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[Apophis Prime]

Who would like patterns, colors, and cockpit items be available for C-Bills?

Edited by ffofy7891, 08 March 2017 - 10:02 AM.

[Mordent Hex]

Some, like the older ones, would be great for c-bills while the newer things for MC would be perfectly acceptable. Right now the mc costs of colors is prohibitively high for myself.

[Blitxll]

non game changing elements should stay as MC only. PGI don't work for free,

[Ghos7bearD]

Blitxll, on 26 April 2016 - 06:26 PM, said:

non game changing elements should stay as MC only. PGI don't work for free,

This.

[Elendil]

I think yes and no.

There should be a couple basic colors available for free, then you can pay C-Bills for a one-time paid color, or MC to unlock it permanently for all mechs
There shouldn't be any free patterns, or even any for C-Bills, BUT, you should be able to pay a little MC to unlock a pattern for a single mech, or a lot to unlock it for all.
Cockpit items should be like they are now (a big bank of them you can apply to any mech, and you can only have each one in a single mech at a time)

Edited by Elendil, 28 April 2016 - 04:18 PM.

[rolly]

I personally would like to sell this cockpit junk that has no purpose other than to clutter up the view. Either that or give me the option to refund it for even half the value in MC.

[Elendil]

rolly, on 29 April 2016 - 06:56 AM, said:

I personally would like to sell this cockpit junk that has no purpose other than to clutter up the view. Either that or give me the option to refund it for even half the value in MC.

Or, say, the ability to sell things to other players? (for C-Bills, not MC)
Maybe charge the buyer a couple MC for the transaction, so PGI get their cut...

People would probably pay good money for "exclusive" variants that are just cluttering up garages, maybe you could get a discount XL engine, or some used lasers after they get nerfed and everyone switches back to ACs, or whatever.

[Apophis Prime]

Elendil, on 28 April 2016 - 04:17 PM, said:

I think yes and no.

There should be a couple basic colors available for free, then you can pay C-Bills for a one-time paid color, or MC to unlock it permanently for all mechs
There shouldn't be any free patterns, or even any for C-Bills, BUT, you should be able to pay a little MC to unlock a pattern for a single mech, or a lot to unlock it for all.
Cockpit items should be like they are now (a big bank of them you can apply to any mech, and you can only have each one in a single mech at a time)

Paying C-Bills for a pattern, color, or cockpit item for each mech while paying MC to unlock them for all mechs would be fair.

[Alias72]

My answer is a tentative yes. Most games with graphical customization have some of this customization accessible for free (or the free in-game currency in this case C-Bills). While the best content requires money. This is done to "wet the beak" of players. If people were more frequently in contact with the graphical customization features they may be more willing to but that" perfect camo" or that exact shade of red. will point out that there are a few colors available for C-bills (a green and an orange at least).

What I really do like is the idea of selling items such as equipment and mechs for C-bills.

[VonBruinwald]

I'm assuming everyone here as brought the Basic colours for 1,500,000Cb each:

Basic Blue
Basic Red
Basic Orange
Basic Purple

Because all I'm seeing is Basic Green on 90% of 'mechs out there.

[Nesutizale]

I don't think they should be free. Droping in cost a bit, yes but not much. Its a nice way for PGI to make some money without putting essentials behind a paywall.

What they could to is have some "special offer" weeks every now and then.

[Generic Internetter]

ffofy7891, on 26 April 2016 - 04:05 PM, said:

Who would like patterns, colors, and cockpit items be available for C-Bills?

You're not being clear, and your poll question is vague. This has been covered several times in the past; It's clear you didn't check the forums before creating a thread.

Blitxll, on 26 April 2016 - 06:26 PM, said:

non game changing elements should stay as MC only. PGI don't work for free,

Yes, but on the other hand, it is a ripoff that PGI charge MC for colours, when we could very easily just select those colours from a colour wheel. The blatant ripoff attitude is repulsive.

Colours should be unlimited select on a wheel, paid for in C-Bills as a one-shot.



Camos, on the other hand, do carry a cost to PGI because each and every camo for each and every mech has to be created by hand by a paid artist. Some people may presume that once they have a type of camo PGI can just copy-paste it to a different chassis; Absolutely not the case.
That, in case anyone is wondering, is why Unlockable camos only apply to one chassis.

There are multiple layers to surfacing the mechs, and a large part of that needs to be re-worked from scratch for each and every camo even on the same mech. Camos are a massive and central part of the artists' work at PGI.

For Cockpit items, each and every item not only requires careful handcrafting and multi-layered surfacing, but also animation! Even more work per item!

Camos and Cockpit items should remain MC-only.

Sidenote: Some camos, particularly on IS mechs, are too low-resolution and could use a makeover. EG: HBK.

With all of this in mind, if MWO became subscription-only then I would gladly pay the monthly flat fee, but I would expect everything in-game to be available for c-bills.

Edited by Generic Internetter, 10 May 2017 - 09:39 PM.

[Vulk Kell]

I believe adding Decals that would be the Clan and IS Ranks would be a cool addition to the game - the ability to wear my rank on my mech would be awesome

[ScrapIron Prime]

I vote no. PGI's game is free to play, they have to pay their staff somehow. Cosmetics is a good way to pay the staff that doesn't affect free play.

[Johnny Z]

There is a lack of premium content in the game as it is. Maybe if more premium content is added to spend MC on this would be a good idea. As it stands, no.

[Vidarion]

Elendil, on 28 April 2016 - 04:17 PM, said:

There should be a couple basic colors available for free

There are. Look at the Basic colors below. They only cost C-Bills.

VonBruinwald, on 09 March 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

I'm assuming everyone here as brought the Basic colours for 1,500,000Cb each:

Basic Blue
Basic Red
Basic Orange
Basic Purple

I would, normally, have no issue with saying 'Colors cost C-Bills for one-shots and MC for universal unlock', except that C-Bills are so easy to come by you'd be rolling in one-shot colors anyway.

On the other hand, I would LOVE to be able to sell back some of the cockpit items that I don't want...even if it's for 10% the store cost (so, 75MC or so).

Elendil, on 29 April 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

Or, say, the ability to sell things to other players? (for C-Bills, not MC)
Maybe charge the buyer a couple MC for the transaction, so PGI get their cut...

Oh HELL no. At least not in the traditional 'player economy' kind of way. The <em>only</em> way this would work would be if it made NO difference if a player purchased a mech from the store or from a player. This would mean:

• The buying player paid the same amount as the price in the store.
  
• The selling player received the same amount as if they sold to the store.
  
• You would be limited to selling stock loadouts only.
  
• If you can't sell a mech back to the store (special variants), then you can't sell it to another player.

Edited by Vidarion, 07 July 2017 - 09:21 AM.

[Its my first day]

VonBruinwald, on 09 March 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

I'm assuming everyone here as brought the Basic colours for 1,500,000Cb each:

Basic Blue
Basic Red
Basic Orange
Basic Purple

Because all I'm seeing is Basic Green on 90% of 'mechs out there.

Yeah, I didn't find those until recently. Ran into them when I was messing with seeing what colors I was going to get with the event, if I made it to the end.

Edited by Its my first day, 15 July 2017 - 05:18 PM.

[KursedVixen]

Blitxll, on 26 April 2016 - 06:26 PM, said:

non game changing elements should stay as MC only. PGI don't work for free,

it's pretty game changing if your color blind or PGi's standard camo is crap....

Colors for c-bills at least.....

oh and Warhorns can be game changing too.


And yeah PGI doesn't work for free but the guy who made MWLL did and they made a better game........

Edited by KursedVixen, 05 August 2018 - 06:55 PM.