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[Satan n stuff]

BlackPhoenix01, on 22 December 2014 - 06:36 AM, said:

Aces Wild DOES intend to fight back the clans.... When we meet them halfway on Luthien....

Why does the Capellan Confederation still exist in that picture, surely it would fall before the snakes do?

Edited by Satan n stuff, 22 December 2014 - 11:13 AM.

[Deadfire]

StillRadioactive, on 22 December 2014 - 09:49 AM, said:

By the way, to any Steiner players who are reading this... know that mercenaries don't all choose their contracts at random. Take from that what you will.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Didn't you know about the "Wheel of Hiring" the MRBC has?

[AlmightyAeng]

CMetz, on 22 December 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

The 22nd accepts the call to arms against all aggressors, whether or not they care Clan scum. House Davion fights a war on all borders.

Well, not all borders. If you look at the map so far Davion and Steiner have played nice...that border hasn't changed at all. But Marik, the Kuritans and the Cappellan's keep trying to take a bite here and there out of both of us while we fight clanners.

And then they complain when we attack them back. Hahaha. So much DRAMA! The merc in me is lovin' it

Edited by Ghost Badger, 22 December 2014 - 11:53 AM.

[StillRadioactive]

Deadfire, on 22 December 2014 - 11:46 AM, said:

I have no idea what you are talking about. Didn't you know about the "Wheel of Hiring" the MRBC has?

Oh yeah, I have a picture of the wheel here...



Funny, now that I look at it... there's no purple. Huh.

[Alexander Steel]

To be fair in 3029 the FS didn't steal the world's from Marik. Hanse Davion sent fake chatter that suggested that Marik was next, and after seeing how many world's Laio and Kurita had lost, the Marik leader panicked and pulled all of his troops from the border world's around Terra to form a defensive line deeper in Marik space. Doh....

[AlmightyAeng]

Alexander Steel, on 22 December 2014 - 12:03 PM, said:

To be fair in 3029 the FS didn't steal the world's from Marik. Hanse Davion sent fake chatter that suggested that Marik was next, and after seeing how many world's Laio and Kurita had lost, the Marik leader panicked and pulled all of his troops from the border world's around Terra to form a defensive line deeper in Marik space. Doh....

To be fair what happened in 'Lore' has basically less than no bearing on anything happening in this game. Lol.

[Alexander Steel]

Sure but we've had people bring up the "lore" as claiming that those worlds were stolen. They weren't stolen so much as claimed after the cowardly Marik army abandoned them.

[IraqiWalker]

Stoneblade, on 22 December 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

I'm just enjoying the 1.5 hours before a ceasefire when Davion has the numbers to do a 60+ attack que on Liao worlds because Liao doesn't have that many active players.

Yeah, a lot of your guys' players witched to Steiner, and Kurita, to be closer to the invasion corridor.

Caine2112, on 22 December 2014 - 09:26 AM, said:

Wow!! Unbelievable how short Davion memory can be. Was it not a couple of decades ago (going with the current MW timeline for RP purposes) that the cowardly and insidious Davion dogs and their Lyran pets STOLE many planets along the Marik, Liao and Kurita borders around Terra, JUST so Davion and Steiner could touch cosmic fingertips together??

Marik, Liao and Kurita only fight for what belonged to each of us respectively a few short decades ago. Free your greedy grips on our planets that rightfully belong to our respective houses, and then we can focus on the clans as a whole.

OOC
From a non-RP standpoint though, Davion has had it very easy seeing as Liao players are only trickling back into the game, and Kurita is somewhat disorganized, but that's only from what I heard. Correct me if I'm wrong. We Mariks have good leadership in several unit leaders that coordinate quite well. Granted, we have some top-notch units gaining ground, and other units that are struggling, but overall, we're doing better than expected.

First, (Continuing with Davion Propaganda here) those worlds were not stolen. There was open aggression, and civilians in pain, in need of Davion protection. At least from the DMCS, and the CCAF fronts. As for the FWL planets. They were abandoned by their Marik overlords, and left at the mercy of any who would choose to prey upon them. The Commonwealth had no choice but to expend precious resources in order to provide safety and security for them.


(OOC: Kurita has it's own problems, but their units know how to hit hard, and can organize scary pushes. I remember in one of the nights we practically threw everything at them, kitchen sinks and all, to barely stop them from taking a planet they were dead set on.)

Ghost Badger, on 22 December 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

To be fair what happened in 'Lore' has basically less than no bearing on anything happening in this game. Lol.

We're having some fun with it here.

[Lord Ikka]

DCMS has the unenviable position of a five front war, against the two biggest IS factions, (Davion and Steiner) and the Clans Ghost Bear and Smoke Jaguar. No matter how coordinated our organized units are, and they are getting very organized, having four faction push you at the same time wears everyone thin. Our units really can only defend one, maybe two planets at a time while also trying to attack and win before ceasefire, so our pugs have to defend the rest; as any veteran Mechwarrior can tell you, organized teams best pugs 90% of the time. It sucks, but we will soldier on and fight to the end!

Oh, from an RP standpoint- Kentares happened two hundred years ago Davions, by an acknowledged madman. Many of the warriors who obeyed Jinjiro Kurita's orders eventually killed themselves, its very hard to get revenge on centuries-old ghosts. Look to your bloodthirsty Prince's actions at his wedding, causing the Fourth Succession War in which millions died, to see that your hands are stained with blood as dark as ours.

Edited by Lord Ikka, 23 December 2014 - 02:15 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

Lord Ikka, on 23 December 2014 - 02:08 AM, said:

DCMS has the unenviable position of a five front war, against the two biggest IS factions, (Davion and Steiner) and the Clans Ghost Bear and Smoke Jaguar. No matter how coordinated our organized units are, and they are getting very organized, having four faction push you at the same time wears everyone thin. Our units really can only defend one, maybe two planets at a time while also trying to attack and win before ceasefire, so our pugs have to defend the rest; as any veteran Mechwarrior can tell you, organized teams best pugs 90% of the time. It sucks, but we will soldier on and fight to the end!

Or you could stop attacking the Fedcom, and discuss a ceasefire?

Davion has a 3 front war, while also trying to help defend all IS planets from clan invasions. (Even in DCMS territory) Many of us would rather the IS either get conquered by Davion, or get absorbed into Davion, and many also believe that we can all work together to stop the clans.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 23 December 2014 - 02:15 AM.

[Lord Ikka]

IraqiWalker, on 23 December 2014 - 02:11 AM, said:

Or you could stop attacking the Fedcom, and discuss a ceasefire?

Davion has a 3 front war, while also trying to help defend all IS planets from clan invasions. (Even in DCMS territory) Many of us would rather the IS either get conquered by Davion, or get absorbed into Davion, and many also believe that we can all work together to stop the clans.

Considering that HK has lost planets to the FedCom on all but two days, and only won four planets from the FedCom, we're not the ones pushing this fight- you are.

[MischiefSC]

I dropped 12 matches against the Clans tonight; most on the FRR border, knocking Wolves down and making them eat dirt. Also pugged some matches on the DCMS/Jag border just to see what they were like. Both were wins. You're welcome.

Pug in any given match against the Clanners on *any* border world, Steiner, FRR or Combine, you're all but guaranteed to see the Sword and Sun standing in the defenders lineup. You'll likely see they make up the largest single faction represented. Not talking about dropping with your mates (obviously that stacks the results) but you drop pug and start counting flags of soldiers manning your borders against the Clans.

We just don't tend to make a big deal out of it. Still not going to, even after attempted slights like this. I get all the sour grapes and calling it 'ghost drops' or whatever but the reality is that we are actively and aggressively stomping faces on every world that gives us a spot on their line.

We may talk a lot of trash (some of us anyway) but you're only fooling yourself if you think there is not one thing we've shown we do consistently and well -

We win battles. Weight of history and the creeping gold color on the map stands to PROVE that if you drop and see the red, white and gold lining up against you, odds are you're not on the winning side.

Edited by MischiefSC, 23 December 2014 - 02:21 AM.

[Benjamin Davion]

Lord Ikka, on 23 December 2014 - 02:19 AM, said:

Considering that HK has lost planets to the FedCom on all but two days, and only won four planets from the FedCom, we're not the ones pushing this fight- you are.

Lies. Time and again, I proposed to my fellow officers that we avoid pushing into Kurita space, to allow you to fight the clans. Time and again, as we focused on our other borders, treasonous Snakes poured over our borders and ***** our worlds. Time and again we have been forced to retaliate, defending our worlds and counterstriking at yours to stretch your resources and buy ourselves breathing room. We've made overtures for peace, we've reached out for a truce, and been rebuffed or ignored.

So long as Kurita dogs cross our borders, we Davions stand ready to send you all back to the hell you crawled out of. I'll be standing side by side with Aces Wild. We'll meet the Clans half-way, at Luthien, and after we've been them there, we'll drink to your bones.

[IraqiWalker]

Lord Ikka, on 23 December 2014 - 02:19 AM, said:

Considering that HK has lost planets to the FedCom on all but two days, and only won four planets from the FedCom, we're not the ones pushing this fight- you are.

Once you attacked us, we attack back and don't stop until you ask us to stop, and negotiate. We still get attacks on our borders from DCMS units. Again, it's a matter of getting everyone organized, and negotiating a ceasefire.

Right now, your tri-partite alliance with FWL, and CC, is at risk of losing the CC part. The FWL is also not faring well. The Dragon is the only member holding solidly, and honestly, if you want there to be a three-part alliance, negotiating for peace, and coordinating to stomp the clans is a good way of ensuring that.

Benjamin Davion, on 23 December 2014 - 02:30 AM, said:

Lies. Time and again, I proposed to my fellow officers that we avoid pushing into Kurita space, to allow you to fight the clans. Time and again, as we focused on our other borders, treasonous Snakes poured over our borders and ***** our worlds. Time and again we have been forced to retaliate, defending our worlds and counterstriking at yours to stretch your resources and buy ourselves breathing room. We've made overtures for peace, we've reached out for a truce, and been rebuffed or ignored.

So long as Kurita dogs cross our borders, we Davions stand ready to send you all back to the hell you crawled out of. I'll be standing side by side with Aces Wild. We'll meet the Clans half-way, at Luthien, and after we've been them there, we'll drink to your bones.

Also, to both of you: Don't forget that our respective factions have little control over the PuGs, (not all attacks have been just PuG drops though. They are acceptable, however, since our factions don't have a ceasefire in effect right now) and we need to deal with them. In the case of the Fedcom Steiner and Davion units are allowed to defend and mop the floor with any attackers (if there are 12 of them), without attacking planets of the faction the offending pugs come from.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 23 December 2014 - 02:33 AM.

[MadC4t]

How about a Non-Agresson-Pact between Marik, Liao, FRR and Kurita? Like Comstar would like to have been installed in 3025?Then we would have enough Players to kick the Clans with there **** Maschines out of the IS.

[IraqiWalker]

MadC4t, on 23 December 2014 - 02:37 AM, said:

How about a Non-Agresson-Pact between Marik, Liao, FRR and Kurita? Like Comstar would like to have been installed in 3025?Then we would have enough Players to kick the Clans with there **** Maschines out of the IS.

Right now, Marik, Liao, and Kurita already have an alliance. Now we just need everyone else to get on board, and stop beating up on the FRR. I can't defend their planets from IS invasions. If we all stick together, and pull off the plan mentioned earlier where three factions attack the clans, while the other 3 defend the IS planets against invasion (we can even get them to rotate, so people don't get bored. Or we get extra specialized with factions that are Defense specialists, and Offense specialists) That would allow us to start really kicking the clans around.

[Lord Ikka]

Benjamin Davion, on 23 December 2014 - 02:30 AM, said:

Lies. Time and again, I proposed to my fellow officers that we avoid pushing into Kurita space, to allow you to fight the clans. Time and again, as we focused on our other borders, treasonous Snakes poured over our borders and ***** our worlds. Time and again we have been forced to retaliate, defending our worlds and counterstriking at yours to stretch your resources and buy ourselves breathing room. We've made overtures for peace, we've reached out for a truce, and been rebuffed or ignored.

So long as Kurita dogs cross our borders, we Davions stand ready to send you all back to the hell you crawled out of. I'll be standing side by side with Aces Wild. We'll meet the Clans half-way, at Luthien, and after we've been them there, we'll drink to your bones.

First off, the CW map doesn't lie- FedCom has taken more of DC space than we have yours, especially in the last few days where we haven't taken a single FedCom world.

Second, where are these overtures of a cease fire? Considering that I'm a unit rep/diploma with the house-kurita.enjin.com DCMS Council of organized units and haven't heard anything about it is troubling. I worked hard to get the current DCMS/FRR ceasefire, so I'm having a hard time believing that these overtures were made without anyone in the council knowing it. The only ceasefire request we've received from any Davion is one for a holiday truce for all IS.

[Lord Ikka]

IraqiWalker, on 23 December 2014 - 02:47 AM, said:

Right now, Marik, Liao, and Kurita already have an alliance. Now we just need everyone else to get on board, and stop beating up on the FRR. I can't defend their planets from IS invasions. If we all stick together, and pull off the plan mentioned earlier where three factions attack the clans, while the other 3 defend the IS planets against invasion (we can even get them to rotate, so people don't get bored. Or we get extra specialized with factions that are Defense specialists, and Offense specialists) That would allow us to start really kicking the clans around.

As far as I know these are the current Faction alliances/ceasefires- Marik/Liao, Kurita/FRR, Ghost Bear/Wolf, Steiner/Wolf, Davion/Steiner, Steiner/FRR (attempted but was rejected by Steiner units).

Edited by Lord Ikka, 23 December 2014 - 02:52 AM.

[MadC4t]

IraqiWalker, on 23 December 2014 - 02:47 AM, said:

Right now, Marik, Liao, and Kurita already have an alliance. Now we just need everyone else to get on board, and stop beating up on the FRR. I can't defend their planets from IS invasions. If we all stick together, and pull off the plan mentioned earlier where three factions attack the clans, while the other 3 defend the IS planets against invasion (we can even get them to rotate, so people don't get bored. Or we get extra specialized with factions that are Defense specialists, and Offense specialists) That would allow us to start really kicking the clans around.

I only want my 3 Planets back to Kurita which the "CI" steal from us (we have a Pact with FRR...)
But dropping vs the Clans is not really fair... yesterday i was in a match vs 8 ******* Dire Wolfes... 8!!! No Chance.
The Clans are to strong at 12 vs 12. 10 vs 12 would be fair.

[IraqiWalker]

Lord Ikka, on 23 December 2014 - 02:48 AM, said:

First off, the CW map doesn't lie- FedCom has taken more of DC space than we have yours, especially in the last few days where we haven't taken a single FedCom world.

Second, where are these overtures of a cease fire? Considering that I'm a unit rep/diploma with the house-kurita.enjin.com DCMS Council of organized units and haven't heard anything about it is troubling. I worked hard to get the current DCMS/FRR ceasefire, so I'm having a hard time believing that these overtures were made without anyone in the council knowing it. The only ceasefire request we've received from any Davion is one for a holiday truce for all IS.

No overtures were made. He's talking about several units trying to make an effort to stay out of DCMS/AFFS border, but having to be dragged back in to defend it.

As for overtures of a ceasefire. Why not approach Davion? I'm a Davion pilot suggesting that you could toss a ceasefire offer the way of our leaders, and see what the Fedcom's response is. Davion right now is in a comfortable position, so we can keep the war going for a long time. However, I don't think the Davion, or even Fedcom command would be immediately and stubbornly opposed to a ceasefire with the other factions (although I gotta say, I really want to get Capella, Marik, and Benjamin for HHoD. Bear in mind, that I speak for no units, and my intentions, and dreams are just those. Mine, not representative of my unit, or my faction(s))

Lord Ikka, on 23 December 2014 - 02:51 AM, said:

As far as I know these are the current Faction alliances/ceasefires- Marik/Liao, Kurita/FRR, Ghost Bear/Wolf, Steiner/Wolf, Davion/Steiner, Steiner/FRR (attempted but was rejected by Steiner units).

I was pretty sure Marik, Liao, and Kurita had a three way alliance going. I apologize if I am mistaken.

MadC4t, on 23 December 2014 - 02:53 AM, said:

I only want my 3 Planets back to Kurita which the "CI" steal from us (we have a Pact with FRR...)
But dropping vs the Clans is not really fair... yesterday i was in a match vs 8 ******* Dire Wolfes... 8!!! No Chance.
The Clans are to strong at 12 vs 12. 10 vs 12 would be fair.

Honestly, there are ways of dealing with them, even when they do something this silly. Which map was it?