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[A banana in the tailpipe]

Edited by Egomane, 06 May 2014 - 02:00 PM.

[Hollow Earth]

Oh boy! Cheese n' Crackers! this is better then a new map!

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Hollow Earth, on 06 May 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Oh boy! Cheese n' Crackers! this is better then a new map!

iknorite?

I've longed for stock matches...

[Mcgral18]

The centurion performed very nicely.

The Locusts....weren't the worst choice actually. The awesomes were feared. It's almost a different game entirely.

I'll be attending again next week.

Edited by Mcgral18, 06 May 2014 - 12:42 PM.

[Iqfish]

What's the point of this thread?

Is it pointless enough to get off-topic?

[EyeOne]

He's not wrong though. I'd love a stock only drop queue.

[Crotch RockIt]

Mcgral18, on 06 May 2014 - 12:42 PM, said:

The centurion performed very nicely.

The Locusts....weren't the worst choice actually. The awesomes were feared. It's almost a different game entirely.

I'll be attending again next week.

Yeah, you were lethal in that CN9-A.

[Koniving]

New player experience.
Stock mech only queue.

Add all stock mechs except heroes. Allow players to play stock only. Teaches great things about heat management and so on. Nothing is obscenely outclassed.

Once they get their own mech, well customized mechs get dropped into the "actual game."

[Trauglodyte]

EyeOne, on 06 May 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

He's not wrong though. I'd love a stock only drop queue.

Don't necessarily need a stock only queue as much as an option to drive stock mechs that you don't own in the Private Match system. Problem solved.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

My god, Stock mech only queue would be a great change of pace.

[RedDragon]

EyeOne, on 06 May 2014 - 12:43 PM, said:

He's not wrong though. I'd love a stock only drop queue.

Well, if you think about it: Why not have the game balanced around stock configs? Sure, this will mess up free customization. But think about it: The only thing that will happen is that some builds will get dominant while others are pointless. In other words: The same we have now. Meta humpers can still brake the game and play their cheesy configs - they won't see much difference and will still have their mech lab, while purists could enjoy a "balanced" stock queue.

[627]

weren't the DHS mechs totally OP? and everything with newer tech like endo?

[Koniving]

I wonder how I'd do considering...
Stock mechs against non-stocks.

Spoiler

I'll be participating in the next stock mech monday and bring my camcorder with me. I'll see if I can bring Lordred too.

[Trauglodyte]

Would be nice if you got some sort of bonus for running a stock build, allowing for upgraded IS, armor, DHSs, and possibly engine.

[DocBach]

http://mechforceclas...enjin.com/forum

Stock Mech Mondays Forum

[Mcgral18]

627, on 06 May 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

weren't the DHS mechs totally OP? and everything with newer tech like endo?

Yes. Yesterday DHS weren't allowed, so things were pretty even. Everything ran hot, but it was a much funner game, in my opinion.

The rules might change a little over the coming weeks, but I welcome a SHS only stock game.

[Hollow Earth]

Actually, I'm curious, how do Double Heat Sink equipped stock mechs fare? (Blackjack-3s, Battlemaster-3M's and Wolverine-7K's)
Would they become a lot more powerful or feared?

[Sybreed]

Crotch RockIt, on 06 May 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

Yeah, you were lethal in that CN9-A.

Back when we had repair and rearm, the cn9a was my most cost efficient mech

[cSand]

I will have to get in next Monday.....

how do I join?

Edited by cSand, 06 May 2014 - 01:04 PM.

[Koniving]

RedDragon, on 06 May 2014 - 12:47 PM, said:

Meta humpers can still brake the game and play their cheesy configs - they won't see much difference and will still have their mech lab, while purists could enjoy a "balanced" stock queue.

One thing that isn't based on stock configs right now per sé is armor. (Link leads to a post with another link to a feature suggestion, as well as some debate with someone who disagrees; so it's fleshed out there too).

Nothing limits it, and that's where a huge amount of the imbalance comes from. That and no drawbacks to putting on endo steel, DHS, etc. Since thresholds change, having larger thresholds with SHS would give you a reason to use them (or cut DHS thresholds in half; right now between DHS, 'skills' and threshold increases we have QHS anyway. See here). Repair and rearm restored (but revamped significantly) would give you reasons to choose STD engines and STD structure or even Ferro armor instead.

Spoiler

Bah. The QHS proof has been deleted from the Masakari thread. I'll redo it later. Basically play with this, with 20 DHS (need a 250 engine and full unlocks) you can achieve 3.91 cooling/sec + 76.8 basically makes you obscenely overpowered versus 4.0 cooling/sec and 30 threshold. (To the point where with ghost heat penalties you could squeeze out 9 PPCs in MWO in 8 seconds, but with TT and no ghost heat, you'd shutdown with 6 at a slower pattern, or if you paced yourself within that 8 seconds come very close to shutting down while never achieving 3 at once.) Have a token!