18 replies to this topic

[RangerGee412]

Please? Would love to have one

[RetroActive]

We already have one. It's the Phoenix variant.

Doubt you'll be seeing a different one anytime soon.

[Eddrick]

It would be nice. Question is: How to make it differant, without being outright better then the existing Variants?

Edited by Eddrick, 05 June 2014 - 09:17 AM.

[SgtMagor]

actually all the (P) variant are listed as a Champion, so maybe PGI did that on purpose to give us a Hero Battlemaster?

Edited by SgtMagor, 05 June 2014 - 08:49 AM.

[RangerGee412]

What's the hardpoints on the Phoenix variant?

[FupDup]

I'd rather have a hero Shadow Hawk.

Left torso: 2-4 energy
Right torso: 4-2 ballistic
(6 hardpoints total)
Jump jets: 3 (3 max)
Engine limit: 300

Let's do this!

[Eddrick]

RangerGee412, on 05 June 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

What's the hardpoints on the Phoenix variant?

RA: 1 E
RT: 3 E
LT: 3 E, 1 M
LA: 2 B

Also, has a Torso Twist nerf

[RussianWolf]

RangerGee412, on 05 June 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

What's the hardpoints on the Phoenix variant?

Same as the hardpoints on the non-phoenix variant, that's why its considered a Champion. Same for the Founders. Only difference is the Cbill boost, "unique geometry" and camo.

Heroes will have unique hardpoint configs.

They didn't make the same claims as they did with the Founders pack, so we may see them sooner for the Phoenix Pack. I'd be towards the October time frame since that's when they were released last year.

As to the Hunchback G and GridIron. My G runs with 3 machine guns as an very unusual build, the GridIron can't do that.

[Eddrick]

Possible, Hero Mech that in Timeline, without being better then the other variants. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleMaster

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BLR-1GHE BattleMaster HellSlinger
This Star League Era variant removes the Machine Guns and SRM launcher and their ammunition. The SRM launcher is replaced by three Streak SRM-2 launchers with a single ton of ammunition. Two forward Medium Lasers are removed, and an extra PPC is mounted in the left arm. Sixteen Double Heat Sinks keep the 'Mech cool, and the 'Mech's armor is upgraded to Ferro-Fibrous armor. An extra half ton of armor is also installed.

RussianWolf, on 05 June 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

As to the Hunchback G and GridIron. My G runs with 3 machine guns as an very unusual build, the GridIron can't do that.

Didn't Grid Iron had fewer B Hard Points. Retracting, claim.

Edited by Eddrick, 05 June 2014 - 09:45 AM.

[DONTOR]

It should have The exact same Hardpoints as the Cataphract 3D if you ask me, but put the ballistics opposite side, but with no JJS (or with JJs i dont care)

[TercieI]

Since I doubt there are going to be Clan heroes at first, Phoenix heroes over the next few months seem possible, at least.

[Zerberus]

Eddrick, on 05 June 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:

It would be nice. Question is: How to make it differant, without being outright better then the existing Variants?

Agreed, it was hard enough for teh Atlas which only has four variants.... the BLR-x has five.

TBH the only thing I could imagine as remotely viable off the top of my head would be losing an energy HP for a second AMS.....

[RussianWolf]

Eddrick, on 05 June 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

Didn't Grid Iron had fewer B Hard Points. Retracting, claim.

Yep, the G has 3B and the GridIron only has 2B but adds a 1M

[Eddrick]

Zerberus, on 05 June 2014 - 09:58 AM, said:

Agreed, it was hard enough for teh Atlas which only has four variants.... the BLR-x has five.

TBH the only thing I could imagine as remotely viable off the top of my head would be losing an energy HP for a second AMS.....

The Viability of the above mentioned BLR-1GHE HellSlinger may be questionable. But, it is the most Missiles I have seen out of a Unique Variant so far. Without overlapping an existing Variant. The only problem I see with it, is that all 3 Missile Hardpoints are in the same section (LT).

Edited by Eddrick, 05 June 2014 - 10:15 AM.

[A Man In A Can]

Before we start considering Hero variants for Phoenix mechs, the Spider is the last non-Phoenix still needing its Hero variant so let's talk about that.

EDIT: In the June mech thread.

Edited by Mechwarrior Mousse, 05 June 2014 - 11:50 AM.

[Eddrick]

@ MechWarrior Mousse: Sounds worth making a thread for.

Edited by Eddrick, 05 June 2014 - 10:52 AM.

[Sephlock]

RetroActive, on 05 June 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

We already have one. It's the Phoenix variant.

Doubt you'll be seeing a different one anytime soon.

Didn't they say something similar about the Atlas? We ended up getting a Hero Atlas before we got a hero for every other mech, didn't we?

[Zerberus]

I could well imagine the phoenix mechs getting non-phoenix hero versions withinn, say, the next 6 months.

For example, July will probably see the hero spider, and one new IS chassis.

Now, they could of coure toss up the release schedule on teh IS, but AFAIK current plans are to also release 1 IS chassis /month as usual during clan phase in.

So, in august we have either teh new IS chassis for a hero, or a phoenix.

However, they used to release the hero, then teh standard.. this would mess that scheme up....

So we may see a phoenix hero pack or similar soon, or a change in release scheme... probably depends on what is already done and ready to be coded and what is still in teh pipeline.....

If they want to keep the old scheme, we`ll possibly see a phoenix hero and /or pack mid july as a "filler" /missed opportunity QQ reliever, with August reverting to hero 1st patch, new chassis 2nd patch. If not, anything goes

Edited by Zerberus, 05 June 2014 - 01:40 PM.

[Creovex]

SgtMagor, on 05 June 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

actually all the (P) variant are listed as a Champion, so maybe PGI did that on purpose to give us a Hero Battlemaster?

Food for thought... all founders mechs list as champions, so do all phoenix prims and I bet the clan will do the same. I guarantee you will see a hero for it eventually but expect it to be in the order of the release... hence Locust hero before this....just like they did with the founder 4 heroes.

Edited by Creovex, 05 June 2014 - 05:00 PM.