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#1 Mazzyplz

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:11 PM

that sounds like a tongue twister but seriously

i am tired of shooting at kit foxes and having the shots go directly THROUGH the mech!!!

what the hell, did you even try those things out when making em?

some people said the stormcrow also has problematic hitboxes and it would seem so but at least i haven't seen shots going through that mech, with the kit fox is routine stuff!!!!!!!!

#2 Destructicus

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:14 PM

I like seeing six three letter words together.

Anyways
It isn't the mech thats the problem
You ever shoot at a Spider?

Edited by Destructicus, 30 July 2014 - 07:15 PM.


#3 FupDup

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:16 PM

I never thought I'd see complaints about a 30 ton mech that can only run 106.9 kph after speed tweak.

#4 Monkey Lover

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:20 PM

Crow is the worst.Hit boxes on this are really bad. Nova head hitbox is mia.I think only splash damage is hitting it. Summoner legs are really bad to. But I think theyre just to large. I get legged in this mech more than a light.

#5 Mazzyplz

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:29 PM

View PostDestructicus, on 30 July 2014 - 07:14 PM, said:

I like seeing six three letter words together.

Anyways
It isn't the mech thats the problem
You ever shoot at a Spider?



every day and i usually kill them why - what do you say is the problem

#6 Roland

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

I've never had hot registration problems on a kit fox.

#7 Destructicus

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

View PostMazzyplz, on 30 July 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:



every day and i usually kill them why - what do you say is the problem

shots going through a mech aren't necessarily always a hitbox issue
It's basically HSR not doing what its supposed to
Don't be so quick to jump on the "FIX CLANS BECAUSE X" band wagon
This is an issue that happens with all light mechs

Edited by Destructicus, 30 July 2014 - 07:35 PM.


#8 Mazzyplz

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 08:12 PM

but the raven gives me no problems and it is half as wide! i am talking about not moving kit foxes here, the ones that are just sitting and spotting

im tellin u there is a spot where the geometry is there but it's not mapped to hitbox, at least i believe it is, i can't be 100% sure because i don't have the hitbox schematics from in game... but i strongly suspect it's there

#9 Monkey Lover

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 10:36 PM

I think you're right.They made all these mech fast who know how long they had to draw/program the hitboxes.I know he nova has a screwed up head hitbox. I tried to headshot a disconnect mech i couldnt do it . It never registed i had to core it.Be nice to see them in the testing ground but im guessing they know its screwed up so its not going to happen

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 10:39 PM

Sure, fix the non-existent problems on the Kit Fox.

Only after you fix the very real problems with the Spider and Firestarter.

#11 Monkey Lover

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 10:50 PM

View PostTraining Instructor, on 30 July 2014 - 10:39 PM, said:

Sure, fix the non-existent problems on the Kit Fox.

Only after you fix the very real problems with the Spider and Firestarter.
Spider has hit boxes larger than its model. They are so crapy now only a few people use them as a joke like the locust. Firestarter is one of the last good IS Mechs. Only light with real problems is the ember. Im guessing this is why you are thinking of firestarters.Hit boxes are screwed on the ember.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 30 July 2014 - 10:51 PM.


#12 NextGame

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:04 PM

If it makes you feel better, I can pile AC/20 shots into an atlas red internals ct and often have it fail to register.

#13 Budor

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:52 PM

Hit boxes on all clan mechs are fine.

#14 Tahribator

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:55 PM

Kit Foxes are one of the easiest mechs to kill, there's no problems here. It's probably a combination of horrible netcode and the stability of your connection.

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 02:52 AM

View PostMazzyplz, on 30 July 2014 - 07:11 PM, said:

that sounds like a tongue twister but seriously

i am tired of shooting at kit foxes and having the shots go directly THROUGH the mech!!!

what the hell, did you even try those things out when making em?

some people said the stormcrow also has problematic hitboxes and it would seem so but at least i haven't seen shots going through that mech, with the kit fox is routine stuff!!!!!!!!


I guess it is technically possible to miss a barn if both doors are open.

#16 Zeusacoatl

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 02:58 AM

I wish all players were like you cause I'll tell you what, I get ***** in my KF everytime I show up lol. You have to have a bad connection or something because most of the time in my kit peeps do not seem to have an issue, nor do I when I face off against one in one of my other mechs.

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 03:12 AM

View PostMazzyplz, on 30 July 2014 - 08:12 PM, said:

but the raven gives me no problems and it is half as wide! i am talking about not moving kit foxes here, the ones that are just sitting and spotting

im tellin u there is a spot where the geometry is there but it's not mapped to hitbox, at least i believe it is, i can't be 100% sure because i don't have the hitbox schematics from in game... but i strongly suspect it's there



I have experienced wonky hit reg with Kitfoxes my self.

Over heated and stationary Kitfox with no armor CT or RT sitting at around 70m aways I open fire with 4 SRM6s with Artemis (I have a bap on board as well) doesn't die,but I get a second barrage off before it's powered up and moving again and...it doesn't die. 48 SRMs hitting a mech with no CT or RT armor and not much of anything damaged.

Kitfox runs up to my Arrow and face hugs I hop back a bit getting about dozen meters away and open up with an AC20 3 MGs and 3 medium lasers...missed! Run past the kitfox and turn getting about 120m away and core it out with an AC20 slug.

Another powered down kitfox no CT armor no LL armor I open fire with my shadowhawk ER-PPC 3 MGs (hosing down the CT for 4 full seconds) and 3x SRM4s...Kitfox powers back up and runs away even after taking an ER-PPC into the unarmored leg.

Seems every time I run into an invulnerable kitfox it's when I'm firing at close ranges at longer ranges I seem to hit them fine.

#18 Alistair Winter

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 03:20 AM

Storm Crow is much worse, IMO. Trying to hit a Storm Crow's legs with a PPC is like water on a duck's back. The shots just slide off, the pilot looks at you like you're a moron, and then unloads 4 x SRM6+Artemis in your face.

And the Storm Crow is significantly more dangerous than the Kit Fox too.

#19 topgun505

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 03:49 AM

I have a mastered Kit Fox and I can tell you I have NO trouble getting killed in it if I happen to make any positioning mistakes. Nor have I ever had any problems hitting others of them. So I don't see them being much of a problem.

Spiders on the other hand? Very spotty.

#20 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:05 AM

View PostFupDup, on 30 July 2014 - 07:16 PM, said:

I never thought I'd see complaints about a 30 ton mech that can only run 106.9 kph after speed tweak.






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