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[FuzzyNova]

This varies between every pilot. Some people are down for this mech to come out and others don't want it to even make it. Why? I'll tell you what I think.

When I saw Roughneck I wasn't sure where in the battle tech universe I could find it....then I read more into it. PGI made it up. You may think "Oh that's cool". But I disagree. Every single mech that has come out has been from the battle tech universe. sticking strictly to the lore it made MWO what it is. For all the Lore fanatics out there this may come as a low blow. I do not want to trash talk a mech PGI created but when it comes to reasoning and the other options they could have done I dont know.
Let me rephrase that. Im not talking trash or anything like that. Im actually worried....or disappointed.

This will be the first time a fake or made up mech has been introduced into the game. Is it a big deal? Yes I think so

Think about all the hundreds and hundreds of mechs still out there. Many of us have posted suggestions hundreds of times in hope that out favorite mech be brought into the game. I just feel like if they do this once maybe they will continue to keep doing it. More and more and next thing you know half of the mechs you see are not even in the battle tech universe or lore. That would suck. I don't know why this bothers me but it does. There are so many cool and awesome mechs they could of chose to put in the game. But I guess they just wanted something literally new. New and unheard of. I just hope that it was like a once a year thing. That wouldnt be too bad.

If they somehow added this mech to the Lore in a new Mechwarrior book it would work.

I say just stick to adding real mechs to the game. After all there are tons and tons and tons.

I am excited about the Marauder IIC though.
But as for Rough neck. Nah

[FupDup]

We already have more then enough heavies, especially in the 65-ton bracket. If it was 60 tons it would be more understandable, but still bloating an already bloated class.

A medium or light would have been better. Or at least, a heavy that doesn't feel like 4/6 variants are mediocre (one normal variant and the hero are shoulder quadlaser meta builds).

[Morggo]

Nathaniel Johns, on 07 December 2016 - 01:03 PM, said:

...If they somehow added this mech to the Lore in a new Mechwarrior book it would work.

I say just stick to adding real mechs to the game. After all there are tons and tons and tons.
...

Well, not in a TRO yet or anything, but it was canonized at Mechcon so technically it's part of the BT universe now. Honestly, I'm fine with it.. I mean, over the years mechs get created and canonized ... not like we woke up one day and every mech in the TRO's and such instantly existed. I am an old TT fan, but I'm okay with the universe expanding a bit (as long as it's not a chain of like ten new PGI mechs coming up... )

My thoughts, mileage will vary.

[Juodas Varnas]

I'd like it more if it was a Quadruped.

But i got to admit, that the Roughneck is sorta growing on me

[kuma8877]

So, your saying, that the the guy who is single-handedly bringing the BT universe up to date visually doesn't deserve to have one design added to canon? It's one mech that has a backwater background. I wouldn't be too worried about them ruining BT lore.

[davoodoo]

Personally got nothing against new made up mechs, but then i agree they should first introduce whats already in the lore.

[FuzzyNova]

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I hope it doesn't become a normal thing ya know? I would rather see any other mech literally

[Mole]

If this is a one-time thing then I'm fine with it. It honestly bothers me how many people I see just looking at the concept art and crying about how they custom taylored this 'mech for the MWO meta. All they're seeing is that big shoulder cannon. Seriously, have you seen this thing's hardpoints and tonnage? I'm going to be very surprised if the Roughneck replaces anything in the meta. Most of the variants hardpoints look like garbage to me except for maybe the one that boats energy weapons. It's just got a ton of ballistics hardpoints and not enough tonnage or space to use them. I think it has the same syndrome that I believe the Bushwhacker is going to have.

[Belacose]

Personally I love the Roughneck, but back in the Battletech heroclix days i always played some of these mechs simply because I thought they looked so cool and had fairly low point values. some of them could repair your mechs in the field and were decent melee mechs with giant chainsaw arms, clamps and whatnots.

[Lucian Nostra]

This will be the first time a created mech was put into mwo but one of many in a long line from mw4 - MechWarrior clix to be put into battletech. also unlike most those mechs this one comes pre canonized

You are right there are tons of mechs to still put into mwo, why are so many of you assuming it's all over since the roughneck is coming out?

I'm also vrry lore houndish but I have zero problems with the roughneck coming out. Sure if pgi for some reason just drops pgi mechs from now on id see a cause for being upset, but not with just one. You people really need to stop with the sky is falling act.

Edited by Lucian Nostra, 07 December 2016 - 01:30 PM.

[RestosIII]

Juodas Varnas, on 07 December 2016 - 01:13 PM, said:

I'd like it more if it was a Quadruped.

But i got to admit, that the Roughneck is sorta growing on me

I was throwing **** everywhere, ready to create an effigy of PGI's logo to burn down when the Roughneck was announced. But after hearing about the fact that it was basically Alex's pet project, Catalyst confirming it's canon, and Russ assuring us that they aren't going to flood us with PGI-invented mechs, I'm feeling a lot less angry about it. Still not going to touch the thing with a 10 foot pole, but I'm officially taking back my "Burn anyone using one at the stake" stance. It's the least I can do for Alex, considering how much work he's done for Battletech/Mechwarrior.

It doesn't help that I still look at the thing and see the baby of a power loader from Aliens and one of the exo-suits from Avatar.

Edited by RestosIII, 07 December 2016 - 01:30 PM.

[Rakshasa]

Lore expanding? Check. Awesome artist? Check. Interesting 'mech concept? Check. Sounds pretty good to me

RestosIII, on 07 December 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

It doesn't help that I still look at the thing and see the baby of a power loader from Aliens and one of the exo-suits from Avatar.

...I see nothing wrong with either of those things.

Edited by Rakshasa, 07 December 2016 - 01:34 PM.

[FuzzyNova]

Lucian Nostra, on 07 December 2016 - 01:28 PM, said:

This will be the first time a created mech was put into mwo but one of many in a long line from mw4 - MechWarrior clix to be put into battletech. also unlike most those mechs this one comes pre canonized

You are right there are tons of mechs to still put into mwo, why are so many of you assuming it's all over since the roughneck is coming out?

I'm also vrry lore houndish but I have zero problems with the roughneck coming out. Sure if pgi for some reason just drops pgi mechs from now on id see a cause for being upset, but not with just one. You people really need to stop with the sky is falling act.

No sky falling here. PGI could keep doing this and i would never stop playing this game. I just dont want this to be something that happens alot. I don't like the idea of them creating a new mech. Just my opinion. Either way I will alwshs be playing this game.

Haha. Look. It's happening. Do I like it? No. But its not super serious. I didn't realize how many topics were already about this same thing when I made this. Yeah Roughneck is another Heavy. I think it's whenever I buy a mech I like to study the lore and history extensively. It helps me play better and gives me a nerd *****. With this one I won't even get half chub

[RestosIII]

Rakshasa, on 07 December 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

Lore expanding? Check. Awesome artist? Check. Interesting 'mech concept? Check. Sounds pretty good to me




...I see nothing wrong with either of those things.

Just never an image I expected to see in Battletech/Mechwarrior. Weirds me out a bit. Mostly the elbow joints and the extremely thin hips that mess with me, probably.

[The Lobsters]

I'm getting a bit stuck on the strapline 'Roughneck :- All Work And Tons Of Play. It sounds like a gay porno title. Not sure what that is a statement on....


My washing machine is broken at the moment. Maybe something to do with that.




That said, I love the lore concept and artwork and will probably end up buying it. If my RL job was transposed into the Battletech future, industrial mechs would be a commonplace thing for me. I hope that a big ballistic on the shoulder kinda looks proper just bolted on and really clunky.

[LordMelvin]

The Roughneck is a culmination of events rather than the beginning. The Fang and Flame were the first non-canon mechs I could find to be added to MWO. Since then PGI has invented custom variants to flesh out where chassis did not have enough (like the Enforcer). We've also seen mechs with weapon hardpoints that MWO doesn't support (rear facing and leg hardpoints) or tech (personnel pods on the Hellbringer). And more recently the Marauder IIC, which had an entire line of non-canon variants added to sidestep the tech requirements (HAGs, ATMs, etc).

I have my reservations about PGI creating a new mech out of thin air with so many popular chassis still being cried out for. However a custom mech would be easier to balance without inciting endless rage from supporters and detractors of the chassis. In addition, it could be used to fill in gaps that canon chassis don't fill. That said, it does open the door for some serious pay to win shenanigans and PGI's balance record is poor at best. And it's even more likely that we won't see new tech get added.

I'm wary of basically everything PGI does at this point but I can see the potential in this.

[cazidin]

RestosIII, on 07 December 2016 - 01:36 PM, said:

Just never an image I expected to see in Battletech/Mechwarrior. Weirds me out a bit. Mostly the elbow joints and the extremely thin hips that mess with me, probably.

To be fair, it could either A.Get that fixed when we see the actual model in-game or B.PGI will make fun of this fact with a few unique camo options.

[Y E O N N E]

What if I told you that many of the original BattleTech 'Mechs are not from BattleTech? Where is your god, now, hmmm?

[Agent1190]

It's a reward for Alex and PGI in general for revitalizing the genre. We wouldn't have a resurgence in BT or MW without MWO. We're now getting new TRO artwork, re-seen unseen Mechs despite Harmony Gold holding the rights to the original images, some new table top stuff, a second video game (BattleTech), a third video game (MW5), and merch. I don't think any of this would have come around without MWO.

It was granted canon, and probably not after-the-fact like some of the PGI created Mech variants.

Would you still be angry if HBS created a unique Mech for their game? How about if a new TRO contained 10 new industrial/agro-turned-Battle Mechs similar to the Roughneck for a new campaign?

Yeonne Greene, on 07 December 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

What if I told you that many of the original BattleTech 'Mechs are not from BattleTech? Where is your god, now, hmmm?

How many times can I like this comment?

Edited by Agent1190, 07 December 2016 - 03:47 PM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

It's a disaster just as bad as when they released StarWars The Force Awakens and featured a new version (T-70) of the X Wing.

It ruinied everything, and it was obviously LucasFilm's attempt to kill the Star Wars franchise.