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#1 Xavier

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 01:05 PM

Please we have had real problems over the last couple weeks a battles lingering on planets long after the planet is secure. This has forced some of the organized units to have to waste additional drops on that planet that should have been allocated to the next planet.

once a planet goes above 75% quit dropping on that planet and move onto the next objective. This is -MS- general policy and we coordinate with SWOL and CWI. We need to take advantage of the number of pilots that wolf can field to ensure we can capture planets fast.

Wolf has an attack lane into every house and faction except Liao. If as a solo pilot you are not sure what the next target is please ask in the game faction chat where you should head next. EXECUTOR, BLUEDUCK, ANTONIUS, or one if the other leaders will inform you of the factions next goal.

To ALL wolf PUGS please help us focus our attacks where they matter the most. If you have any questions please contact one of the WOLF factions for more information.

#2 QueenBlade

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 01:07 PM

In other words people, MS doesn't want to have to compete for victory points on the planet when you keep dropping on it. If you move to the next planet it will allow them to tag more planets.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 01:48 PM

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 03:20 PM

But but.... I want to attack the planet at a 100%!!!!!!

I've been spamming the faction chat as much as possible, sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.

80% is the cutoff threshold people; move onto another planet when we get it there.

View PostQueenBlade, on 04 July 2015 - 01:07 PM, said:

In other words people, MS doesn't want to have to compete for victory points on the planet when you keep dropping on it. If you move to the next planet it will allow them to tag more planets.


This contest sucks and most of us don't like dangly crap in our cockpits obstructing our view. SWOL hired MS for a reason and that is the conquest of Terra.

The devs can keep their rewards, I want the numbers to completely surround earth.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 03:22 PM

View PostQueenBlade, on 04 July 2015 - 01:07 PM, said:

In other words people, MS doesn't want to have to compete for victory points on the planet when you keep dropping on it. If you move to the next planet it will allow them to tag more planets.


Just because this is exactly what tends to happen to every planet we attack, doesn't mean it's some grand conspiracy to deny friendly units planet tags, does it?

Wait... DOES IT?!

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 03:28 PM

View PostBlueduck, on 04 July 2015 - 03:20 PM, said:

But but.... I want to attack the planet at a 100%!!!!!!

I've been spamming the faction chat as much as possible, sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.

80% is the cutoff threshold people; move onto another planet when we get it there.



This contest sucks and most of us don't like dangly crap in our cockpits obstructing our view. SWOL hired MS for a reason and that is the conquest of Terra.

The devs can keep their rewards, I want the numbers to completely surround earth.


Delta Galaxy was dropping today first on the Davion planet. After it was at above 53% and still doing good we switched to the Marik planet (Conaugh or something like that), because it was going down from 30 to zero. NS and VRGD was stomping the wolf pugs over there hard. At the end wolfs only brought it up to 46 percent :unsure:

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 03:29 PM

Just have fun and do what you want. Map will be reset soon enough probably.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 05:40 PM

View PostQueenBlade, on 04 July 2015 - 01:07 PM, said:

In other words people, MS doesn't want to have to compete for victory points on the planet when you keep dropping on it. If you move to the next planet it will allow them to tag more planets.


No what it means is that we want wolf to be as effective as possible. No reading between the lines required. We are trying to coordinate individual efforts as much as possible and make them effective. Terra is our goal this competition is just a side note. By the way WOLF first clan faction to open both a direct Davion and marik attack lane........

Edited by Xavier, 04 July 2015 - 05:43 PM.


#9 Pat Kell

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 09:36 AM

You have reached Terra, your goal has been achieved, this event is just a side note yet you have been telling your members to not defend planets being attacked by CJF. You can try to convince people all you want that you don't care about this event but your actions prove otherwise. Talk tactics all you want but the shame of running from fights with our faction is up for everyone to see and your units will be tainted with this shame for a long time to come. OOOO we're so impressed that the PGI algorithm handed your faction a near bee line trajectory to Terra and beyond but all of us know that you achieved it by running from an enemy that could put up a fight.

Edited by Pat Kell, 05 July 2015 - 09:37 AM.


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 10:25 AM

So, are you saying that Jade Falcon is the only faction that can put up a fight? Because Clan Wolf (and of course MS, since you were referring directly to them) has borders with everyone except Liao, and so we've fought just about everyone in the game, not just Steiner and the occasional Ras.

#11 QueenBlade

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:12 AM

28 ghost drops later and two claimed Clan Wolf planets says otherwise...

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:33 AM

View PostPat Kell, on 05 July 2015 - 09:36 AM, said:

You have reached Terra, your goal has been achieved, this event is just a side note yet you have been telling your members to not defend planets being attacked by CJF. You can try to convince people all you want that you don't care about this event but your actions prove otherwise. Talk tactics all you want but the shame of running from fights with our faction is up for everyone to see and your units will be tainted with this shame for a long time to come. OOOO we're so impressed that the PGI algorithm handed your faction a near bee line trajectory to Terra and beyond but all of us know that you achieved it by running from an enemy that could put up a fight.


Terra First, Jade Turkey's second. :P

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 12:28 PM

^^^ If find this Interesting considering "terra" is not even an event

there is however this going on right now...
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/202673-community-warfare-hardcore-unit-event/

hind sight maybe you guys just gave up

the only way to make yourselves feel better about the whole situation is to say "our goal was terra all along"

#14 Pat Kell

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 12:48 PM

Again...you have reached Terra...

And no, I am not saying that we are the only faction that can put up a fight, I am saying that some units ran from a fight that was presented to them and are trying to hide behind that decision with claims of tactics and reaching Terra when that goal had already been achieved so it's very clear to most people why you made the decision you did. Anyone willing to watch the Twitch feed that was posted can hear it said first hand.

Also, we have fought teams from every faction in the game. Don't think that just because we don't have a border with Davion doesn't mean that they haven't come to try and help Steiner out. That's a ridiculous argument that is being given in an effort to hide the fact that certain units are actively avoiding the CJF front. Claim what you want about that but everyone knows why that is being done now. It's sad state of affairs when we can attack Steiner and get matches all night long even after the planet is at 100% yet if we attack any other Clan, it's long wait times and probably 50% ghost drops minimum.

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 01:22 PM

View PostPat Kell, on 05 July 2015 - 12:48 PM, said:

Again...you have reached Terra...

And no, I am not saying that we are the only faction that can put up a fight, I am saying that some units ran from a fight that was presented to them and are trying to hide behind that decision with claims of tactics and reaching Terra when that goal had already been achieved so it's very clear to most people why you made the decision you did. Anyone willing to watch the Twitch feed that was posted can hear it said first hand.

Also, we have fought teams from every faction in the game. Don't think that just because we don't have a border with Davion doesn't mean that they haven't come to try and help Steiner out. That's a ridiculous argument that is being given in an effort to hide the fact that certain units are actively avoiding the CJF front. Claim what you want about that but everyone knows why that is being done now. It's sad state of affairs when we can attack Steiner and get matches all night long even after the planet is at 100% yet if we attack any other Clan, it's long wait times and probably 50% ghost drops minimum.

Not to defend any pathetic excuses that have been thrown about, but if you look at it from the Wolves side do you think it would be very different if CJF was in their position? They have attack lanes to pretty much all of the IS, if we had similar attack lanes do you think we would bother to defend against Clan attacks? I don't think we would go as far as to pressure any one not to defend our worlds but I also don't think it would be that different than not defending at all. Basically, CJF may have it rough and the Wolves definitely have it easy, but both sides are acting pretty rationally.

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 04:09 PM

View PostFlutterguy, on 05 July 2015 - 01:22 PM, said:

Not to defend any pathetic excuses that have been thrown about, but if you look at it from the Wolves side do you think it would be very different if CJF was in their position? They have attack lanes to pretty much all of the IS, if we had similar attack lanes do you think we would bother to defend against Clan attacks? I don't think we would go as far as to pressure any one not to defend our worlds but I also don't think it would be that different than not defending at all. Basically, CJF may have it rough and the Wolves definitely have it easy, but both sides are acting pretty rationally.


Wow finally a Jade Falcon who uses his brain and is speaking the truth. Cheers man!

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 04:33 PM

You are absolutely correct in everything you say flutter including the part where we wouldn't be telling other units not to defend against attacks if that is what they chose to do, which is exactly what a certain unit in CW has been doing. I totally agree with their tactic but I don't like it very much when people come on the forums claiming one thing and doing another.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:31 PM

On the other hand, you could state quite correctly that Clan Wolf loyalist units outperformed ALL Jade Falcon units except for the mercs 228 during the event, and the top two Wolf units outperformed the entire top 5 Jade units... while simultaneously taking ground and expanding our borders surrounding Terra against some of the toughest fighting the IS could put up.

Once the event exploit was found, there was no way that Wolf units were going to be able to keep up with Jade Falcon in planets taken, though MS was vastly in the lead before the exploit and managed to hold onto 3rd overall despite severe handicap. They vastly outperformed the planetary #2 Jade unit by a wide margin, only showing that planetary totals didn't reflect any particular skill, investment, or strategic advantage in Jade units.

Frankly, while Wolf units were battling it out for planets and territory on the IS front lines around Terra, Jade was busy picking carrion in the rear. Hardly an accomplishment worthy of praise. All of those landing beacons must have been terrifying. Perhaps Jade Falcon should look into changing its totem to the Jade Vulture.

Wolf's goal is Terra. The timing of the event coincided with our final push to surround and encapsulate the birth world. Given the choice to participate fully in an event with no real reward and exploitable mechanics or take and hold territory around Terra at all costs, we chose Terra. And despite this, we did extremely well overall in the event anyway.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:47 PM

View PostScarecrowES, on 06 July 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

On the other hand, you could state quite correctly that Clan Wolf loyalist units outperformed ALL Jade Falcon units except for the mercs 228 during the event, and the top two Wolf units outperformed the entire top 5 Jade units... while simultaneously taking ground and expanding our borders surrounding Terra against some of the toughest fighting the IS could put up.

Once the event exploit was found, there was no way that Wolf units were going to be able to keep up with Jade Falcon in planets taken, though MS was vastly in the lead before the exploit and managed to hold onto 3rd overall despite severe handicap. They vastly outperformed the planetary #2 Jade unit by a wide margin, only showing that planetary totals didn't reflect any particular skill, investment, or strategic advantage in Jade units.

Frankly, while Wolf units were battling it out for planets and territory on the IS front lines around Terra, Jade was busy picking carrion in the rear. Hardly an accomplishment worthy of praise. All of those landing beacons must have been terrifying. Perhaps Jade Falcon should look into changing its totem to the Jade Vulture.

Wolf's goal is Terra. The timing of the event coincided with our final push to surround and encapsulate the birth world. Given the choice to participate fully in an event with no real reward and exploitable mechanics or take and hold territory around Terra at all costs, we chose Terra. And despite this, we did extremely well overall in the event anyway.

Still never missing an opportunity to show off your ignorance how attacking in CW works. Hint: when we attack a faction we do not get to choose which planet in that faction we get to attack. Likewise we do not choose to have ghost drops that in entirely the hands of the defenders (Clan Wolf). And if you are looking for accomplishments not worthy of praise the crown jewel for that dubious honor is still goes to Clan Wolf being able to trip and fall on top of Terra.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 05:17 PM

View PostScarecrowES, on 06 July 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

Frankly, while Wolf units were battling it out for planets and territory on the IS front lines around Terra, Jade was busy picking carrion in the rear. Hardly an accomplishment worthy of praise. All of those landing beacons must have been terrifying. Perhaps Jade Falcon should look into changing its totem to the Jade Vulture.


Basicly what you are saying is while Clan Wolf's many 400+ units were battling unorganized IS pug stomp wins all the while dodging fights along the CJF border to slow CJF's planet gain by giving them nothing but ghost drops. Yea if I had Clan Wolf's attack pattern I'd be doing better in the event as well. How hard it must have been for you guys allowed to get 5-6 planet attacks per ceasefire and always getting drops because IS doesn't dodge fights.

Edited by DemonicD3, 06 July 2015 - 05:17 PM.






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