are happy! Because they are the important ones right? Because there's more of them...right?

/sarcasm off

[Alienized]

kamiko kross, on 05 December 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

But hey! as long as the solo deliberately-won't-group-up players are happy! Because they are the important ones right? Because there's more of them...right?

/sarcasm off

you could group up with me..

[jper4]

kamiko kross, on 05 December 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

But hey! as long as the solo deliberately-won't-group-up players are happy! Because they are the important ones right? Because there's more of them...right?

/sarcasm off

wouldn;t have been so bad if they had kept to the "4 man groups or less will have the option of going to the solo or group queue with a matching group for the other team if they went to the solo queue" option that was floated around briefly in the early days of group separating ideas.