121 replies to this topic

[brroleg]

If shooting opened yellow internals on IS mech with 4 LPL and nothing happens - is not OP? Then tell me what is.

[Karl Streiger]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 06:17 AM, said:

Then tell me what is.

the God of HSR got your request
Yor request was weighted and found wanting

[Snazzy Dragon]

HSR screwing you over, or you aren't keeping the burn on the component for the full duration. I vote for the latter, personally..

[Black Phoebe]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 06:17 AM, said:

Then tell me what is.

Karma...

[brroleg]

you all wrong. Its just because IS mechs has INSANE(like WTF level of INSANE) structure quirks

[Karl Streiger]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

you all wrong. Its just because IS mechs has INSANE(like WTF level of INSANE) structure quirks

but not 52 - get real

Edited by Karl Streiger, 02 January 2017 - 06:36 AM.

[Bombast]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

you all wrong. Its just because IS mechs has INSANE(like WTF level of INSANE) structure quirks

How much extra structure do you think Inner Sphere mechs get on average?

[Snazzy Dragon]

Bombast, on 02 January 2017 - 06:43 AM, said:

How much extra structure do you think Inner Sphere mechs get on average?

Enough for two cER medium lasers at best

[kesmai]

Lol

[Lykaon]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

you all wrong. Its just because IS mechs has INSANE(like WTF level of INSANE) structure quirks

Do some research and then do some math and then rethink your whole post.

[GrimRiver]

Blame quirks on clan mechs, because if we never had clans there would've been no reason for IS mech to have quirks.

Reason for that is:

Clan mechs can pack more weapons per mech.

Clan weapons do more overall damage.

Clan UAC's have a faster ROF due to double tap.

Clan weapons can engage at longer distance.

Clan tech being clan tech by being better than IS tech.

All IS has going for it is quirks while clan tech is innately better.

[Oberost]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 06:17 AM, said:

If shooting opened yellow internals on IS mech with 4 LPL and nothing happens - is not OP? Then tell me what is.

Please, call Gyrok ASAP: this guy needs his master advice...

[Willard Phule]

Sigh.

To PGI, "balance" means "balancing the population," not balancing the equipment.

Think about it. This last pass of "nerf the clans, buff the IS" is more about forcing the experienced PUGs and Groups to the IS than it is about trying to make the equipment "equal."

[Bud Crue]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 06:17 AM, said:

If shooting opened yellow internals on IS mech with 4 LPL and nothing happens - is not OP? Then tell me what is.

Which mech was this indestructible IS titan?

[brroleg]

Snazzy Dragon, on 02 January 2017 - 06:47 AM, said:

Enough for two cER medium lasers at best

Dragon has +24 CT structure. Thats more than 3 cER mediums.

Also together with actual armor Dragon effectively has 104 ct armor. Thats Clan assault mech level of armor (Warhawk has 108 ct armor and no structure quirks)

Think about this: 60t IS heavy mech has same level of armor as 85t Clan assault.

How this is not OP?

[Snazzy Dragon]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:

Dragon has +24 CT structure. Thats more than 3 cER mediums.

Also together with actual armor Dragon effectively has 104 ct armor. Thats Clan assault mech level of armor (Warhawk has 108 ct armor and no structure quirks)

Think about this: 60t IS heavy mech has same level of armor as 85t Clan assault.

How this is not OP?

LOL

IT'S OFFICIAL GUYS, THE DRAGON IS OP

[Lykaon]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:

Dragon has +24 CT structure. Thats more than 3 cER mediums.

Also together with actual armor Dragon effectively has 104 ct armor. Thats Clan assault mech level of armor (Warhawk has 108 ct armor and no structure quirks)

Think about this: 60t IS heavy mech has same level of armor as 85t Clan assault.

How this is not OP?

Because you only need to shoot off the right side torso?

[brroleg]

GrimRiver, on 02 January 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

Clan mechs can pack more weapons per mech

and cant use them because of insane heat

GrimRiver, on 02 January 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

Clan weapons do more overall damage.

But they also spread this damage a lot more. Lasers burn significantly longer, cannons shoot in burst(so if enemy is moving each bullet hits different part of mech)

GrimRiver, on 02 January 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

Clan weapons can engage at longer distance.

Almost every IS mech has 10% range bonus, and quite a few has 15%. In result Clan range advantage is very minimum

[Grixa19]

GrimRiver, on 02 January 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

Blame quirks on clan mechs, because if we never had clans there would've been no reason for IS mech to have quirks.

Reason for that is:

Clan mechs can pack more weapons per mech. But who cares if u can only fire half of them in one time, otherwise ull kill urself cause overheating...

Clan weapons do more overall damage. - Maybe +1-2 points more, hey but who cares if IS lasers have much less laser duration...

Clan UAC's have a faster ROF due to double tap. But it jams in 75% cases and it jams when it needs to fire. But who cares? IS mechs have Anti-jam quirks, so it never jams on is. BTW clan AC20 sucks.

Clan weapons can engage at longer distance. Maybe +100-200 meters longer. But who cares? IS mechs have Ranges laser quirks. All u need is 4 LPL and 2 meds, fitted fastest XL engine and alpha those pesky clan mechs 2 times in a row. Dont worry u wont get overheat...

Clan tech being clan tech by being better than IS tech. In a LORE. But not in this game.

All IS has going for it is quirks while clan tech is innately better. In a lore it is. But in this game the better the quirks the better the mech. Which mechs have quirks?

FIXED

[GrimRiver]

brroleg, on 02 January 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:

Dragon has +24 CT structure. Thats more than 3 cER mediums.

Also together with actual armor Dragon effectively has 104 ct armor. Thats Clan assault mech level of armor (Warhawk has 108 ct armor and no structure quirks)

Think about this: 60t IS heavy mech has same level of armor as 85t Clan assault.

How this is not OP?

In theory that sounds op as f*ck, but in practice it falls apart very very fast.

The Dragon only has speed on it's side and chances are it's bringing an XL just to mount a meaningful amount of firepower.