291 replies to this topic

[Eboli]

Jesus... Nothing more needs to be written...

Edited by Eboli, 07 August 2014 - 08:25 PM.

[Noth]

Mcgral18, on 07 August 2014 - 08:21 PM, said:

You know, I think I'll have to start asking this after each weapon nerf...at one point it might be the case....or not.



If it keeps going this way...cERLL beams are over 3 times the length of isPLs.

Though funny, the answer will be no, until the fix the ppfld issues.

[Ultimax]

Sephlock, on 07 August 2014 - 08:23 PM, said:

When the 10 vs 12 test starts, things are gonna get ugly...

When they do proper premade 12 v 12 or 10 v 12 w/ IS vs. Clan testing and not open queue there will be different results.

Can we trust them to be honest about that? I hope so.

[ColonelMetus]

next they should nerf medium laser to ghost heat at 3

[Mcgral18]

ColonelMetus, on 07 August 2014 - 08:17 PM, said:

THIS IS MADNESS

FupDup, on 07 August 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

NO.

THIS. IS. PAUL INOUYEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Such lowrez. Much sad.

Edited by Mcgral18, 07 August 2014 - 08:36 PM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Ultimatum X, on 07 August 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

When they do proper premade 12 v 12 or 10 v 12 w/ IS vs. Clan testing and not open queue there will be different results.

Can we trust them to be honest about that? I hope so.

When replies such as, "It was our plan at the time." have been used, I can say we cannot have much hope for honesty.

[El Bandito]

ColonelMetus, on 07 August 2014 - 08:28 PM, said:

next they should nerf medium laser to ghost heat at 3

Yes... meanwhile my GH-less nine MPL 9P will ninja his way to success.

[3rdworld]

Not sure what you expect when the lead balancer admittedly doesn't actually play the game.

[Kiiyor]

DaZur, on 07 August 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

I appreciate the venting... That said, I'm not quite ready to castigate PGI over this just yet.

I've made the mistake previously of hopping on the "castrate Paul" bandwagon over these balance adjustments at face value without trying them first and I'm willing to give this a try before sharpening my knife.

The biggest contributor to this sort of shenanigans is this damn eternal search / demand for "balance"...

Balance is a lie... particularly when you have such a wide breadth of weapon mechanics.

This is a good point, but really, I don't think you can expect to make as large a weapon change as that applied to the ERLL without backlash. It wasn't a small change - it was enormous. The PPC issue just adjusted the projectile speed. The ERLL had it's duration, heat and ghost cheat changed drastically.

They asked for an entire feedback thread about the PPC+Gauss changes, and changed 1 variable for the weapons. Nary a peep was heard about ERLL, then WHAMMO.

I imagine that this may have been mitigated somewhat if they had communicated intent earlier. We all know what a volatile bunch of players frequent these forums - you have to be careful with loud noises and sudden movements

[Mcgral18]

El Bandito, on 07 August 2014 - 08:34 PM, said:

Yes... meanwhile my GH-less nine MPL 9P will ninja his way to success.

Why not 8 MPL AC20 Banshee S?

The least loved variant, it has such a tiny engine. It needs to carry all those big guns just to feel adequate.

[Livewyr]

sooo uhh..

Dafuq Paul?!

Fire one CERLL.. get a little bit of heat.
Fire 2 CERLL, and I have just fired 2 ERPPCs.

Are you drunk?

[DaZur]

Kiiyor, on 07 August 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

I imagine that this may have been mitigated somewhat if they had communicated intent earlier. We all know what a volatile bunch of players frequent these forums - you have to be careful with loud noises and sudden movements

Doesn't matter... They've tried it both ways and there is always an audience that feels disenfranchised.

[Livewyr]

While you are at it.. could you set the CERML Ghost heat threshold to zero with a +6 "Heat scale" so I can just go back to BF4?

For all their faults...

[Joseph Mallan]

Kiiyor, on 07 August 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

This is a good point, but really, I don't think you can expect to make as large a weapon change as that applied to the ERLL without backlash. It wasn't a small change - it was enormous. The PPC issue just adjusted the projectile speed. The ERLL had it's duration, heat and ghost cheat changed drastically.

They asked for an entire feedback thread about the PPC+Gauss changes, and changed 1 variable for the weapons. Nary a peep was heard about ERLL, then WHAMMO.

I imagine that this may have been mitigated somewhat if they had communicated intent earlier. We all know what a volatile bunch of players frequent these forums - you have to be careful with loud noises and sudden movements

Volatile? Have you ever read the TT forums?

[YueFei]

What the frak?

[Keeshu]

Beam duration and heat. Perhaps people will use Large Pulses for DPS and ER Large Lasers for Range and lower tonnage/space now.


What I don't understand is the heatscale change. Why is it only for the clan side? Is it to promote chain-firing for the clans? You won't be able to use more than 2 ER Larges without triggering ghost heat because of the long duration.


I'm not too surprised about the ER Large Laser nerf though. For their tonnage they kicked ass.

[FupDup]

YueFei, on 07 August 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

What the frak?

That sums it up pretty nicely.

[Kiiyor]

DaZur, on 07 August 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

Doesn't matter... They've tried it both ways and there is always an audience that feels disenfranchised.

True, but if they had done it for the ERLL, i likely wouldn't have been numbered among the legion of angry posters.

Instead, this morning...

[Zolaz]

lol ... really? Really ... this is where you are going? I like to say that Bad Pilots make Bad Decisions. Guess the same thing can be said about other things, like developing.

[EgoSlayer]

ColonelMetus, on 07 August 2014 - 08:28 PM, said:

next they should nerf medium laser to ghost heat at 3

Careful what you wish for...

Or maybe it's more like saying 'bloody mary' or 'candyman' in the mirror too many times...