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This Week Russ Is Asking What We'd Like To See For Clan Wave 4 Pack Omnis Circa 3053


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#1 0bsidion

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:04 PM

Pretty much all my favorites are already in, so I'm not sure. I'd say the Naga, but Arrow IV takes that out. Blood Asp is 7 years in the future. Maybe the Woodsman, but meh. Maybe Mongrel?


The Lupus might actually be decent/good. 60 tonner with ES/FF, balanced loadouts possible, ECM, removable JJs, Roughly 26 tons of podspace.

For a light they could do Fire Falcon. 130 Kph. Missiles, energy galore, even ballistic. Looks like a pretty decent 25 tonner, kinda looks like it does everything right the Mist Lynx got wrong, except maybe lack of ECM.

I'm sure everyone else has some ideas.

Edited by 0bsidion, 11 January 2016 - 01:17 PM.


#2 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:11 PM

Okay.

Fire Moth (need 20 tonner)
Viper (need 40 tonner)
Night Gyr
Kingfisher (yeah it's a standard engine Omni but it goes 70 kph with tweak, has endo and ferro so has respectable tonnage and can sword and board. Also the F variant has ECM along with some future tech, future tech could be modified to current tech so the Clanner can get their ECM assault.)

Please don't say Turkina folks, it's just a Dire that isn't as good.

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:15 PM

hellion, huntsman, night gyr, turkina/naga/kingfisher

or

phantom, huntsman, night gyr, turkina/naga/kingfisher

if they change the stock loadout on the turkina (i.e. give it a bigger engine so it goes at least 60) then id take that, otherwise kingfisher if it needs to be in "timeline". If not, madcat mk ii. I know its not an omni, but itd fit a pack perfectly.

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:18 PM

Link to where he's asking?

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:20 PM

his twitter.

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:23 PM

Nobody wants the Piranha to fill in for lights?

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:29 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 11 January 2016 - 01:11 PM, said:

Okay.

Fire Moth (need 20 tonner)
Viper (need 40 tonner)
Night Gyr
Kingfisher (yeah it's a standard engine Omni but it goes 70 kph with tweak, has endo and ferro so has respectable tonnage and can sword and board. Also the F variant has ECM along with some future tech, future tech could be modified to current tech so the Clanner can get their ECM assault.)

Please don't say Turkina folks, it's just a Dire that isn't as good.

The Turkina would be flat out awful in MWO. Something less maneuverable than the Dire Wolf, with nothing to show for it. Yay.

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:31 PM

View PostPalor, on 11 January 2016 - 01:23 PM, said:

Nobody wants the Piranha to fill in for lights?

I do...
Piranha
Phantom
Night Gyr
Bane

I'd prefer the Vapor Eagle over the Phantom, but I do think the 40 tonner gap would then annoy me.

#9 Damocles

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:32 PM

View PostPalor, on 11 January 2016 - 01:23 PM, said:

Nobody wants the Piranha to fill in for lights?


Omnimechs

My take;
Fire Falcon (would prefer Moth but i dont think they can handle the speed still)
Huntsman (alt: Mongrel)
Night Gyr
Kingfisher

Leavin out the Turkey or else the pack seems too much for CJF (I know nobody cares about factions bla bla)
This mix above is at least 50/50 SJ/JF.
Add in some bonus mech like Phantom or Pouncer to add the CW flavor.

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:32 PM

View Postpbiggz, on 11 January 2016 - 01:15 PM, said:

hellion, huntsman, night gyr, turkina/naga/kingfisher

or

phantom, huntsman, night gyr, turkina/naga/kingfisher

if they change the stock loadout on the turkina (i.e. give it a bigger engine so it goes at least 60) then id take that, otherwise kingfisher if it needs to be in "timeline". If not, madcat mk ii. I know its not an omni, but itd fit a pack perfectly.


I'm not sure about the Huntsman. A) it looks weird and B ) 90 +% firepower in the arms. Other than that it might be OK.

The Phantom is basically another over-engined medium like the Ice Ferret. Sure, ECM is nice, but I don't think it'll make up for having the podspace of a light.

#11 martian

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:34 PM

Some suggestions that chatched my eye:

Light
Fire Falcon

Medium
Stooping Hawk - slower than Ryoken, but with optional Jump Jets
Black Lanner - faster than the Ryoken and with ECM suite

Heavy
Night Gyr - slower than the Mad Cat, but with ample pod space

Assault
Kingfisher - very durable Clan Assault

And before you ask: Yes, I know that some of them would not probably interesting for some players that favor !Meta-'Mechs". Posted Image

#12 Dread Render

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:34 PM

Nova Cat...
That's Clan I think.

#13 Wintersdark

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:34 PM

Piranha, Huntsman, Night Gyr, and ... ugh.Kingfisher? STD360 on a Clam Omni? Gross. Naga? Needs Arrows.

There's really no decent timeline appropriate Omni assaults that aren't really bad.

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:37 PM

View PostWintersdark, on 11 January 2016 - 01:34 PM, said:

Piranha, Huntsman, Night Gyr, and ... ugh.Kingfisher? STD360 on a Clam Omni? Gross. Naga? Needs Arrows.

There's really no decent timeline appropriate Omni assaults that aren't really bad.


I'm telling you guys, Kingfisher:

Fire power roughly equal to a Timber Wolf
Best sword and board clan mech (no penalty for side torso loss, can pack firepower one side)
Modified F variant could come with ECM
Could easily see it coming with agility quirks due to it having a STD engine locked in
Doesn't have knuckle dragging arms
I could see it looking pretty cool

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 11 January 2016 - 01:38 PM.


#15 reign

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:38 PM

Why does everyone forget about the Linebacker!!! sheesh

65 tons. Ferro / Endo, 97kph (104 speed tweek),

17 tons of Pod space.

Really good pods..

And it sits really low to the ground.

Oh and 3052 Build date!

Edited by reign, 11 January 2016 - 01:38 PM.


#16 Flutterguy

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:38 PM

View PostWintersdark, on 11 January 2016 - 01:34 PM, said:

Piranha, Huntsman, Night Gyr, and ... ugh.Kingfisher? STD360 on a Clam Omni? Gross. Naga? Needs Arrows.

There's really no decent timeline appropriate Omni assaults that aren't really bad.

His Twitter just said mechs. They don't need to be omnis.

#17 Wintersdark

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:39 PM

View Postmartian, on 11 January 2016 - 01:34 PM, said:

Some suggestions that chatched my eye:

Light
Fire Falcon

Medium
Stooping Hawk - slower than Ryoken, but with optional Jump Jets
Black Lanner - faster than the Ryoken and with ECM suite

Heavy
Night Gyr - slower than the Mad Cat, but with ample pod space

Assault
Kingfisher - very durable Clan Assault

And before you ask: Yes, I know that some of them would not probably interesting for some players that favor !Meta-'Mechs". Posted Image

There's a difference between "players who favor Meta Mechs" and "players who favor mechs that won't be objectively terrible in MWO regardless of the meta."

The Kingfisher? It's paying the tonnage for it's Standard 360 engine (16.5 tons paid over XL) but gets essentially nothing for that investment. Unlike IS STD assaults (which themselves virtually never run 360 class std engines because 40 tons). Then, it's still using clam weapons etc. Gross.

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:43 PM

View PostWintersdark, on 11 January 2016 - 01:39 PM, said:

There's a difference between "players who favor Meta Mechs" and "players who favor mechs that won't be objectively terrible in MWO regardless of the meta."

The Kingfisher? It's paying the tonnage for it's Standard 360 engine (16.5 tons paid over XL) but gets essentially nothing for that investment. Unlike IS STD assaults (which themselves virtually never run 360 class std engines because 40 tons). Then, it's still using clam weapons etc. Gross.


Have a solution that fits the criteria? Clan Assault Omni 3053?

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:44 PM

View PostFlutterguy, on 11 January 2016 - 01:38 PM, said:

His Twitter just said mechs. They don't need to be omnis.

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#20 Yosharian

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 01:44 PM

Night Gyr seems pretty cool, what with its smaller engine.

I'd be curious to see what Alex can do with the Black Lanner, seems like a curious design.

Piranha? I don't see what other Light there is to choose from.

Bane since it's utterly bizarre, but it's not an Omni, right? So can only pick that one if Russ isn't looking specifically for Omnis. Can't see any other Assaults that are interesting.





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