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[ERIK EVERHARD]

Er ppc heat tested on HPG Manifold(-10Celsius) is 18 on single fire and 38 on dual. On hotter maps like tourmaline it goes to 46.... tested on a kodiak with 6 engine mounted double sinks.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Are you looking at your heat bar? Because 1% of your heat bar does not equal 1 heat most of the time.

[ERIK EVERHARD]

Is there another way to measure heat than looking at the heatbar? ....i tested the er large laser on the same map and the heat is normal .

[justcallme A S H]

Yes, calculate the heat cap and then work out the percentage off that. You'll then know how far it'll go up per shot as it's not a set %.

You'll find it's right. I've noticed zero change to cERPPC heat before/after the patch.

[ERIK EVERHARD]

it takes 2 minutes to test this ingame please dont reply if u haven't tested it , er large laser has 10 heat er ppc 14 heat ...if u test it ppc has more , i don't know if its patch related , i just dicovered this.

[B0oN]

You DO know that heatbar is a percentage of whatever and not really the most exact tool to measure heat ?

If you REALLY want to find out, dig into the gamefiles, those have all the values, in plain numericals without interference from mechskills, ambient map-temp and quirks .

Edited by The Shortbus, 27 March 2017 - 06:37 AM.

[ERIK EVERHARD]

i have no idea how to view the pak files ,if u know can u verify the numbers?

[Koniving]

Rouken Vordermark, on 26 March 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

Are you looking at your heat bar? Because 1% of your heat bar does not equal 1 heat most of the time.

In fact it never does.

ERIK EVERHARD, on 26 March 2017 - 04:30 PM, said:

Er ppc heat tested on HPG Manifold(-10Celsius) is 18 on single fire and 38 on dual. On hotter maps like tourmaline it goes to 46.... tested on a kodiak with 6 engine mounted double sinks.

You need to give exactly how many heatsinks you have total if you want to find the exact heat you're producing.

[Koniving]

ERIK EVERHARD, on 27 March 2017 - 04:36 AM, said:

it takes 2 minutes to test this ingame please dont reply if u haven't tested it , er large laser has 10 heat er ppc 14 heat ...if u test it ppc has more , i don't know if its patch related , i just dicovered this.

Percentage is 0-100%
Actual Heat Caps aka "100%" can be ANY digit from 40 units to 137 units maximum.

Meaning that if I had a build that achieved 137 units of heat and fired an ER PPC would produce "11%" heat.
If you have a mech with 10 standard heatsinks, the ER PPC produces "37.5%" heat.
10 doubles with no skill tree: ER PPC produces "30%" heat.
10 doubles WITH FULL SKILL TREE (old, not upcoming)... ER PPC produces "25%" heat.

The list goes on. And in each of those instances it is only producing 15 units of heat.

Note: ER Large Laser lasts longer than 1 second, you're actually producing 10 heat - Cooling Rate for X time it takes to beam... The end result is something like 9 heat for 10 SHS or 8 something or even less for double heatsinks... in other words you're seeing "10%" heat for something like 8 heat at the end of your spike.

You.
Need.
To.
Do.
Some.
Math.

Or use this calculator.
https://keikun17.git...heat_simulator/
Enjoy!

ERIK EVERHARD, on 27 March 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

i have no idea how to view the pak files ,if u know can u verify the numbers?

Use Smurfy..
All of Smurfy's values come directly from the PAK files.
In other words if Smurfy says the heat is X... the heat is X. Period.
Unless Smurfy failed to update, which it has never failed to update since 2012 (except the one time in 2013 when he was a week late due to christmas).

Before he made the process automatic.

Edited by Koniving, 27 March 2017 - 12:05 PM.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Koniving, on 27 March 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

In fact it never does.

Never say never.

[Koniving]

Rouken Vordermark, on 27 March 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

Never say never.

As an David she user. I will tell you that will likely not even reach 1%.

Much like my raven.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Koniving, on 27 March 2017 - 06:34 PM, said:

I will tell you that will likely not even reach 1%.

Not really the point. In this case 1% = 1 heat. It only takes one counter point to prove "never" wrong, regardless of how silly the example.