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[Delta One]

I'm looking to spend around $600 on a pc(no monitor) pre built that will run this game smoothly. I've looked at alien ware but honestly im not that good with pc specs so I dont know what overkill is and I dont wanna buy something that is gonna be wasted because I am not a big PC gamer other than this game and past mechwarrior games and a few RTS games. Sorry if this has been asked before and thanks for any help.

[Vulpesveritas]

Well, there are a couple of options to go with. If you can build your own, which is the best route, and isn't very hard. (There are plenty of tutorials available.) then I recommend the following.

$600

Case: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811148060

PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817207013

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157280

CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103727

GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814161389

RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820220561

HDD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136769

ODD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135204

OS: Windows 8 Beta

Heatsink: stock

TIM: stock

Sale Combos: none
Promo Codes: HARDOCPX711B

If you can afford it, any increase in budget on that should probably go to buying Windows 7.



Although, given that you're, as you said "not a big PC gamer", then if graphics aren't your concern, may I recommend the following? It's more suited towards being faster in day-to-day tasks, and being quiet and energy efficient, while still exceeding MWO's requirements.

Case: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811148061

Power supply: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182066

Motherboard:
AMD- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157280
Intel- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157303

CPU:
AMD- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103727
Intel- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115077

GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814161414

RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231479

SSD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820226236

ODD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135204

OS: Windows 8 beta (Or +$100 for windows 7 OEM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116986 )

Heatsink: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835226050


Promo Code:
AMD- HARDOCPX711B
Intel- EMCNCJN34

If you're not willing to build your own, then this will be your best bet;
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16883157362
Although it will be far, far slower, less reliable, louder, less energy efficient, and won't last as long.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 15 July 2012 - 11:47 PM.

[Syclonus]

thats a tough order to fill, 90 of that will be in the operating system alone if you are going the legit route, I specced out a budget pc the other day for someone and the bill came to 710 with shipping, it was a i5 quad core with a 550gtx and 8 gigs of corsair ram on a biostar board w/ a 730w powersupply plus the rest of it (case, mouse, keyboard, ect)

it can be built using part from www.newegg.com but I'm sure you can find cheaper elsewhere but shipping my catch up to you and kill your savings ordering from multiple sites.

[Vulpesveritas]

Syclonus, on 15 July 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

thats a tough order to fill, 90 of that will be in the operating system alone if you are going the legit route, I specced out a budget pc the other day for someone and the bill came to 710 with shipping, it was a i5 quad core with a 550gtx and 8 gigs of corsair ram on a biostar board w/ a 730w powersupply plus the rest of it (case, mouse, keyboard, ect)

it can be built using part from www.newegg.com but I'm sure you can find cheaper elsewhere but shipping my catch up to you and kill your savings ordering from multiple sites.

What decent PSU out that claims 730w? Not to mention, why the heck would you put such a large PSU in such a low power consumption system? lol.

[Syclonus]

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817152036

Its not a bad PSU and allows for expansion in the future.

[Syclonus]

AMD processors btw lol

[Merrick]

also remember, there is no such thing as overkill, only a system that won't have to be upgraded again for at least 5 years

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Syclonus, on 15 July 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817152036

Its not a bad PSU and allows for expansion in the future.

That's a horrible PSU, that by looking at the 12V rails will never ever reach anywhere near 750W, more like mid 500.

Merrick, on 15 July 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

also remember, there is no such thing as overkill, only a system that won't have to be upgraded again for at least 5 years

Which is why you should choose a PSU with reliable internals, that one does not have them and will be dead inside 3 years.

Edited by DV McKenna, 15 July 2012 - 11:04 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Syclonus, on 15 July 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817152036

Its not a bad PSU and allows for expansion in the future.

"not a very bad PSU"?
Let's see what's wrong with it here.

• The 12v Rails can only support ~550w, which means for a modern PC it is only a 550w PSU.
  
• It isn't even 80% energy efficient
  
• The OEM is a crap brand.

Even when looking at cheap-o parts, this is better for the same $$$; http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182200

Syclonus, on 15 July 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

AMD processors btw lol

Well, that Phenom II X4 is faster than an i3 in multithread (see current and future applications), and the difference between a Phenom II X4 and an i5-2500k in CryENGINE 3 (see what MWO is running on) is only two frames per second. For... $100 less.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 15 July 2012 - 11:09 PM.

[Scilya]

as i have said before you dont need to buy windows 7 right away download the ISO from Microsoft and install it and then update it with all the latest updates. once your 30 day trial runs out,.. nothing happens you get your black desktop background and then non activated windows messages, you cant use Microsoft security essentials or receive *some*. YOU WILL NOT NOTICE THESE THINGS well apart from the black desktop, however there is no downside whatsoever if you keep it like this for a fiew months while you get the cash for a key, you wont even have to reformat you just go type the key in. so when your buying a pc focus on your hardware the OS is not as important at the start especially at the cost when you can just do it this way, it will make it a bit easier for you if you have not got much cash

* lol at the 2 troll comments (whats a 730W psu annyway?)

and that 965 is not a bulldozer yay vulps
you can oc that cpu as well you wont have any problems don't listen to the intell fanboys

Edited by Scilya, 15 July 2012 - 11:09 PM.

[Grey Weasel]

Delta One, on 15 July 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

I'm looking to spend around $600 on a pc(no monitor) pre built that will run this game smoothly. I've looked at alien ware but honestly im not that good with pc specs so I dont know what overkill is and I dont wanna buy something that is gonna be wasted because I am not a big PC gamer other than this game and past mechwarrior games and a few RTS games. Sorry if this has been asked before and thanks for any help.

Sad to say this, but did you check Walmart? Before anyone goes to that place with me, they've got decent gear and offer custom-built computers. Basic gaming right for $500 is better than my system.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Grey Weasel, on 15 July 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Sad to say this, but did you check Walmart? Before anyone goes to that place with me, they've got decent gear and offer custom-built computers. Basic gaming right for $500 is better than my system.

The problem with such computers is that the components will be basic OEM kit, that quite simply is the cheap crappy kit that will offer no long term viability.

[Vulpesveritas]

Grey Weasel, on 15 July 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Sad to say this, but did you check Walmart? Before anyone goes to that place with me, they've got decent gear and offer custom-built computers. Basic gaming right for $500 is better than my system.

DV McKenna, on 15 July 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

The problem with such computers is that the components will be basic OEM kit, that quite simply is the cheap crappy kit that will offer no long term viability.

This, and you're going to get a crap graphics card for the price.

[Scilya]

Grey Weasel, on 15 July 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Sad to say this, but did you check Walmart? Before anyone goes to that place with me, they've got decent gear and offer custom-built computers. Basic gaming right for $500 is better than my system.

u high?????? always cheaper and better quality to custom id stay WELL AWAY from places like currys, pc world and supermarkets if i were you

[Vulpesveritas]

Scilya, on 15 July 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

and that 965 is not a bulldozer yay vulps
you can oc that cpu as well you wont have any problems don't listen to the intell fanboys

The only BD chips I recommend are;
The FX-6200 for gaming / Overclocking at $160
The FX-8120 for multitasking at $160

Other than that, the Phenom II 965 is still the best deal at $100-110. no reason to up the CPU at this level of cost.

[Grey Weasel]

DV McKenna, on 15 July 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

The problem with such computers is that the components will be basic OEM kit, that quite simply is the cheap crappy kit that will offer no long term viability.

Umm... No, but then you didn't even bother to look, did you? You saw 'Walmart' and inserted 'cheap crap.' Besides, the OP is looking for pre-built. People are pointing to parts on NewEgg. That's not prebuilt. Not even custom prebuilt.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Grey Weasel, on 15 July 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

Umm... No, but then you didn't even bother to look, did you? You saw 'Walmart' and inserted 'cheap crap.' Besides, the OP is looking for pre-built. People are pointing to parts on NewEgg. That's not prebuilt. Not even custom prebuilt.

Ummm Yes, walmart offer Dells,HP,Acer and referbs of said brands each of these companies use generic OEM parts to keep costs down.
The custom build items are from Ibuypower and Cyberpower both ok pre builders however again read the system descriptions on offer and you will find the only named part is the processor, because everything else will be OEM kit no too mention for $500 USD on Walmart your getting a GT 520 or AMD 6450 GPU...thats not going to play much very well compare that too the 7770 above...
They don't even make a mention of the Brand or power rating of the PSU...as if you needed any more alarm bells to start ringing out.

People are suggesting components because its a well known fact, that for the same cost you get far more for your money and far longer longevity and upgrade ability by building your own and its not that hard to do.

Edited by DV McKenna, 15 July 2012 - 11:39 PM.

[Shivus]

Out of curiosity I just checked walmart online and wasn't impressed. Unless they have amazing custom systems in the actual store the sub $600 desktops appear to be typical garbage with GPUs like the GT 520.

I looked into ibuypower's custom builder through the site and again, not impressive. The lowest GPU offering worth picking was the GTX 550 TI, and even picking base options everywhere else (except an upgrade to 8gb ram) brought the system to $689 total. The base CPU offering is the FX 4100, which I wouldn't place faith in overclocking very far with an unknown PSU and the stock cooler.

The DIY build is $88 cheaper with higher quality parts and a better GPU.

I mean, sure the prebuilt is decent. But once you build your own you get bit by the bug of knowing the quality of parts that go into your system, and knowing that your system is a steal for its price.

Edited by Shivus, 15 July 2012 - 11:47 PM.

[Scilya]

Vulpesveritas, on 15 July 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

The only BD chips I recommend are;
The FX-6200 for gaming / Overclocking at $160
The FX-8120 for multitasking at $160

Other than that, the Phenom II 965 is still the best deal at $100-110. no reason to up the CPU at this level of cost.

when BD first came out i was annoyed about the performance yes but what realy REALY bugged me is everywhere i went all the shop PC's wer all getting "FREE UPGRADES" from the phenom ii 975 to the FX4100 god i was so pissed off.
if i were to get a FX it would be the 8150 wouldn't go lower than that but im happy with the cpu i have now. im hoping piledriver is what i wanted bulldozer to be

[Vulpesveritas]

Scilya, on 15 July 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

when BD first came out i was annoyed about the performance yes but what realy REALY bugged me is everywhere i went all the shop PC's wer all getting "FREE UPGRADES" from the phenom ii 975 to the FX4100 god i was so pissed off.
if i were to get a FX it would be the 8150 wouldn't go lower than that but im happy with the cpu i have now. im hoping piledriver is what i wanted bulldozer to be

Well, in fairness an 8120 is a better value than an 8150, especially if you overclock, and an FX-6200 is slightly faster than a Thubian 1100t.
But yes, pretty much hoping Piledriver is what BD was advertised / hyped to be.