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[MadHornet]

Drew this to play with lighting.


Carmech > All

[Requiemking]

I'm not so fond of it, mainly due to it, like most 20 tonners, basically being a rehash of the Locust.

[Stingray Productions]

Ahhh! Very pretty! I really like it!

[Metus regem]

Bah Stinger 3G or A5 for me.

[MadHornet]

Requiemking, on 24 November 2016 - 12:28 AM, said:

I'm not so fond of it, mainly due to it, like most 20 tonners, basically being a rehash of the Locust.

It generally has MASC, and would be given structure quirks based on it's description.

[Requiemking]

MadHornet, on 24 November 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

It generally has MASC, and would be given structure quirks based on it's description.

So? It still serves the same basic purpose as the Locust, which is basically "Cheap, fast recon/anti-infantry mech". Meanwhile, you have something like the Howler, which serves a very different purpose and in the context of the mech would actually be quite fun to play, since it isn't a rehashed Locust.

[MadHornet]

Requiemking, on 25 November 2016 - 05:29 PM, said:

So? It still serves the same basic purpose as the Locust, which is basically "Cheap, fast recon/anti-infantry mech". Meanwhile, you have something like the Howler, which serves a very different purpose and in the context of the mech would actually be quite fun to play, since it isn't a rehashed Locust.

*puts 3 LRM-5's on locust*

What was that about rehashed?

[Mechteric]

MadHornet, on 25 November 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

*puts 3 LRM-5's on locust*

What was that about rehashed?

* smacks the back of your head*

....LRMs on an IS light mech?


*smacks it again *

Go back to the Academy greenie!

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 25 November 2016 - 07:36 PM.

[Requiemking]

CapperDeluxe, on 25 November 2016 - 07:33 PM, said:

* smacks the back of your head*

....LRMs on an IS light mech?


*smacks it again *

Go back to the Academy greenie!

Exactly. The Howler is the only 20 tonner that can Lurmboat. Also, one variant is an ERPPC sniper.

[MadHornet]

Requiemking, on 25 November 2016 - 07:56 PM, said:

Exactly. The Howler is the only 20 tonner that can Lurmboat. Also, one variant is an ERPPC sniper.

Oh I thought you guys were talking in terms of MWO? If we're talking about pure BattleTech then yeah, a lot of 20 tonners share huge similarities.

[Requiemking]

MadHornet, on 25 November 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

Oh I thought you guys were talking in terms of MWO? If we're talking about pure BattleTech then yeah, a lot of 20 tonners share huge similarities.

Even when talking MWO, the vast majority of 20 tonners are basically Locust retcons. The Howler is pretty much the only exception.

[Dirus Nigh]

Requiemking, on 25 November 2016 - 11:18 PM, said:

Even when talking MWO, the vast majority of 20 tonners are basically Locust retcons. The Howler is pretty much the only exception.

The howler is pretty much a locust with a PPC. Which I have used.

There are two 20 ton mechs, locusts, and Wasp/stingers. What sets them apart is the jump jets. WHile the locust is fast, the wasp is highly mobile. Every thing else is a reconfiguration of those two.

[Requiemking]

Dirus Nigh, on 29 November 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

The howler is pretty much a locust with a PPC. Which I have used.

There are two 20 ton mechs, locusts, and Wasp/stingers. What sets them apart is the jump jets. WHile the locust is fast, the wasp is highly mobile. Every thing else is a reconfiguration of those two.

Except, they still fit into one of the Locust's two purposes. The one they match up with is "Cheap scout unit". Meanwhile the Howler is meant as a light Long-range support craft.

[General Pete]

Unless you consider mechs like the Thorn, which is a slow, non-jump 20 tonner meant to 'brawl' and out-muscle other 20 tonners. Or the Kabuto, which is a smaller cheaper Kuritan Javelin (although you could argue that one is Locust-like moving at 7/11).

[SP3CTREnyc]

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

The Thorn would like to talk with you about a 20-tonner that can Lurm.

[Mechteric]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 26 January 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

The Thorn would like to talk with you about a 20-tonner that can Lurm.

One LRM5. That's no lurmer. The Adder can mount 40 LRMs, now there's a lurm boat.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

CapperDeluxe, on 27 January 2017 - 07:08 AM, said:

One LRM5. That's no lurmer. The Adder can mount 40 LRMs, now there's a lurm boat.

Adder is both Clan and 35 tons, neither of which makes it relevant to the discussion of 20t LRM carriers.

[Mechteric]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 27 January 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

Adder is both Clan and 35 tons, neither of which makes it relevant to the discussion of 20t LRM carriers.

Perhaps not, but my point is those 20t LRM carriers are worthless, pointless, wastes of tonnage.

[Requiemking]

CapperDeluxe, on 27 January 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

Perhaps not, but my point is those 20t LRM carriers are worthless, pointless, wastes of tonnage.

Ehhhhhhhhh, Howler would beg to differ. 20 tons, three CLRM5s, a ton of ammo per launcher, 140 STD, and no advanced tech, thus making it relatively easy to get. Plus, once you start going crazy with upgrades (Endo, XL engine, ect.), you can do some truly magical things with that mech. LRM 30 on a 20 tonner that runs as fast as a Cheetah, while not being a walking roadsign? Why not? ASRM 18 with tons of ammo to spare? Sure, go ahead.