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[War Kitten]

Greetings All,

I was just wondering...What is the difference between a Hero and a Champion Mech? (not counting the special set up for each chassis) Does one grant you 30% and the other a 40% bonus or some such?
How do you guys determine which chassis is eligible to be a H or C, or will there be a H or C for every chassis type eventually?

Just wondering....

Thanks All

War Kitten

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[Tahribator]

Champion 'Mechs are just regular variants that come pre-built with decent engines, weapons and upgrades. They give you 30% XP bonus for that particular champion 'Mech. XP is used to level 'Mechs and can be converted to GXP by using some real money(MC).

Hero 'Mechs are completely new variants of a chassis with different hardpoints and a special camo. They give you 30% C-Bill bonus.

The developers choose which champion 'Mechs they introduce, but eventually there'll be at least a Champion+Hero 'Mech for each chassis.

If you ask me, and if you don't want to spend too much, go with a Hero 'Mech instead. If you play this game regularly you'll soon have more XP/GXP than you'll know what to do with anyway. C-Bills on the other hand are never enough. It's the primary thing to grind for.

Edited by Tahribator, 06 November 2014 - 03:12 AM.

[Koniving]

As said above^ (From what I understand the XP bonus also boosts the GXP you earn while using it; or at least that would make sense).

Champions can be reskinned with other camo patterns.
Hero mechs are locked to their unique pattern. (Though if you want to be sly you can paint them basic green and most of the time people can't tell the difference by just looking at you; good way to hide in the crowd).

[Gianky]

Tahribator, on 06 November 2014 - 03:10 AM, said:

Champion 'Mechs are just regular variants that come pre-built with decent engines, weapons and upgrades. They give you 30% XP bonus for that particular champion 'Mech. XP is used to level 'Mechs and can be converted to GXP by using some real money(MC).

Hero 'Mechs are completely new variants of a chassis with different hardpoints and a special camo. They give you 30% C-Bill bonus.

Which begs the question: why are the CN9-AH and the AS7-S labelled as Champions instead of Heroes, since they give a C-bills bonus, not an Xp one, have special camos and hardpoints?

[Koniving]

Gianky, on 06 November 2014 - 03:55 AM, said:

Which begs the question: why are the CN9-AH and the AS7-S labelled as Champions instead of Heroes, since they give a C-bills bonus, not an Xp one, have special camos and hardpoints?

They are unique with skins and bonuses.
But not unique in hardpoints.
Much like Founder mechs, Phoenix, Invasion, Clan Wave II and Resistance... there will be standard cbill versions.

When the Founder package first started, there was no Hunchback 4G, no Atlas D, no honestly not sure if there was a Catapult C1.

I do know there was a Jenner D, but meh.

Then sometime later, everyone could get a 4G, Atlas D, C1, etc.

[Redshift2k5]

Founder mechs, preorder special variants ((P) pheonix and (I) clan pack primes), Sarah's Jenner, and the Loyalty Cent/Atlas are also listed as Champions. none of these are hero mechs because they all have the same stats as a regular mech outside of the added C-bills.

Technically it seems we need a new category since those mechs are different from the Champion mechs

[Rogue Jedi]

if you are after earning cbills fast then Heroes are better than Champions, however a good reason to get champions is to save time by spending real money.
Champions may not nessicaraly be the optimum build for the chassis (especialy after the quirk pass) but they come pre-upgraded, usualy having Endo Steel and Double Heat Sinks, and oftern an XL engine too.

The Light Champions especialy are great value with the XL255 in the Spider, 295 in the Firestarter and XL 300 in the Jenner (those engines work well for a large variaty of mechs). also you can buy and sell those mechs (as well as the Cicada Chammpion) with a better Cbill/MC exchange rate than the Cbill for MC packs, especialy if they are on sale (at 30-50% off)

[Sandtiger]

Meh, I love my hero's but I also love the new Cent-AH, and Fatlass mechs. I wish they had more Hero mechs, but that will come in time I suppose. Until then. Game on!

Cheers!

[mad kat]

Hero mechs also give the 30% xp boost as well as the 30% Cbill boost. Most but not all come with Double heat sinks and a few with Xl engines too.

They are the most worth having over champion mechs for economic reasons but don't believe they are all singing and dancing some can be rather naff depending on your view point and play style so look into them carefully before spending hard earned on them. An example of this is the Awesome hero the Pretty baby. It's very much a Niche mech and takes quite a bit of skill and experience to use one effectively. Wheras some can just jump in one and mess the enemy up good time (not saying that's me BTW). Although this mech among others has recently seen some unique improvements in the form of Quirks.

Best check here:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/

Edited by mad kat, 06 November 2014 - 07:32 AM.

[TercieI]

mad kat, on 06 November 2014 - 07:23 AM, said:

Hero mechs also give the 30% xp boost as well as the 30% Cbill boost.

This is false. Heroes do CB, Champions XP. Premium Time does both (50%)

[DEMAX51]

mad kat, on 06 November 2014 - 07:23 AM, said:

Hero mechs also give the 30% xp boost as well as the 30% Cbill boost...

That's not true. Hero 'Mechs only give an extra 30% C-bills. You may be thinking of Premium Time - which gives you a 50% increase to both C-bills and GXP every match.

Edit: Ninja'd! Well played, Terciel

Edited by DEMAX51, 06 November 2014 - 07:37 AM.

[TercieI]

DEMAX51, on 06 November 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

Edit: Ninja'd! Well played, Terciel

[mad kat]

I stand corrected then but i could of sworn they got an xp boost too. Maybe they did in closed beta and i missed the memo? Either way my hero's seem to consistently get higher xp scores. Gonna double check now.

**edit** yep it is just c-bills, well you learn something new everyday and all that. Still seems odd why my heros seem to farm xp better.

Edited by mad kat, 06 November 2014 - 08:22 AM.

[DEMAX51]

mad kat, on 06 November 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

I stand corrected then but i could of sworn they got an xp boost too. Maybe they did in closed beta and i missed the memo? Either way my hero's seem to consistently get higher xp scores. Gonna double check now.

**edit** yep it is just c-bills, well you learn something new everyday and all that. Still seems odd why my heros seem to farm xp better.

They never gave a boost to XP in Beta, either. Maybe you just perform better in them because you play them more often?

Edited by DEMAX51, 06 November 2014 - 08:26 AM.

[TercieI]

DEMAX51, on 06 November 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

They never gave a boost to XP in Beta, either. Maybe you just perform better in them because you play them more often?

The power of belief?

[mad kat]

DEMAX51, on 06 November 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

They never gave a boost to XP in Beta, either. Maybe you just perform better in them because you play them more often?

Well thanks for pointing that out i can sleep soundly tonight lol.

Odly not i think my standard mechs get more attention. Although my mastered firebrand is pretty devilish so that may explain it.

Edited by mad kat, 06 November 2014 - 08:29 AM.

[Gianky]

Redshift2k5, on 06 November 2014 - 04:21 AM, said:

Founder mechs, preorder special variants ((P) pheonix and (I) clan pack primes), Sarah's Jenner, and the Loyalty Cent/Atlas are also listed as Champions. none of these are hero mechs because they all have the same stats as a regular mech outside of the added C-bills.

Technically it seems we need a new category since those mechs are different from the Champion mechs

Ok, got it! And I agree, they should fall in a different category, since they are definitely not like Champions.

[Koniving]

Koniving, on 06 November 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

As said above^ (From what I understand the XP bonus also boosts the GXP you earn while using it; or at least that would make sense).

Champions can be reskinned with other camo patterns.
Hero mechs are locked to their unique pattern. (Though if you want to be sly you can paint them basic green and most of the time people can't tell the difference by just looking at you; good way to hide in the crowd).

Note:

DamnMe said:

just liked the above post, but this is 4 years out of date. (Guess someone searched it?) You can now change away from the hero mech patterns (and restore them by choosing the "default skin". Just wanted to make sure that was out there.

[Spare Parts Bin]

Koniving is correct, I know from personal experience you can restore Hero Mech camo pattern by going back to default setting in patterns.

The way to make a Hero Mech really shine is purchase the Mastery Bundle, it includes a Hero, a Champion,and a regular mech+ 30 days of premium time. Using only Hero Mechs with Premium Time gives an 80% C-Bill boost.