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[Dotdot]

As per topic. What the hell is going on?

I know skill tree is a thing but this just does not make any sense. Couple of games I had it was like:
- pop up
- break line of sight
- LRM shower - no line of sight, hide behind structures, hills, whatever.


Well, this I could swallow but...
I just had the same thing with mech with ECM. Not only that, it was fast mover. This just does not add up. Am I the only one smelling something fishy here?

Edited by Dotdot, 06 June 2017 - 08:44 AM.

[Burke IV]

Probably being spotted by somebody else you didnt see

[Admiral-Dan]

Dotdot, on 06 June 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:

Well, this I could swallow but...
I just had the same thing with mech with ECM.

ECM is nerfed quite hard since Skill Tree.

Dotdot, on 06 June 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:

Am I the only one smelling something fishy here?

Yes

[ScrapIron Prime]

Yep. Spotter or UAV.

[Andi Nagasia]

ECM was Nerfed Skill Tree Patch,
now you can be detected at 0.35(35% of 800(Radar Range) or 560m,
with 1 ECM node that goes down to 380m, and with both it goes down to preNerf 200m,

also with the Skill Tree, many scouts are taking 2 UAVs, to cash in on those scouting bonuses,
always check your back for a scout and the Sky for UAVs, both can get you killed quickly with LRM and no Cover,

[Nik Reaper]

Several questions,

How much radar deprivation do you run on your mechs?
How much ecm quirks do you or the other ecm mechs in your game run?
Were you aware if you were narc-ed at any point?
Were there any UAVs in range?

Not saying it's the case, but if you have 0 radar deprivation, ecm with no quirks ( so you reduce max sensor detection by only 25% , so they target you at ~620+ if they have beagle , TC or sensor range nodes ) and they are a pro lrm boat with 10% velocity and ~5s target retention you will get rained upon if no high cover nearby.

"now you can be detected at 0.35(35% of 800(Radar Range) or 560m," you sure about that? I'm pretty sure it's 25 x 3= 75%.

Edited by Nik Reaper, 06 June 2017 - 09:21 AM.

[Jiang Wei]

Nothing is wrong with LRM's. Its a pilot skill issue, as it always was.

[Innocent]

The game mode also matters. It could have been an incursion game and the enemy had radar up.

[r4plez]

you radar derp >60% ?

[Dotdot]

Jiang Wei, on 06 June 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

Nothing is wrong with LRM's. Its a pilot skill issue, as it always was.

Yeah and it just got much worse in last week?

Burke IV, on 06 June 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

Probably being spotted by somebody else you didnt see

There is always a chance, but not all the time. In some cases I was at extreme distance of LRMs(yeah, I know light could be behind, but not in the middle of formation). Still did not make difference, no drone, no mech/tag/narc - just plain snow around.

Nik Reaper, on 06 June 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

Several questions,

How much radar deprivation do you run on your mechs?

Depends. Range from whole tree, to few nodes

Nik Reaper, on 06 June 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

How much ecm quirks do you or the other ecm mechs in your game run?

Dont recall now, not many though, since its fresh mech.

Nik Reaper, on 06 June 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

Were you aware if you were narc-ed at any point?

Wasnt, first thing I looked at when I felt the pounding out of nowhere.

Nik Reaper, on 06 June 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

Were there any UAVs in range?

No. At least I did not see any light going through and poping one. Im usually looking for those pesky little things do the deed.

r4plez, on 06 June 2017 - 10:44 AM, said:

you radar derp >60% ?

Depends on mech. But on some, yeah, still feels like it does nothing.

[Savage Wolf]

Innocent, on 06 June 2017 - 09:37 AM, said:

The game mode also matters. It could have been an incursion game and the enemy had radar up.

The incursion radar does allow you to get a solid lock. It's only there for a half second or so.