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[Carpenocturn]

6 thunderbolts with 4 ERLL at least in the first wave + module + Pilot skill buff = out range, more front end damage and less duration than clan ERLL

http://i.imgur.com/QaLDDsg.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/fHcn8Ep.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/D762QHT.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/VkG8cbM.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/Cmg2bDw.jpg?1

Once that got old and they'd killed several of us they switched to rapid fire AC5 Dragons and TBolts.

Good news is I have an IS account so I'm getting the drop deck together to enjoy the IS tech advantage.

[dervishx5]

The jig is up boys.

[Richter Kerensky]

Clanner fails to understand concept of "defense", sulks by indulging in favorite pastime of banging rocks together and screaming.

[The Droid]

Why is it always ghost bear clanners who make these threads?

[xengk]

[Caustic Canid]

xengk, on 25 February 2015 - 01:00 AM, said:

Dat framerate.
Was that gif rendered with the cry engine?

[zortesh]

Oh noes, your telling me someone decided massed snipers was a good way to win? oh dear god no!

Oh wait people have been doing that since forever.

You can actually get more damage and total range out of a clanmech with targeting and module, since is erll caps at 1500 and clan erll doesn't.

[Insects]

zortesh, on 25 February 2015 - 02:34 AM, said:

You can actually get more damage and total range out of a clanmech with targeting and module, since is erll caps at 1500 and clan erll doesn't.

Stop ruining this QQ with your facts...

[o0Marduk0o]

The Droid, on 25 February 2015 - 12:04 AM, said:

Why is it always ghost bear clanners who make these threads?

uhm...the OP is just a fake bear.

[zudukai]

so, what are you trying to say here?

[Rushin Roulette]

Is this clan Ghost bear or clan Ghost beer? Becasue just about every QQ thread seems to come from them... there must be more than enough tears to brew a few vats of really salty beer by now,

I guess thats what you get with too many test tubes and too little;

[zudukai]

IIRC, they have the most pugs in a clan faction for what it's worth.

Edited by zudukai, 25 February 2015 - 02:57 AM.

[zortesh]

joelmuzz, on 25 February 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

Stop ruining this QQ with your facts...

You know you're right.

I should get into character for a qq thread.

NERF DIS, LASERZ BE OUT-RANGING MY FLAMERS SO NOT FAIR NERF EVERYTHING!

[Reitmeier]

I blame NS for that!

[zudukai]

ARKB and NS are both doing this to the limit. they apperently like disco parties with psychedelics.

Spoiler

[Tahribator]

Let's compare apples with apples shall we?

• TDR-5S with 3 (not 4) ERLL + ERLL range 5 module + 12.5% bonus range quirk has ERLL range of 784 meters.
  
• HBR-PRIME with 3 C-ERLL + TC MK 5 + C-ERLL range 5 module has C-ERLL range of 902.8 meters.

Both 'Mechs have 20DHS, but the HBR also has ECM. If you forgo the TC5, you can put 25DHS in the Hellbringer and still have a range of 814 meters. Heck, even the KFX build (with range 5 module) you posted has better range than the 5S, 814 vs 784 meters.

You my friend, you're the worst kind of whiner. The one who doesn't even do his homework and just comes to pollute the forums.

Edited by Tahribator, 25 February 2015 - 03:37 AM.

[Vassago Rain]

Caustic Canid, on 25 February 2015 - 02:30 AM, said:

Dat framerate.
Was that gif rendered with the cry engine?

Maybe.

[Wingbreaker]

Realtalk: The thunderbolt isn't the issue, currently due to the dual changes of quirks and Ghost Heat being relaxed to 3, the stalker 4N is rolling six larges in two groups of three. Each group of three is putting out a pretty stunning 8.03 (IIRC, did the math last night) dps. That's each group, not all six.

So yes, there is actually something quite broken here.

It's just not what the op thinks it is.

When shenanigans occur, you can be sure **** is broken. And this is broken hard.

Edited by Wingbreaker, 25 February 2015 - 04:25 AM.

[beerandasmoke]

Wingbreaker, on 25 February 2015 - 04:24 AM, said:

Realtalk: The thunderbolt isn't the issue, currently due to the dual changes of quirks and Ghost Heat being relaxed to 3, the stalker 4N is rolling six larges in two groups of three. Each group of three is putting out a pretty stunning 8.03 (IIRC, did the math last night) dps. That's each group, not all six.

So yes, there is actually something quite broken here.

It's just not what the op thinks it is.

When shenanigans occur, you can be sure **** is broken. And this is broken hard.

We just got the hell beat out of the 9S and the 6K and now you want the 4N nerfed as well? Seriously? Its not going to happen because Russ says the Clans are up next for the nerf bat. Sorry I meant "quirks."

[Wingbreaker]

beerandasmoke, on 25 February 2015 - 04:48 AM, said:

We just got the hell beat out of the 9S and the 6K and now you want the 4N nerfed as well? Seriously? Its not going to happen because Russ says the Clans are up next for the nerf bat. Sorry I meant "quirks."

You seem to be missing the point that it is a combination of the quirks to the 4N and the GH relaxation, creating a perfect storm of DPS.

For a system that is supposed to create greater diversity in chassis usage, this has twice created 12-mans of the same homogenous build.

So, based on the history of quirks, yes it's going to get nerfed.

Edited by Wingbreaker, 25 February 2015 - 05:05 AM.