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[Burktross]

30 points should not be a difficult or frustrating challenge in anything but time required. Not for any mech. Not for anyone.
I'm usually the last person to say "learn to play," but seriously.

300 damage, not counting all the other sources of points.

You know the Pirate's bane? I put 2 medlas and 2 smallas on it.
I got 18/20 of my light matches in it. Un-elited
A mere couple were non qualifying.

Hell, other 30pt challenges (halloween / christmas) have been easy for the new people I've just started introducing to MWO

[Zookeeper Dan]

I think that has to be one of the most frustrating things. I know it should be easy. I think the main problem is that I don't adjust my play over the weekend. I like being aggressive so I usually bite off more than I can chew. At my ELO especially on the weekend you are definately rewarded for NOT being aggressive.

Today I had a match on river city that was 5 minutes of 4 mechs exchanging LRM fire. I got bored and poked around the corner in a brawler I had just starter piloting and was hit by 6 heavies and assults. No 30 points that game.

I'm going to switch to mechs I'm more familiar with and have better range and hopefully those 30 points will come a lot easier!

[Pjwned]

Unless you rush in and die horribly (or the rest of your team dies and you get rushed) and your team loses, it's not difficult in the least to get 30 match score; hell I've had matches where I did really poorly and thought "no way this will qualify" and it did qualify anyways.

If you can't get 30 match score consistently then you really need to think about revising your strategy and what mech & equipment you use, because you're clearly missing something.

Danth Reduviid, on 14 March 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

I think that has to be one of the most frustrating things. I know it should be easy. I think the main problem is that I don't adjust my play over the weekend. I like being aggressive so I usually bite off more than I can chew. At my ELO especially on the weekend you are definately rewarded for NOT being aggressive.

Today I had a match on river city that was 5 minutes of 4 mechs exchanging LRM fire. I got bored and poked around the corner in a brawler I had just starter piloting and was hit by 6 heavies and assults. No 30 points that game.

I'm going to switch to mechs I'm more familiar with and have better range and hopefully those 30 points will come a lot easier!

Well, it's actually understandable to get bad matches on River City because it's a terrible map.

Edited by Pjwned, 14 March 2015 - 03:38 PM.

[stjobe]

Danth Reduviid, on 14 March 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

I'm going to switch to mechs I'm more familiar with and have better range and hopefully those 30 points will come a lot easier!

Good luck, and remember that if you have a Hero, a Phoenix, Resistance, Invasion, or Loyalty 'mech, it earns 150,000 instead of 100,000 per 30-point+ match.

Edit: (yes, Founders, Gold, and Sarah 'mechs too, but he's unlikely to have those).

Edited by stjobe, 14 March 2015 - 03:38 PM.

[LordKnightFandragon]

I find this to be a fairly easy challenge.

Ive gotten an update in every game ive played so far, 67, 72 for publand and in excess of 150 in CW, and I get a glorious 20 FPS in that mode. 30 and 80 isnt that hard to get in their respective modes. All you have to do is play slower, shoot what you can and try to survive a bit. Dont be the first one dead lol.

[Divine Retribution]

I guess they should make the next truly for performance rather than pass/fail and hope it reduces complaints further.

2,000 C-Bills per match score, 3,000 C-Bills per match score in a hero mech would need a match score of 50 to achieve the rewards of this weekend. Cap it at some random number (20 million?). No Wins required for payout, no kills required for payout, nothing required for payout. Then all PGI has to worry about are complaints on how match score is calculated or random scrubs doing some stupid kamikaze rushes/afk drops for almost no reward.

It would even incentivize CW a little bit; 400+ match score in a 20 minute match is a good payday and gen rushers/ghost droppers can get little to nothing as a bonus...

Edited by Divine Retribution, 14 March 2015 - 04:15 PM.

[Insects]

30 points is easy, less should only happen if you are unlucky enough to die instantly in a light.
Something really needs to change in your gameplay if that is a struggle.

[Taffer]

I don't want to sound elitist or anything, but 30 match score is pretty easy to get. This is one of the best events I've seen.

[Zookeeper Dan]

Well, I switched mechs and except for the 0-12 loss, and the 1-12 loss I'm above 30 every match. And in the skunked match I was only 4 points short. You know it's going to be bad when 2 members of your lance starts going the opposite direction of the rest of the team. I stayed with the only group to stay together, but it was 1 medium and 4 lights that got swarmed once everyone else was dead. Gotta love the bottom of the ELO. Haha.

[Spheroid]

Can you list your mechs? If I knew what you where playing I could comment.

Edited by Spheroid, 14 March 2015 - 05:08 PM.

[Mycrus]

Danth Reduviid, on 14 March 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

I was really happy to hear that this challenge was based on match score instead of kills, deaths, and/or wins.

But the reality of this challenge has been you need to do okay on a winning team to qualify. If I have an average game and my team wins, I'm above 30 points. If I'm below average or my team loses I don't qualify.

Which brings up the fact of who is this challenge for? C-Bills are always nice, but if you're a good enough pilot the extra money is helpful, but you're probably earning more by just playing. If you're in my boat where every CB counts, you get frustrated having to play a lot of matches and then stare at a 29 point score. Or know that because the Raven was able to chase down a disconnected player before you could even help with the kill your match didn't qualify.

I think this type of challenge has a lot of potential, but I just wish it was step based instead of all or nothing. For example:
15 points - $25,000
30 points - $75.000
45 points - $125,000
Maximum $2,000,000 per weight class.

L2p & git gud.

i would rather they made a straight up double cbill weekend... to make it "fair" to the scrubs they placed a 30 pt threshold and a fix reward...

30 pts is ridiculously easy to get.. go aggro and lead the charge

[Zookeeper Dan]

I can't link right now but I was doing horrible in a Cent AH set up like on Metamechs. I was unable to get to a position close enough to brawl without leaving the rest of my team behind. I feel much better in a mech with more maneuverability.

I switched to my Cicada 2A with 5 ml's where the speed helps me strike and get away and my Shadowhawks with jump jets. A 2K with 300XL, 3 ERLL and 3 SSRM2. A 2H with 255 XL, 2AC5, and 3LRM5. A 2D2 with a 275 standard, AC20, and 2 SRM4. (Sorry I can't link to Smurfy's because I'm on my phone.)

Like I said I do much better in mobile mechs.

[Soy]

A match score of 30.

For free extra in-game currency.

Is frustrating.

I just don't even.

I swear, the challenge could be to heat up a ******* bowl of ramen and some people would manage to get 3rd degree burns in the process and sue PGI or something.

[InspectorG]

Hate to break it to you, but this is one of the more friendly events.

The 50 points AND A WIN are just a coin flip in a Pug.

I mean, i was getting rewards in my unbasic'd SHS Stalkers.
You still get rabbit runs, but you can vulture if you know what you are doing.

[KraftySOT]

Danth Reduviid, on 14 March 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

So saying that you can get 30 points with your eyes closed is not the case for a sizable number of players.

Because in reality, most people are bad. Its like any thing else in the world. Lets say...basketball. You have millions of people around the world playing basketball. Most of them are really bad at it. A few people are good at it. Fewer still are great. A tiny fraction of all the people who will ever play basketball living and dead, will be really, really, really, really great at it.

At least this should open up peoples eyes to how bad most of the playerbase actually is. Not even bringing space rich vs space poor into it.


Its like kids playing tee ball in the park on a sunday, vs MLB all stars.

[Wild Hamster]

U must be kidding right OP? Compared to the past two events, this is a cakewalk. Even taking my underpowered Ember into a losing match and throwing some pewpew around yields me 30 pts

[Shatara]

I've had a few frustrating 29-point games myself, but really, 30 is pretty much a gimmie. Anything less than 20 is pushing towards 'AFK' territory.

[Zoid]

We just have to complain about something don't we....

If you're having that much trouble, just drop an arty every round. Not hard to get 150 damage with one of those and that's half what you need. Still get 60k then for each match.



The ONE and only thing that would be nicer about this challenge is if was a cumulative 600 match score instead of 30 per game, but we know they want us playing as many games as possible so that doesn't make sense from PGI's viewpoint. This is really about as good as you can get with a challenge.


Alternate strategy:
Find someone spamming Gauss on the other side and take out wherever the rifle is. That should give you 20 points by itself due to the damage done and component destruction.

Edited by Zoid, 14 March 2015 - 06:03 PM.

[MechWarrior5152251]

You have to be pretty bad to fail to get 30 points....Of course the ease of getting the reward is offset by the tiny size of the reward 100k Cbills is not enough to get me to play more than a couple of matches...

[Zookeeper Dan]

KraftySOT, on 14 March 2015 - 05:46 PM, said:

Because in reality, most people are bad. Its like any thing else in the world. Lets say...basketball. You have millions of people around the world playing basketball. Most of them are really bad at it. A few people are good at it. Fewer still are great. A tiny fraction of all the people who will ever play basketball living and dead, will be really, really, really, really great at it.

At least this should open up peoples eyes to how bad most of the playerbase actually is. Not even bringing space rich vs space poor into it.


Its like kids playing tee ball in the park on a sunday, vs MLB all stars.

Exactly. I can tell you as hard as this game is and as bad as I am the only reason I'm putting the effort into getting better is because I've been playing Battletech for over 25 years. There is nothing in the game to help players improve except for the community on the forums. VOIP is a step in the right direction, but I've only heard 1 person use it all weekend. Other than that you just have to grind grind grind.