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[MoonUnitBeta]

100% C-BILL AND XP REFUND ON MECHS, MODULES, ETC.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 03 December 2016 - 09:16 PM.

[AnTi90d]

So.. now it will take..

3.5 MILLION experience points

..to master each mech.

..the grind is real..

[Wecx]

AnTi90d, on 03 December 2016 - 09:23 PM, said:

So.. now it will take..

3.5 MILLION experience points

..to master each mech.

..the grind is real..

F That

[Y E O N N E]

Yeonne Greene, on 03 December 2016 - 09:50 PM, said:

I'm cautiously optimistic about the new skills. I think some 'Mechs will still require durability buffs "gifted" to them for geometry reasons and Clan skills should not total to the same magnitude of buff as Inner Sphere skills since their equipment is inherently better to begin with, but we'll see.

We may just end up right back where we are right now if they don't heed the above.

[Wecx]

Yeonne Greene, on 03 December 2016 - 09:58 PM, said:

We may just end up right back where we are right now if they don't heed the above.

I can see it now, everybody getting cooldown quirks, the Alphas will be in even faster.

Edited by Wecx, 03 December 2016 - 09:59 PM.

[Requiemking]

Well, at least they are doing something they should have done a long time ago. THROWING THE 3 TO MASTER RULE OUT THE WINDOW.

[Y E O N N E]

Wecx, on 03 December 2016 - 09:59 PM, said:

I can see it now, everybody getting cooldown quirks, the Alphas will be in even faster.

It's potentially even worse than that.

IS needs extra durability/mobility because XL needs to be protected. They need faster firing lasers and longer range just to cover the deficit from total number of weapons and gap between standard and ER...

But now, at least from what these screenshots show, the Clans get access to these same buffs in the same magnitude.

GG.

Also, I like how each SP costs so much that even the 700,000+ XP I have on my Locusts and Blackjacks results in them being overall weaker than they are now after I spend it all on upgrades. Frickin' neato.

[El Bandito]

AnTi90d, on 03 December 2016 - 09:23 PM, said:

So.. now it will take..

3.5 MILLION experience points

..to master each mech.

..the grind is real..

It is up to us to convince PGI to make those numbers more tolerable. Quick, to the Bat Tweet!

Edited by El Bandito, 03 December 2016 - 10:05 PM.

[Wecx]

Yeonne Greene, on 03 December 2016 - 10:03 PM, said:

It's potentially even worse than that.

IS needs extra durability/mobility because XL needs to be protected. They need faster firing lasers and longer range just to cover the deficit from total number of weapons and gap between standard and ER...

But now, at least from what these screenshots show, the Clans get access to these same buffs in the same magnitude.

GG.

Also, I like how each SP costs so much that even the 700,000+ XP I have on my Locusts and Blackjacks results in them being overall weaker than they are now after I spend it all on upgrades. Frickin' neato.

Some mechs don't even need quirks. Like the Ebon-jag.

[meteorol]

Hopefully we can respec without paying mc.

[Y E O N N E]

Wecx, on 03 December 2016 - 10:07 PM, said:

Some mechs don't even need quirks. Like the Ebon-jag.

Precisely. That's why I'm so worried.

That said, this isn't coming until some time next year (I think Russ said February is the target), so there could also be a ton of equipment changes between now and then that change the equation.

[Wecx]

Yeonne Greene, on 03 December 2016 - 10:17 PM, said:

Precisely. That's why I'm so worried.

That said, this isn't coming until some time next year (I think Russ said February is the target), so there could also be a ton of equipment changes between now and then that change the equation.

What scares me is there is no way PGI will get this right on the first patch.

[Y E O N N E]

Wecx, on 03 December 2016 - 10:22 PM, said:

What scares me is there is no way PGI will get this right on the first patch.

El Bandito, on 03 December 2016 - 10:04 PM, said:

It is up to us to convince PGI to make those numbers more tolerable. Quick, to the Bat Tweet!

[Ace Selin]

Yeonne Greene, on 03 December 2016 - 10:03 PM, said:

It's potentially even worse than that.

IS needs extra durability/mobility because XL needs to be protected. They need faster firing lasers and longer range just to cover the deficit from total number of weapons and gap between standard and ER...

But now, at least from what these screenshots show, the Clans get access to these same buffs in the same magnitude.

GG.

Also, I like how each SP costs so much that even the 700,000+ XP I have on my Locusts and Blackjacks results in them being overall weaker than they are now after I spend it all on upgrades. Frickin' neato.

I too am wondering how IS mechs are getting compensated for their loss of quirks!

[BabyCakes666]

**** mechs have quirks to stop them from being **** and your telling me pgi has undone all of this?

now clan mechs have quirks the EBJ has non and it poop dmg just fine

i mean what abut my hero mechs i PAYED MONEY FOR!!! wtf abut thos quirks MY LK!!

idk wtf there dong but im not happy D:<

[El Bandito]

BabyCakes666, on 03 December 2016 - 10:29 PM, said:

**** mechs have quirks to stop them from being **** and your telling me pgi has undone all of this?

now clan mechs have quirks the EBJ has non and it poop dmg just fine

i mean what abut my hero mechs i PAYED MONEY FOR!!! wtf abut thos quirks MY LK!!

idk wtf there dong but im not happy D:<

PGI can still use new skill tree, all the while buffing under performers with additional quirks.

Edited by El Bandito, 03 December 2016 - 10:36 PM.

[Bud Crue]

As I posted elsewhere:

Bud Crue, on 03 December 2016 - 10:24 PM, said:

Won't this just make the meta mechs even more meta?

I mean a mech like the Kodiak 3, which doesn't need quirks, will be that much easier to dominate with if you don't have to waste your effort getting it all "leveled" up, where as a mech like the Cataphract or Panther which is only playable due to quirks will take that much more effort to make it playable. No? Am I missing something here?

People are going to quickly realize this, and then those mechs are simply not going to be played...ever. I hope they take this into account.

[BabyCakes666]

El Bandito, on 03 December 2016 - 10:34 PM, said:

PGI can still use new skill tree, all the while buffing under performers with additional quirks.

im liking this but i still am not going to trust it

Bud Crue, on 03 December 2016 - 10:36 PM, said:

As I posted elsewhere:

thats wut i mean quirks fix **** mechs

the KDK got nerf and your telling me i can pump all my points into ppc gauss quirks

[ElCadaver]

So, can anyone clarify how much we are going to lose in terms of mech mastery with this change?

As someone who has a lot of elite mechs, is the amount being refunded to us going to be enough to pay for the allowable number of quirks, so that every mech we have elited will stay "elited" in the new system?

Will our mechs keep their current XP, plus be refunded the extra they have spent on skills? I have several mechs with hundreds of thousands of XP on them.

The final thing is, if we want to re spec our max skill mech in the new system, will it cost MC to wipe the slate clean and get our XP back? Will we get our XP back?

As someone who has spent a lot of time mastering mechs, I'm concerned. I think it's an exciting change, but I can't see PGI missing the chance to up the monetization of the skill tree and increase the grind.

[Tristan Winter]

What is the "Operations" skill tree? Airstrikes and artillery?