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[soapyfrog]

Almond Brown, on 17 February 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

And here is where I get somewhat lost. Do you have Mechs, that got their XP and GXP expenditure refunded only to find a "refresh" back to its "status quo" using those refunds was insufficient?

Yes it is insufficient, because where before I had a mastered and maxed out mech that in the new system suddenly only has 38/91 possible nodes unlocked. Therefore to max it out again I must grind out 1.5x (let's say it took 30 matches to master originally, it will take another 45) more matches in it for the XP and scrounge the c-bills for the node unlocks.

If I have to go back to re-level my old mechs before I can use them at full value again, then I will never buy another new mech with MC ever again. What would be the point? Even if i could work up the will to keep playing, it will be 12,000 hours or whatever before I can dream of maxing out all my mechs again.

[soapyfrog]

BTW I would say broadly if they can't fit the skill tree on a single screen they have screwed up pretty bad. This is just a pain in the *** to use, navigate and interpret. It does not energize me to want to play this game at all.

[Sarsaparilla Kid]

Tiantara, on 17 February 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

- One positive thing here - new player can make 6 different mech and master them all without need to buy 3 mech of each type and master them all before take to FP... Now he can have 4-6 mastered mech. If choose them wisely.

Actually, the opposite is generally true...for FP with weight limits in place, you are often trying to go for the same chassis for 2 or 3 of your mechs in the deck, so if you have 2 or more variants of one chassis plus 2 or more of another to equal the 265 ton IS limit or 240 ton Clan limit, you are actually going to be needing more XP to master just those 4 mechs under the new system than you did under the old system. The new system works great if you only intend to own 1 variant of each type of mech, but beyond that it gets more expensive for the 2nd, 3rd, etc. in that same chassis than it was under the old system. A common IS drop deck, for example is 3 Grasshoppers or Warhammers and then a Griffin...3 fast heavies and the heaviest medium. Kanajashi has a video on Youtube detailing how the XP breaks down per mech under the old versus new system.

Edited by Sarsaparilla Kid, 17 February 2017 - 01:31 PM.

[Dee Eight]

Padre Balistique, on 17 February 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

Your entire arguement is "disregard lore cause lol respawns"

nO....my entire argument is diregard lore because it has little place in a online realtime multi-player first person shooter.

[Jasta85]

Tiantara, on 17 February 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

- One positive thing here - new player can make 6 different mech and master them all without need to buy 3 mech of each type and master them all before take to FP... Now he can have 4-6 mastered mech. If choose them wisely.

Right now it costs a total of 128,750 xp to master 3 variants of the same mech (and a lot of people only master 1 or 2 variants and leave the others at veteran).

Under the new skill tree it costs 9.1 million credits and 136,500 xp to master a single mech. The grind has not gotten easier, it costs over 3 times as much xp to master a single mech now, and 9.1 million credits more.