Jump to content

How "powerfull" Is Your Rig?


37 replies to this topic

#1 el piromaniaco

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Bad Company
  • Bad Company
  • 957 posts
  • LocationVienna

Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:02 AM

Hello Mechwarriors!

I was just wondering on what kind of rig you are playing MWO and how powerfull those are.

The first benchmark for comparison that came to my mind is Firemark from Futuremarks 3Dmark.
Can your rig run that benchmark and waht score does it get?

Here is my score and setup:

3DMark Score = 10350
Graphics Score = 12093
Physics Score = 11836
Combined Score = 4562
Graphics Test 1 = 58.53 fps
Graphics Test 2 = 47.73 fps
Physics Test = 37.58 fps
Combined Tes = 21.22 fps

Giga-Byte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
Memory 4.096 MB
Core-Clock 1.404 MHz
Memoryclock 1.753 MHz

Intel Core i7-4790K
stock core clock 4.000 MHz
turbo core clock 4.389 MHz
physical/logical processors 1 / 8
number of cores 4

OS 64-bit Windows 10
Mainboard ASUS MAXIMUS VI FORMULA
RAM 32.768 MB Kingston DDR3 @ 1.330 MHz
HDD 1.000 GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB

Processor, Mainboard and Graphiccard are watercooled

Greetings

el piro

Edited by el piromaniaco, 04 January 2017 - 10:30 AM.


#2 Ikokujin

    Member

  • PipPip
  • The Universe
  • The Universe
  • 37 posts
  • Twitch: Link
  • LocationSwitzerland

Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:56 AM

Where do i get that Benchmark? :D

#3 el piromaniaco

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Bad Company
  • Bad Company
  • 957 posts
  • LocationVienna

Posted 04 January 2017 - 10:15 AM

View PostDodg3r, on 04 January 2017 - 09:56 AM, said:

Where do i get that Benchmark? :D


You can download it from the Futuremark homepage or via STEAM.
It's called 3DMark and has several diff benchmarks you can run. The free version is all you need.

Edited by el piromaniaco, 04 January 2017 - 10:17 AM.


#4 xWiredx

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Elite Founder
  • Elite Founder
  • 1,805 posts

Posted 04 January 2017 - 10:20 AM

From my signature, but in slightly easier to read:

Intel Core i7 5820K
Gigabyte X99 G1 Gaming WIFI
16GB G.Skill DDR4-3200
MSI Gaming 4G GTX 980
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB

Firestrike Extreme: 6886
Firestrike: 13165
Sky Diver: 36873
Cloud Gate: 37081
Ice Storm Extreme: 192548
3DMark11: 17829

#5 Ikokujin

    Member

  • PipPip
  • The Universe
  • The Universe
  • 37 posts
  • Twitch: Link
  • LocationSwitzerland

Posted 04 January 2017 - 10:31 AM

Here the complete results:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17169182

Edited by Dodg3r, 04 January 2017 - 10:34 AM.


#6 el piromaniaco

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Bad Company
  • Bad Company
  • 957 posts
  • LocationVienna

Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:12 AM

View PostDodg3r, on 04 January 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

Here the complete results:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17169182


Damn, now I have that "upgrade itch".

But MWO is running fine at full hd, everything at max, no need to upgrade, really,
But MWO is running fine at full hd, everything at max, no need to upgrade, really,
But MWO is running fine at full hd, everything at max, no need to upgrade, really,
But MWO is running fine at full hd, everything at max, no need to upgrade, really,
But MWO is running fine at full hd, everything at max, no need to upgrade, really,
But MWO is running fine at full hd, everything at max, no need to upgrade, really,
.......................................................

#7 Peter2k

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Elite Founder
  • Elite Founder
  • 2,032 posts
  • LocationGermany

Posted 08 January 2017 - 02:06 AM

i5 7600K @ 5.2 Ghz
ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Formula
some cheap DDR4 RAM until the one I want actually comes out; 8GB
GTX 1060
SSD's only (Samsung 840, 860 EVO)


3DMark11

FIRE STRIKE 1.1

Edited by Peter2k, 08 January 2017 - 02:19 AM.


#8 el piromaniaco

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Bad Company
  • Bad Company
  • 957 posts
  • LocationVienna

Posted 09 January 2017 - 12:37 AM

View PostPeter2k, on 08 January 2017 - 02:06 AM, said:

i5 7600K @ 5.2 Ghz ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Formula some cheap DDR4 RAM until the one I want actually comes out; 8GB GTX 1060 SSD's only (Samsung 840, 860 EVO) 3DMark11 FIRE STRIKE 1.1


From the specs i would have thought your system faster.
But the benchmark says your rig is just a few frames behind.
Could this be due to your lower CPU stock core clock?

#9 Peter2k

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Elite Founder
  • Elite Founder
  • 2,032 posts
  • LocationGermany

Posted 09 January 2017 - 01:45 AM

View Postel piromaniaco, on 09 January 2017 - 12:37 AM, said:


From the specs i would have thought your system faster.
But the benchmark says your rig is just a few frames behind.
Could this be due to your lower CPU stock core clock?


mmm
In benchmarks that can handle multithreading and many cores/threads I would expect an i7 to win over an i5
You're physic score is only a few hundred points ahead

Look at it this way
I closed to you're system with 8 threads (which firestrike can utilise) by brute force while only having 4
Also:

Quote

A weighted harmonic has been brought into the equation and also some constants (see table Weights and Constants further below). The Weights in fact determine the proportion of the GPU and CPU in the calculation of the individual and end result.

For a balanced system the weights show the ratio between the effect off the Graphics and Physics performance on the overall score. A balanced system is one where the Graphics and Physics are roughly of the same magnitude. For systems with a substantially higher Graphics or Physics sub-score, the harmonic mean rewards boosting the side where the lower score is.

This is in line with real life, for example: If you use an entry-level GPU and if you double the CPU speed: it has little or no improvement on your system performance when playing games. Because the systems gaming performance is limited by the GPU.


On a side note
I had HPET on when I did those benchmarks
I ran them again with off and scored better
Gonna repost them without HPET later

My graphics card should be roughly in the ball park of a gtx970 and it is kinda spot on
It's a bit light on vram, but it was supposed to hold me over until either a 1080ti, or AMD'S Vega


edit:

3dMark 11, HPET on


3dMark 11, HPET off

ok
Firestrike saw only the most minimal improvement from HPET off

I just noticed that MWO rean somewhat less smooth
fps was high, but it felt stuttery
witching HPET off actually removed that issue, hmmm


had it on because of this

https://mwomercs.com...bios-and-win10/

with my skylake it was fine, but with kaby lake it stuttered Posted Image

Edited by Peter2k, 09 January 2017 - 05:15 AM.


#10 LT. HARDCASE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Spear
  • The Spear
  • 2,706 posts
  • LocationDark Space

Posted 14 January 2017 - 09:37 PM

i7-6820HK
GTX 1070

3DMark Score = 14066
Graphics Score = 1854
Physics Score = 11601
Combined Score = 5379
Graphics Test 1 = 89.99 fps
Graphics Test 2 = 76.01 fps
Physics Test = 36.83 fps
Combined Test = 25.02 fps

Edited by LT. HARDCASE, 14 January 2017 - 09:38 PM.


#11 el piromaniaco

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Bad Company
  • Bad Company
  • 957 posts
  • LocationVienna

Posted 14 January 2017 - 10:47 PM

View PostLT. HARDCASE, on 14 January 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:


Graphics Score = 1854



Maybe you missed a bit there?

#12 Smokeyjedi

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Liquid Metal
  • Liquid Metal
  • 1,040 posts
  • LocationCanada

Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:08 AM

View PostPeter2k, on 08 January 2017 - 02:06 AM, said:

i5 7600K @ 5.2 Ghz
ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Formula
some cheap DDR4 RAM until the one I want actually comes out; 8GB
GTX 1060
SSD's only (Samsung 840, 860 EVO)


3DMark11

FIRE STRIKE 1.1

Yikes.......
Posted Image
extreme
Posted Image

ultra
Posted Image
firestrike
Posted Image
106.88 X 39 for 4172mhz Strix GTX970 @ 1528/8001 Gksill sniper 2133 CL12 @ 9-10-9-27 1T 1.7V
Ive seen 6700K do 120Gflops with moderate to heavy OC........
Posted Image

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 18 January 2017 - 07:11 AM.


#13 Smokeyjedi

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Liquid Metal
  • Liquid Metal
  • 1,040 posts
  • LocationCanada

Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:21 AM

just ran a firestrike for the detailed screenshot, and broke my old record, by 100pts, thanks to tightening timings on ram, this puppy is screaming. paid 12.99$ canadian for the GB Z77 Ud5H + I5 3550 barebones at a thrift shop.

Posted Image
So after taking timing on ram from 10-10-10-30 2T stick volts
to 9-10-9-27 1T @ 1.7 V it gave me all that green Posted Image aw yiss......
Posted Image

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 18 January 2017 - 07:29 AM.


#14 Peter2k

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Elite Founder
  • Elite Founder
  • 2,032 posts
  • LocationGermany

Posted 21 January 2017 - 02:55 AM

View PostSmokeyjedi, on 18 January 2017 - 07:08 AM, said:

Yikes.......
Posted Image


Posted Image

Posted Image

#15 Smokeyjedi

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Liquid Metal
  • Liquid Metal
  • 1,040 posts
  • LocationCanada

Posted 21 January 2017 - 06:25 AM

View PostPeter2k, on 21 January 2017 - 02:55 AM, said:


Posted Image

Posted Image

Well than, that cpu really takes off in a class of its own @ 5.2ghz. sonovabitch thats fast.

I like the fact that my older hardware IS truly keeping up with the newest of architectures, and still slaps newest titles around no problem.

#16 Kshat

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Overlord
  • Overlord
  • 1,229 posts

Posted 21 January 2017 - 08:52 AM

View PostSmokeyjedi, on 21 January 2017 - 06:25 AM, said:

Well than, that cpu really takes off in a class of its own @ 5.2ghz. sonovabitch thats fast.

I like the fact that my older hardware IS truly keeping up with the newest of architectures, and still slaps newest titles around no problem.


That benchmark is limited to one thread, which devalues it by ludicrous amounts. There is no real world scenario of significance which is limited to one thread.
You can almost any CPU overclock by a much wider margin when you limit the stresstest to a single thread.
On top, the values given in these charts representing other CPUs are more of a worst case-scenario. Usually even adding "decent" RAM- not even OC'd one - will boost these values significantly.

The impact of a CPU on gaming is a more complicated matter than it might seem. First of all, your CPU doesn't have to be the fastest, it just needs to be fast enough to not limit your GPU in the games you play.
Second, there is some odd behaviour when it comes to realworld-performance. On most games/modern engines, you can reach high average FPS with a heavily OC'd Quadcore. Hell, even a G4560 or heavily OC'd i3 (with HT) will do perfectly fine.
But when you look at framelatency and framedrops, usually you get a much smoother experience when using more threads, so an i7 or i7(2011)[Ryzen] will deliver less framedrops. The reasoning behind this behaviour got something to do with load distribution and pipeline length and is closely tied to the reasoning why Skylake architecture delivers smoother framepacing than an overclocked Devils Canyon - maybe with the sole exception of certain broadwell-specimen.

Tl;Dr: benchmarks are only a fragment of the truth and not representative if they aren't specifically tailored to the real world scenario you're running.

#17 Smokeyjedi

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Liquid Metal
  • Liquid Metal
  • 1,040 posts
  • LocationCanada

Posted 21 January 2017 - 01:00 PM

View PostKshat, on 21 January 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:


That benchmark is limited to one thread, which devalues it by ludicrous amounts. There is no real world scenario of significance which is limited to one thread.
You can almost any CPU overclock by a much wider margin when you limit the stresstest to a single thread.
On top, the values given in these charts representing other CPUs are more of a worst case-scenario. Usually even adding "decent" RAM- not even OC'd one - will boost these values significantly.

The impact of a CPU on gaming is a more complicated matter than it might seem. First of all, your CPU doesn't have to be the fastest, it just needs to be fast enough to not limit your GPU in the games you play.
Second, there is some odd behaviour when it comes to realworld-performance. On most games/modern engines, you can reach high average FPS with a heavily OC'd Quadcore. Hell, even a G4560 or heavily OC'd i3 (with HT) will do perfectly fine.
But when you look at framelatency and framedrops, usually you get a much smoother experience when using more threads, so an i7 or i7(2011)[Ryzen] will deliver less framedrops. The reasoning behind this behaviour got something to do with load distribution and pipeline length and is closely tied to the reasoning why Skylake architecture delivers smoother framepacing than an overclocked Devils Canyon - maybe with the sole exception of certain broadwell-specimen.

Tl;Dr: benchmarks are only a fragment of the truth and not representative if they aren't specifically tailored to the real world scenario you're running.


1st point I should make is that I originated the 6,8 thread amd cnfg files that floated around for a while, with the help of several forums members, Goose, WiredX and myself as well as others i cannot recall we spend some good time trying to determine the best individual tast threads to designate to which threads, Wired was the first to strik gold with his 6core I7 5820? correct me if im wrong he got 12 threads working about 40-50% each, that was enough to eliminate the CPU cnfg -systaskthread_0 taking 80% of all information MWO was trying to communicate. we spread that areound and voila no more dips below 60fps, a few patches after MWO had implemented some form of this is the code, it worked better much better lately for more threads.

2nd off sometimes you don't get exact returns on multi thread instances, its not always scaling on a 1:1 ratio, some cpus will put out 1.xx in return for adding 1 core. others like AMD FLOPx vishera you get .8 per core or thread you add to the scenerio. it chokes for instructions and pre fetch traffic.

Im not sure how to respond to this, If you go back a year or two in the hardware forums here, you will find all about these things your are trying to enlighten me upon....we have years of data logging and frametime readouts here in MWO forums, I was on the hunt for 60+ FPS at any given time no matter what with MWO and my 8350 which i ended up running a max core speed of 5.2ghz which I could not cool, settled for 5017mhz and have posted all this information way back. My newest rig, which is I5 3550 @ 4172mhz walks all over my 8350 @ 5017mhz same ram same GPU but the intel memory controller flows about 30% more information.

20,000 mb/s roughly with 8350 2133ddr3 gskill sniper @ 2020mhz 10-10-10-30 2T...........max stable ramspeed with tight timings.

27,000mb/s roughly with I5 3550 same ram @ 9-10-9-27 1T.

A perfect example, firestrike combined score............

8350 @ 5.0 score 11500 physics

I5 3550 @4172 score 7900 physics.

GPU 1528/8001 both tests.
the combined scores reveal all,

I5 3550 (7900physics +13647gpu) score = 10710 THE KEY IS combined score: 5146

8350 @ 5.0 (11,500physics +13647gpu) score = 9505 combined score : 4797

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 21 January 2017 - 01:13 PM.


#18 ninjitsu

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • FP Veteran - Beta 2
  • FP Veteran - Beta 2
  • 402 posts

Posted 28 January 2017 - 10:10 PM

i5 4670k
GTX 970
Firestrike score 10665 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17671292?

#19 Tier5 Kerensky

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Bridesmaid
  • 2,049 posts

Posted 29 January 2017 - 02:52 AM

I have a 10 years old computer which gets 4400 score from Firestrike, greatly limited by CPU.

#20 ninjitsu

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • FP Veteran - Beta 2
  • FP Veteran - Beta 2
  • 402 posts

Posted 29 January 2017 - 07:20 AM

I made some adjustments and got 11126 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17678360?





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users