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#1 -Legion-

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 05:25 PM

There is absolutely no balance between the is and clans. No matter how many wins do we get clans have 10 times more teams going with help of mercs. They are getting ghost drops and moving the bar all the way to our siege. This is ridiculous. Do something about it. Remove this ghost drop victory for duration of the event or its not gonna be any fun wasting time.

#2 David Sumner

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 09:54 PM

Yet again I remember why I LOVE CW events

I'll keep tracking the jokes
Scout L 4:0 score 78
Scout W 3:3 score 155 - they started with a DC that came back
Scout L 3:0 score 35
Scout L 4:1 score 74
Scout W 1:4 score 226
Scout L 4:0 score 47
Scout W 3:0 score 68 BUGGED data collection
Scout W 0:4 score 247 1 enemy was still "alive" on the end screen somehow



So 1 legit win in 5 matches

Invasion?
4 wins from 5, and yet we are completely hammered flat because ...
Yeah well.

Edited by David Sumner, 06 May 2017 - 09:36 PM.


#3 PFC Carsten

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 09:55 AM

It's not a competition, it is a hunt for cheap virtual freebies you could grab with 10$ or so at your leisure. But hey, it's "free".

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 10:46 AM

I love getting farmed by 10 and 12 man drops.

And big thanks PGI for giving adequate notice for this event so that merc groups could sign a contract with the faction they like.

Sarcasm aside, PGI you guys really screwed the pooch here. PGI set a new high bar for incompetence with this event.

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 09:01 PM

i bet if the event is over all IS players get nothing from the daylie event. the superior clan XL engine and the majority of clan pilots is unbeatable. loyalist life is a kick in the butt, you has to be a real masochist to continue playing invasion on IS side.

please kick me harder pgi, i need my daylie tantrum...

Edited by LTDominator, 06 May 2017 - 09:16 PM.


#6 David Sumner

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 09:19 PM

View PostPFC Carsten, on 06 May 2017 - 09:55 AM, said:

It's not a competition, it is a hunt for cheap virtual freebies you could grab with 10$ or so at your leisure. But hey, it's "free".


No Tukkayid itself is supposed to be a competition.
The freebies are just to lift participation.

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 10:47 PM

View PostDavid Sumner, on 06 May 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

No Tukkayid itself is supposed to be a competition.
The freebies are just to lift participation.


Agreed, there is finally somewhat coming close to a reason movin' the bar from yellow to blue or vice versa.
That was always one of the main points pgi did their best to ignore, a somewhat viable reason to to fight for your faction to begin with.

#8 Lily from animove

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 12:54 AM

do you have evidences for those ghost drops?

View PostCurrant, on 06 May 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

I love getting farmed by 10 and 12 man drops.

And big thanks PGI for giving adequate notice for this event so that merc groups could sign a contract with the faction they like.

Sarcasm aside, PGI you guys really screwed the pooch here. PGI set a new high bar for incompetence with this event.



and how do they manage to farm you.


what sucks sithat PGI gave everyone a reason to play invasion which means everyone even those who can'T handle Invasion WILL play it. and this WILL make the event beeing influenced by too much noobs. They should have made it in a way that those nebwies only have interesting tasks in scouting where their "damage" isn't that big.

Edited by Lily from animove, 07 May 2017 - 12:57 AM.


#9 Taronga

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 04:40 AM

I agree that they should have given at least a week's notice before the event began so that the Merc units could change to what they wanted to battle under. Or at least they should have broken the contracts when the event kicked off so that they could sign a new one. While 420m is kicking butt and taking names as clan, I sure would have preferred my quirked to hell mechs and the extra tonnage. People whine clan is broken, but its not. A properly led IS push can crush anything clan can wield.

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 11:27 AM

as long as claners are able to oneshot IS assaults clan is still superior. its super hard to fight clans even as a 12man group against pugs, you have to give 110% to beat the clans but then a 12man clan group showing up and you just get oneshoted and stomped. its not pgi's fault that most noobs who cant play the game joined clans while the most good players are IS loyalists playing mechwarrior games for decades. you think you be a good player if you can kill an IS player while pressing one button? i cant even laugh as hard as needed here...

#11 Y E O N N E

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 04:23 PM

They can't one-shot IS Assaults.

Stop bringing sh*tty LRMs and bracket-builds and start boating Large Lasers and PPCs if you want to actually win. It's really that simple.

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 08:31 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 07 May 2017 - 04:23 PM, said:

They can't one-shot IS Assaults.

Stop bringing sh*tty LRMs and bracket-builds and start boating Large Lasers and PPCs if you want to actually win. It's really that simple.

i got oneshoted so many times out of my battlemaster or mauler, btw jager, catapult or warhammer in 2 of 3 matches also lol. pinpoint on my sidetorso and the XL was blown away.. happened more often than i remember. i have played more than 1000 FP matches under Kurita, and about 400 under Davion so dont try to tell me about LRM or the meta or what clan can not do, yes they can with nearly 100dmg alpha. PPC is useless **** in FP btw.. Posted Image

proof: http://steamcommunit...s/?id=780920500

Edited by LTDominator, 07 May 2017 - 08:43 PM.


#13 Mr Salty Silva

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 10:12 PM

View PostLTDominator, on 07 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

i got oneshoted so many times out of my battlemaster or mauler, btw jager, catapult or warhammer in 2 of 3 matches also lol. pinpoint on my sidetorso and the XL was blown away.. happened more often than i remember. i have played more than 1000 FP matches under Kurita, and about 400 under Davion so dont try to tell me about LRM or the meta or what clan can not do, yes they can with nearly 100dmg alpha. PPC is useless **** in FP btw.. Posted Image

proof: http://steamcommunit...s/?id=780920500


That part, underlined and in bold... And you wonder why do you get one shoted.
Typical cry how "unbalanced Clan's OP!! PLZ OMFG NERF!!!!" post. Always the same thing everytime. Always makes me giggle.

#14 PFC Carsten

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 12:15 AM

View PostLTDominator, on 07 May 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

yes they can with nearly 100dmg alpha. PPC is useless **** in FP btw.. Posted Image


100 DMG pinpoint alpha? How is that possible? Last I checked, you can only fire 2 Gauss (2× 15 DMG) and probably 2 ER-PPCs (2×10+2×5 scattered, so not counting towards pinpoint alpha), which is 50 DMG to a single location and should not be able to one-shot a fresh heavy or assault.

Or were you one-shotted after being shot before?

#15 GI Journalist

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 03:56 AM

The data from this event is likely to demonstrate that Faction Play is still inherently flawed. Quirks allow the IS to be competitive with certain optimized builds, but when the general population participates and determines the outcome of a planet, the Clan tech advantage is decisive.

Mind you, I'm having fun, but House Liao is accustomed to being the underdog.

#16 Lily from animove

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 04:24 AM

View PostPFC Carsten, on 08 May 2017 - 12:15 AM, said:


100 DMG pinpoint alpha? How is that possible? Last I checked, you can only fire 2 Gauss (2× 15 DMG) and probably 2 ER-PPCs (2×10+2×5 scattered, so not counting towards pinpoint alpha), which is 50 DMG to a single location and should not be able to one-shot a fresh heavy or assault.

Or were you one-shotted after being shot before?


yes yes they alwas one shot after having you triplleshotted :P

#17 Ch_R0me

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 09:14 AM

View PostPFC Carsten, on 06 May 2017 - 09:55 AM, said:

It's not a competition, it is a hunt for cheap virtual freebies you could grab with 10$ or so at your leisure. But hey, it's "free".


This is exactly my problem with the all practically events.
That teeth grinding when you've tried so hard to get that freebie, but ultimately - you lost it. Possibly forever. I remember when I was unable to win practically nothing from the last event, due to RL constraints...Posted Image Posted Image

Never mind.

I would propose, to form up the company (IS 3 lances) vs binary (2 stars) - (3x4 lances BS 2x5 stars) - 12 vs. 10 people. I think that should do the trick for some extent.

#18 David Sumner

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 11:28 AM

Heh, I started 12 hours after the event started.
At that point it was 3:97
The BEST I've seen on the event page was 20:80
By the time I logged in and got to the faction screen it was 17:83

But with cumulative advantage you kinda expect it to end up one sided.
But I think it's probably been like that since about 60 minutes in.

#19 David Sumner

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 12:24 PM

Thanks PGI for a "fun" match
https://ibb.co/exnD6Q
https://ibb.co/dmoxY5

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 03:42 PM

View PostDavid Sumner, on 05 May 2017 - 09:54 PM, said:

Yet again I remember why I LOVE CW events

I'll keep tracking the jokes
Scout L 4:0 score 78
Scout W 3:3 score 155 - they started with a DC that came back
Scout L 3:0 score 35
Scout L 4:1 score 74
Scout W 1:4 score 226
Scout L 4:0 score 47
Scout W 3:0 score 68 BUGGED data collection
Scout W 0:4 score 247 1 enemy was still "alive" on the end screen somehow



So 1 legit win in 5 matches

Invasion?
4 wins from 5, and yet we are completely hammered flat because ...
Yeah well.


Sorry I don't know what you are using while doing Scout-Missions.
As an IS team of 4 or even 3 you should loose only one out of five matches.
The only way clanners can win if they gather intel and hide. If they come to the fight IS will win.

The trick is to use the right mechs and the right tactic.
I would recommend something with an AC20 and focus on Novas and Huntsmans.

This will result in this
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Edited by FREDtheROLF, 08 May 2017 - 03:49 PM.






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