Clan Pack Mech Variants/configurations! (Reddit Ama)
#101
Posted 23 May 2014 - 04:32 AM
#103
Posted 23 May 2014 - 07:58 AM
Joseph Mallan, on 23 May 2014 - 04:37 AM, said:
I am kinda sad I can't have 14 SPLs...only 13.
But 4 MGs in the torso is acceptable. I was hoping for the U, which had 4 MGs in EACH side torso...8 MGs+12 lasers.
That would have been very nasty.
#104
Posted 23 May 2014 - 08:03 AM
Mcgral18, on 23 May 2014 - 07:58 AM, said:
I am kinda sad I can't have 14 SPLs...only 13.
But 4 MGs in the torso is acceptable. I was hoping for the U, which had 4 MGs in EACH side torso...8 MGs+12 lasers.
That would have been very nasty.
Yeah I remember that build fondly. Sadly not at launch. The upside is that it's possible down the road.
Overall, I'm pleased with the Alt Config choices and have lots of ideas churning away with wub in mind.
#108
Posted 23 May 2014 - 01:19 PM
Strum Wealh, on 23 May 2014 - 02:53 AM, said:
The Command Chair post states:
- "Some OmniMechs, as determined by Design, have specific weapons or other pieces of equipment (such as jump jets) as part of their base configuration."
- "These weapons and equipment can be neither moved nor removed."
Do you have a citable Dev statement (including links for forum/Twitter/etc posts, and links + timestamps for VLogs & podcasts) indicating that all Jump Jets for all OmniMech configs will be fixed, regardless of BT status?
Anything the devs have said, is from the book (like you stated there). So yes the JJ's on the Madcats S can be removed because they were not on the Prime. TL;DR Any equipment that is added later from the Prime is stuff that can be add/removed.
#109
Posted 23 May 2014 - 01:43 PM
SirLANsalot, on 23 May 2014 - 01:19 PM, said:
The Base Chassis is not the same thing as the Prime Configuration.
The Base Chassis is the collection of only the fixed components of the OmniMech - the Engine, Structure, Armor, fixed HS, and so on - with the pod space being empty.
The Prime Configuration is merely one of the configurations that fills the pod space with a specific set of additional equipment - the difference between the Prime Config and the other alternate configs is that the Prime config simply happens to be the most common configuration.
As such, your conclusion would be correct if it read as "Any equipment that is added later from the Base is stuff that can be add/removed."
#111
Posted 23 May 2014 - 01:49 PM
4xERLL (make it two PPC and two LL to avoid Ghost heat)
4xMPL
2xCUAC5
1xCLRM10
So you get an assault with a free heavy thrown in in terms of weapons/alpha.
ie. Atlas with 2xERLL and 2xUAC5 is pretty standard. so the Daishi gets an extra 2xERLL, 4MPL and LRM10 (which will function as a streak 10 based on CC posts).
Not OP????
#112
Posted 23 May 2014 - 01:52 PM
Chemie, on 23 May 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:
4xERLL (make it two PPC and two LL to avoid Ghost heat)
4xMPL
2xCUAC5
1xCLRM10
So you get an assault with a free heavy thrown in in terms of weapons/alpha.
ie. Atlas with 2xERLL and 2xUAC5 is pretty standard. so the Daishi gets an extra 2xERLL, 4MPL and LRM10 (which will function as a streak 10 based on CC posts).
Not OP????
Clanners should be happy. They will still be powerful yet not broken.
#113
Posted 23 May 2014 - 01:56 PM
Chemie, on 23 May 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:
4xERLL (make it two PPC and two LL to avoid Ghost heat)
4xMPL
2xCUAC5
1xCLRM10
So you get an assault with a free heavy thrown in in terms of weapons/alpha.
ie. Atlas with 2xERLL and 2xUAC5 is pretty standard. so the Daishi gets an extra 2xERLL, 4MPL and LRM10 (which will function as a streak 10 based on CC posts).
Not OP????
You're not taking heat into consideration. The DW Prime is incapable of continuous fire with the 4 ERLL. It can however fire 2 ERLL, 2 UAC5 (on single shot) and 4 MPL continuously. You're also forgetting that clans don't have LL and PPC to swap in, you could maybe switch the 4 ERLL for 2 ERPPC though (damage equivalent of 3 ERLL with slightly better heat curve).
Edited by Octavian, 23 May 2014 - 01:58 PM.
#114
Posted 23 May 2014 - 02:08 PM
Chemie, on 23 May 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:
4xERLL (make it two PPC and two LL to avoid Ghost heat)
4xMPL
2xCUAC5
1xCLRM10
So you get an assault with a free heavy thrown in in terms of weapons/alpha.
ie. Atlas with 2xERLL and 2xUAC5 is pretty standard. so the Daishi gets an extra 2xERLL, 4MPL and LRM10 (which will function as a streak 10 based on CC posts).
Not OP????
Personally I would modify the build just a bit. I believe it is possible to go: 2xER LL, 6xER ML, 2xUAC10, and a streak 6. That should still have several tons left over for ammo and DHS. I can't wait for the Dire Wolf
#115
Posted 23 May 2014 - 04:37 PM
#116
Posted 23 May 2014 - 04:41 PM
Angry Viking, on 23 May 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:
not sure why this is a suprise to you, it has been comming since day1.
#117
Posted 23 May 2014 - 05:38 PM
"A" would've been at least 2-4 missile hardpoints and 4 energy.. I could make some great builds with that.
"B" would've been 2 ballistic and 6 energy.. also good for some great builds.
Or hey, how about these are omni-mechs and shouldn't have hardpoints to begin with.
#118
Posted 23 May 2014 - 05:54 PM
lonewolfsx, on 23 May 2014 - 05:38 PM, said:
"A" would've been at least 2-4 missile hardpoints and 4 energy.. I could make some great builds with that.
"B" would've been 2 ballistic and 6 energy.. also good for some great builds.
Or hey, how about these are omni-mechs and shouldn't have hardpoints to begin with.
Looking at the record sheets you should be able to build the "A" using combination of omni pods. The weapons would be laid out differently but with no major impact to the weapon's usefulness.
It also appears we will be able to get within 1 energy hardpoint of the "B" variant based on some pod swapping. Not to mention I think the "B" variant would suffer from low ammo (2 tons stock). Probably would need to drop a laser or two with that build anyways.
So we pretty much got those variants anyways... assuming there are no limitations on combining pods with CTs that would prevent this.
Edited by Rouken, 23 May 2014 - 05:57 PM.
#119
Posted 23 May 2014 - 07:53 PM
Shar Wolf, on 22 May 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:
P: 4xERLL 4xMPL 2xUAC5 1xLRM10
-- 2B 8E 1M
A: 1xGauss 3xLPL 2xSSRM6 AMS
-- 1B 3E 2M
B: 4xUAC2 2xERPPC 1xLBAC10 2xMPL 1xERSL
-- 5B 5E
Looking at where these hardpoints would be with help from Solaris SkunkWerks, methinks we might be able to go Time Paradox and re-create the Wolf's Dragoon's 'Configuration W' before they even come up with the design for such. Only changes to make this work until we do get an official DIre Wolf-W would be...
1. RT OmniPod from Dire Wolf-B to support the UAC/20 canonically mounted there.
2. Movement of the CT-mounted pair of Medium Pulse Lasers to the RA OmniPod.
3. Movement of one Double Heat Sink from RA to CT.
4. Movement of HD-mounted ER Small Laser to LA.
5. Movement of fourth ton of Gauss Ammo to HD.
Asides from that, it should work like a Dire Wolf-W. I'd personally swap the Gauss and UAC/20 to each others' spots due to my mental quirk of 'Rotary-barreled weapon~? Belongs on LA' and trade in the fourth ton of Gauss Ammo for a third ton of ammo for the UAC/20, but that's just me. =u=
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As for other Mechs, I was hoping for the Timber Wolf-A myself. Really wanted to see if the trio of Medium Pulse Lasers housed in the LT are mounted where the LRM-20 on a T-Wolf Prime would be and if PGI would get creative and mount them in a way that makes people think 'Oooh~! Gatling Lasers~!' Unless we do see the OmniPods from the Configurations we're not seeing as a la carte sorts of things, I don't think we'll know how those triple Medium Pulsies are mounted on the T-Wolf-A for a while. o.o
On the flipside, I was originally disappoint we got Configuration C for the Stormcrow and not Configuration B, but this may work out to our advantage if we're seeing the UAC/20 as a primary weapon and not a secondary. Three Energy Hardpoints on the right arm means three ER Medium Lasers and three more tons worth of space for UAC/20 ammo. Not exactly a Stormcrow-B, but for me it'll do. o.o
#120
Posted 23 May 2014 - 08:31 PM
12 ERSLAS, 4 MGUN, fixed jump-jets...
I present, for your consideration, the 50 ton Ember.
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