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Viper - The Missing Clan Mech Without A Technical Reason


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#1 MauttyKoray

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 02:10 AM

http://www.sarna.net...iper_(Dragonfly)

So yeah...don't know why PGI didn't include this in Wave 2. The Mad Dog was included as a bonus and will be coming out and Medium variety (especially faster Meds) in the Clans would be something greatly positive for all the Clan players.

Fire Moth and Executioner are dependent on the release of MASC in the future, which makes up the excuse for their exclusion. However there is no reason to not release the Viper with the Mad Dog being released as well which negates the ability to release a Wave 3 pack with 4 more clan mechs once MASC is finally implemented.

#2 STEF_

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 02:28 AM

There is a reason: selling a wave 3 :)

edit: with masc out, I want my shadowcat.

Edited by Stefka Kerensky, 05 December 2014 - 02:30 AM.


#3 Joe Mallad

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 03:29 AM

You answered your own question. It was held back so they would have a Med mech for wave 3. It's that simple.

#4 mindwarp

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 03:31 AM

People complained about the price of the clan mech pack anyway. If they'd added another mech it would have been even more expensive. And clan mech pack 2 was created when IGP was still in charge, meaning PGI didn't have the freedom to ask people what they wanted.

But you're right, there's no technical reason why it can't be in the game (other than the 3D model not being done). It'll probably be a solo release after all the pack mechs are out for c-bills, or as one of the mechs in the next clan pack. However they decide to sell it, you could lay fairly safe money on it being the next clan mech.

Not sure it will be all that great with only 8.5t of pod space.

Mechs you can probably look forward to for the clans are the Pouncer, Phantom, Linebacker, Kingfisher and Cauldron Born. I'd be very surprised if the next clan mech pack didn't include at least one of those mechs

Edited by mindwarp, 05 December 2014 - 03:45 AM.


#5 Curccu

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:20 AM

Your Viper link is broken.. add ) to url also..

#6 Curccu

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:24 AM

View Postmindwarp, on 05 December 2014 - 03:31 AM, said:

Not sure it will be all that great with only 8.5t of pod space.

With enough energy hardpoints it could be decent, loads of Clan SPL can tear down mechs quite fast.

#7 topgun505

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:38 AM

I'm looking forward to that mech. Hope it doesn't get borked hitboxes.

#8 Escef

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 05:19 AM

Viper would have similar hit boxes to a Nova, same overall shape.

I understand getting the Ice Ferret in first. Clan balance is still a work in progress, try fast on the ground before you try fast with jump jets. It's just prudent.

As for a "Wave III", I wouldn't hold my breath. More likely we'll see clan and Inner Sphere Tukkayyid packs instead. Just a hunch.

#9 Malcolm Vordermark

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 05:38 AM

They released a pack of 4 mechs and there was more than 4 mechs left for the Clans. We can also speculate that it would be difficult to sell the Ice Ferret after the Viper had been released.

#10 NovaFury

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 05:41 AM

*Waves Arctic Cheetah sign while making incoherent noises*

#11 Walluh

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 07:21 AM

Why would you want a worse Ice Ferret with the hitboxes of a Nova?

And it's also incredibly ugly.

#12 Ryokens leap

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:18 AM

View PostWalluh, on 05 December 2014 - 07:21 AM, said:

Why would you want a worse Ice Ferret with the hitboxes of a Nova?

And it's also incredibly ugly.


IMHO the uglier the better. I luv that Clan mechs are ugly and menacing, much like the US Apache attack chopper, ugly, menacing and strikes fear into the enemy. Most of the IS are dorky ie: Sparky.

#13 SaltBeef

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:21 AM

Want !

#14 Malcolm Vordermark

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:23 AM

View PostWalluh, on 05 December 2014 - 07:21 AM, said:

Why would you want a worse Ice Ferret with the hitboxes of a Nova?

And it's also incredibly ugly.


Jump jets and more hard points, mostly. I've stopped trying to guess how hit boxes will turn out on unreleased mechs.

#15 Tezcatli

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:25 AM

It's all coming out eventually. Well, hopefully.

#16 SaltBeef

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:25 AM

Cause........................... Explanations! :lol:

#17 DONTOR

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:30 AM

View PostWalluh, on 05 December 2014 - 07:21 AM, said:

Why would you want a worse Ice Ferret with the hitboxes of a Nova?

And it's also incredibly ugly.

It does look wierd / unique but that doesnt mean it will end up ugly.
Worse than the Ice Ferret? Well that doesnt mean much, as the Ice ferret is extremely effective in the right hands.

#18 Bulletsponge0

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:34 AM

I want the Viper F configuration

3 erml and 8 machine guns....


#19 AlmightyAeng

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 09:11 AM

View PostRyokens leap, on 05 December 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

IMHO the uglier the better. I luv that Clan mechs are ugly and menacing, much like the US Apache attack chopper, ugly, menacing and strikes fear into the enemy. Most of the IS are dorky ie: Sparky.


Really? A fair share of Clan mechs look like Hello Kitty Robots.

#20 Scratx

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 09:19 AM

Because they had to choose, and they chose Ice Ferret.

Had they chosen the other way, this thread would be about the Ice Ferret.





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