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[Lily from animove]

Blind Baku, on 10 November 2016 - 09:18 AM, said:

I get most of that, I truely do. I have also tested half a dozen builds on the 27SL (only one I own atm) and I really like the mech... in any other game mode. Scouting is too heavily alpha brawl focused, too fast for a maximum of 5mpls (best build I could figure out, though I am half tempted to max XL dual LPL or PPC and kite all day long because [expletive stream of adjectives] this trash, if my games are gonna suck, you're going to have to catch me). When the Nova can, and often packs and alpha of at least twice the alpha of a Crab, it just does not stand a chance.

"it just removes oveheatdamage" on caustic, when everyone is running hot load outs, this is big. As to "Bring flamers" You mean sacrifice a big portion (anywhere from 1/5 to 2/5ths) of my damage output just to hope I can overheat a mech that can alpha my arms off in 2 alphas? Also forcing me to play in SL or SPL range when range is sort of the one redeeming option my lasers have... (unless he's in a stock prime).

I get that a lot of people also say take the AC10, but with the exception of the match I ran into Kanajashi and his buddies, that CN9 build served very well, I would also have liked to try the LBX10 build, but the Alpha and focus of 2SRM4s and the AC20 meant a lot of tasty legs were had.

how is to too fast for 5 MPL? i used a IFR with 5 SPL and it does fine also on scoutings vs other clanners, so are you saying the IFR is now also superior to the NVA or Crab?

can you record? I would like to see how you play those matches.

[MagikMan191]

I like the idea of another chassis event, and LOVE the fact that you were trying to get more members involved in FP, which worked a little as scouting missions are back in play, the problem is you can see how OP and one sided these 2 chassis are against each other, and how lopsided it thus makes the Invasion mode for clanners against IS - as right now, each planet has one or all of the scouting perks (Combat ID, Satellite sweep, Arty) unlocked for Clans.
Having crabs go up against laser vomit nova's is a one sided battle that in each scouting mission I've gone into seems to be over in 5 mins or less and 99% of the time in favour of the clans.

I don't mind the challenge (with Clan's having added perks of Sat sweeps and Arty for an Invasion mode), but I will probably wait to play FP until this challenge is over.

[Aramuside]

Appogee, on 10 November 2016 - 09:41 AM, said:

Counting down from 10 minutes now, still no match.

Possibly don't play the most overpopulated side? I've been going almost straight in as CSJ for scouting as so many less of us.... now invasion ... that's a pain.

[Appogee]

15 minutes later we got a match. Now back in the queue for another riveting wait, I guess

Aramuside, on 10 November 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:

Possibly don't play the most overpopulated side?

NOW you tell me?!

But yeah, good advice it would seem.

[Aramuside]

Appogee, on 10 November 2016 - 09:55 AM, said:

15 minutes later we got a match. Now back in the queue for another riveting wait, I guess

NOW you tell me?!

But yeah, good advice it would seem.

Yeah not mocking as there are so few of us on CSJ the downside is the waits for an invasion match are horrendous and when you get in its just 12 of us pugging. It hasn't ended well once so far.

[Appogee]

Soooo... if I exit my current Clan contract, how many days do I have to go before I can take an IS contract?

[Pariah Devalis]

Blind Baku, on 10 November 2016 - 09:18 AM, said:

I get that a lot of people also say take the AC10, but with the exception of the match I ran into Kanajashi and his buddies, that CN9 build served very well, I would also have liked to try the LBX10 build, but the Alpha and focus of 2SRM4s and the AC20 meant a lot of tasty legs were had.

AC20 hits like a truck, though. We try to prioritize AC20 carriers over others, because 20 PPFLD is absolutely devastating in scouting mode. The CN9 AH with AC20 and SRM4s is all kinds of dangerous.

[StonedCrusher]

Please PGI extend the Event, or give us the option to break contract w/o time punishment.
There is NO WAY to find any matches as Jade Falcon, and if we swap were locked for 3 days.
Dont waste the event by making it impossible for some unites to play please!!!

[Blind Baku]

Lily from animove, on 10 November 2016 - 09:43 AM, said:

how is to too fast for 5 MPL? i used a IFR with 5 SPL and it does fine also on scoutings vs other clanners, so are you saying the IFR is now also superior to the NVA or Crab?

can you record? I would like to see how you play those matches.

Sorry, to clarify, not too fast as in "OMG that lct move so fast I can't hit it with my PPCs!" but too fast like "Contact!..." 3 sseconds and 8 million point of damage later "GG". I'm not saying the IFR>Crab, I'm saying the speed at which a Nova puts out damage (we'll low ball an average alpha at 50, though 60 seems closer to average) compared to a Crab (30 for 5 mpls) is so much higher and faster at application. In a longer PUG/non-FW match it isn't as big a deal, Crabs tank well and the heat difference between the two helps. But in scouting, doing literally twice the damage per alpha is a world apart.

I might be able to record... I jump on twitch every once and a while to stream for the hell of it, but I'm not sure how much post capture work goes into videos so I haven't made any yet.

Pariah Devalis, on 10 November 2016 - 11:05 AM, said:

AC20 hits like a truck, though. We try to prioritize AC20 carriers over others, because 20 PPFLD is absolutely devastating in scouting mode. The CN9 AH with AC20 and SRM4s is all kinds of dangerous.

Yeeeaaahhh... Sucks when you're playing against a solid group that gets good eyes on you early.
@ about 1:05:00 but that build was what got me through the last CW event, rather happily too. Transitioning to Crabs... makes me wish I had just kept the damned CN9 but the sale "cannot be reversed" guess I just need to save my CBills.

Edited by Blind Baku, 10 November 2016 - 11:44 AM.

[Dee Eight]

Bongthrower, on 09 November 2016 - 11:51 PM, said:

This is the 2nd event where Loyalists just get assjammed by eventdesign. Give away either IS OR Clan rewards. Not getting both just cuz you're a Loyalist really sucks, we should get a extra prize instead of beeing the stupid fucktards every time -.- I'm really not getting the point O_o hope ppl will have that in mind when creating the next CW event...

First world problems apparently. Because anyone really needs two copies of the same lame standing item and warhorn ?

[Appogee]

Dee Eight, on 10 November 2016 - 11:38 AM, said:

Because anyone really needs two copies of the same lame standing item and warhorn ?

Free stuff attracts me like a moth to a flame

[Aramuside]

Have to say the invasion matches are awful for CSJ. Horrendous long waits as so few players and then you go straight against BMMU etc organised groups who just sit and defend. This is why no one plays Invasion because its utterly pointless going in every match knowing you're going to lose.... which then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Then some bright spark decides to tell you that everything is fine in FP and its just that match.... *facepalm*

[B0ll0]

Aramuside, on 10 November 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:

Have to say the invasion matches are awful for CSJ. Horrendous long waits as so few players and then you go straight against BMMU etc organised groups who just sit and defend.

65 attacker, 61 defender on xinyang at the moment. so there are no waiting times.

[Aramuside]

B0ll0, on 10 November 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:

65 attacker, 61 defender on xinyang at the moment. so there are no waiting times.

Utter rubbish having just waited for 24 minutes..... people just keep wandering off....

Edit: Though in fairness I have just gone straight into another one.

Edited by Aramuside, 10 November 2016 - 12:29 PM.

[Dee Eight]

Aramuside, on 10 November 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

Utter rubbish having just waited for 24 minutes..... people just keep wandering off....

Edit: Though in fairness I have just gone straight into another one.

Oh the humanity of other peoples lives NOT revolving around you.

[no one]

Pariah Devalis, on 10 November 2016 - 11:05 AM, said:

AC20 hits like a truck, though. We try to prioritize AC20 carriers over others, because 20 PPFLD is absolutely devastating in scouting mode. The CN9 AH with AC20 and SRM4s is all kinds of dangerous.

The CN9 AH is the only Mech that can pull that off, and it costs you speed. Autocannons are rot compared to wads of SRMs or lasers in scouting brawls. With SRMs you get just enough spread to not get screwed completely by wonky geometry or hit detection and wads of lasers are a lot more controlled. That's why I'd rather run a hunchback 4SP or or 4P in scouting than a ballistic variant. They can move fast on a std engine and the 4SP can soak up enough damage before melting to at least push up the enemy's heat cap.

[Blind Baku]

no one, on 10 November 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

The CN9 AH is the only Mech that can pull that off, and it costs you speed. Autocannons are rot compared to wads of SRMs or lasers in scouting brawls. With SRMs you get just enough spread to not get screwed completely by wonky geometry or hit detection and wads of lasers are a lot more controlled. That's why I'd rather run a hunchback 4SP or or 4P in scouting than a ballistic variant. They can move fast on a std engine and the 4SP can soak up enough damage before melting to at least push up the enemy's heat cap.

Eh, I had acceptable success in the ENF 2uac5 or lbx10 before I had picked up the ac20 cn9. After that unless it was against l33t 4 man drops it was always a much fairer fight, at least where I was concerned.

With the Crab... Not even close

Edited by Blind Baku, 10 November 2016 - 05:15 PM.

[tee5]

Dee Eight, on 10 November 2016 - 11:38 AM, said:

First world problems apparently. Because anyone really needs two copies of the same lame standing item and warhorn ?

Shouldn't at least everybody has the same chance?

[Commander A9]

Desperately just trying to grind the scout matches down...no one available to play. :/

We've got enough to field multiple scout teams...but no opposition.

We're on Jade Falcon to enable more attack options, by the way...

Edited by Commander A9, 10 November 2016 - 07:15 PM.

[Dee Eight]

tee5, on 10 November 2016 - 06:52 PM, said:

Shouldn't at least everybody has the same chance?

No because loyalists already get more benefits from the pilot rank tables in FW than mercs.