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[Scout Derek]

Mcgral18, on 08 February 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

Yeah, HoverJets are also 7.5 HP
Cockpit items are 4 HP
Gyro is still 10
Engines all remain 15

AC20 was increased to 25 (nice...but I'd say not enough)
AC10 now 15

cUAC10 still at 10, but so is the cAC10 (boo!)

AC 20 is a good one, that thing always seems to fall off on atlases I played after I was at yellow structure.

[Mcgral18]

Gas Guzzler, on 08 February 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

So the skill tree PTS is also including a balance pass. Ughhhhhh

But what about the quirks???

No significant changes, just HP differences
Same offensive capabilities (that I've seen at a glance)


Cent still had Quirks, and Whale the 8/8

[FupDup]

Scout Derek, on 08 February 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

Maybe make the cERPPC and cLPL be on the same level as the Gauss Rifle considering it is pretty vulnerable when the armor is stripped, since a GR is 12 tons with no heat and cLPL or cERPPC with heat but unlimited ammo.

That's my assumption.

I'm pretty sure the Clan Gauss is already a top-tier meta weapon. It already compares very nicely against the Clan ERPPC and LPL.

[Mcgral18]

RestosIII, on 08 February 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

Where are ya'll seeing this stuff?

The Weapons.XML


Where else?

[Scout Derek]

Mcgral18, on 08 February 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

LB20x at 16.5hp

What a strange number

Original?

FupDup, on 08 February 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure the Clan Gauss is already a top-tier meta weapon. It already compares very nicely against the Clan ERPPC and LPL.

Like I said, an assumption. Perhaps PGI is seeing more use of PPCs and LPLs for clans than the clan Gauss Rifle ever since that range nerf.

[RestosIII]

Mcgral18, on 08 February 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

The Weapons.XML


Where else?

Thought I'd just missed a post. Alrighty then. Still waiting for the damn thing to download and install for me. God I wish I could use Steam for this.

Aaaaand the post is up.

https://mwomercs.com...ic-test-session

[Mcgral18]

Huh...Goose Waffles can no longer instantly gimp a face
https://mwomercs.com...00#entry5605900


1 Crit now

And I just didn't read it yet, you can see it right here:

<Loc iconTag="StoreIcons\GaussRifle.dds" descTag="@GaussRifle_desc" nameTag="@GaussRifle"/>
<WeaponStats maxDepth="10.0" volleydelay="0" speed="2000" lifetime="10" duration="0.0" tons="15" maxRange="1320" longRange="660" minRange="0" ammoPerShot="1" ammoType="GaussAmmo" cooldown="5.0" heat="1.0" impulse="0.05" heatdamage="0" damage="15" numFiring="1" projectileclass="bullet" type="Ballistic" slots="7" Health="10" critDamMult="0.5" critChanceIncrease="0.17,-1.0,-1.0" InternalExplosionDmg="20" ExplodeChance="0.9" groupedlocally="1"/>

Which also means Gauss will get significantly fewer Crits, 17% down from 42%, half as likely, and never more than once


HEY, THEY TOOK MY IDEA! A sub-1 CritDamMult

So not only will it crit less often, it will only crit for 7.5 HP!
...wait a minute, they reduced all HP to 7.5, so a single Goose Waffle hit will STILL destroy many items (but not all weapons)

Edited by Mcgral18, 08 February 2017 - 03:09 PM.

[Cybrid 0x0t2md2w]

Scout Derek, on 08 February 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

Is it? Good to hear, that's exactly what I was doing just now

yes it works, no 3 hours of downloading anymore

[FupDup]

The LRM5 got nerfed again. It now has the same spread as the 10.

Apparently the SRM4 was OP as well.

[Mcgral18]

FupDup, on 08 February 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

The LRM5 got nerfed again. It now has the same spread as the 10.

Apparently the SRM4 was OP as well.

Previously 4 meters?
New 10% thingy, 34% Artemis for 44% spread reduction, or 56% spread. A touch over 2 Meters...I wouldn't know how effective that is

[RestosIII]

Ooof. It's going to cost 9,000,000 C-Bills to fully master a mech. That's gonna hurt.

[FupDup]

RestosIII, on 08 February 2017 - 03:14 PM, said:

Ooof. It's going to cost 9,000,000 C-Bills to fully master a mech. That's gonna hurt.

Once again, it's appropriate to repost this:

[Cybrid 0x0t2md2w]

"Machine Guns do not have a Skill Branch nor any Skill Nodes."

[FupDup]

Oh, and apparently the UAC/2 was OP as well. Crit boost removed, and more importantly it got a 33% increased jam duration (4 seconds, up from 3).

[RestosIII]

Ammo squirks. My Summoner is rejoicing.

[cazidin]

So, how bad is it?

[RestosIII]

cazidin, on 08 February 2017 - 03:21 PM, said:

So, how bad is it?

The trees seem a bit random in where things are actually going, with AMS overload being locked behind structure quirks and the like (blech), but it doesn't look too terrible at first glance though.

[MacClearly]

Really want to see what 'snap shot' they use of my profile because the last PTS was a very early one missing one third of the mechs I owned...

Edited by MacClearly, 08 February 2017 - 04:31 PM.

[Steve Pryde]

RestosIII, on 08 February 2017 - 03:14 PM, said:

Ooof. It's going to cost 9,000,000 C-Bills to fully master a mech. That's gonna hurt.

Most of my mechs are mastered but if I must pay 9 mio. c-bills for every mech. I don't have the bills for 100++ mechs that are mastered before skill tree. O.o

[Mcgral18]

..."Magazine Capacity"?
For my WubShee?


No thank you!



It does cost 9.1 Mil per robot (and not chassis, per individual ROBOT)



And the WubShee looks to be powerful...maybe?