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#1 arcana75

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:51 PM

Would you support it? Say moving to UE4. Personally I don't think PGI currently has the extra resources to put into porting, so the kickstarter funds would go into hiring a separate team dedicated to building the new engine from scratch while the current team continues with their current tasks.

#2 Bombast

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:08 PM

No.

#3 FupDup

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:09 PM

It's called MW5.

#4 Blue Shadow

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:10 PM

nope, too late for that now. I don't think it would be a very popular project for people to spend their money on.

#5 The Lighthouse

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:15 PM

View Postarcana75, on 14 September 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Would you support it? Say moving to UE4. Personally I don't think PGI currently has the extra resources to put into porting, so the kickstarter funds would go into hiring a separate team dedicated to building the new engine from scratch while the current team continues with their current tasks.


Can't write exact name since I can be banned by merely tpying it, but there was a huge, gigantic Kickstarter by PGI for an MMO.
It was funded, but PGI never delivered it. I believed some people did get refund but not many others.

If PGI were to use Kickstarter again, this incident WILL come out and people won't support PGI.

#6 TLBFestus

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:50 PM

View Postarcana75, on 14 September 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Would you support it? Say moving to UE4. Personally I don't think PGI currently has the extra resources to put into porting, so the kickstarter funds would go into hiring a separate team dedicated to building the new engine from scratch while the current team continues with their current tasks.



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No.....OMG...just No!

#7 Scout Derek

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:16 PM

no.

#8 BurninFinger

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:24 PM

I'd throw 3.50 at it.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:27 PM

No I wouldn't support it, not my fault they use a crappy, outdated engine and I don't see any valid excuse for why they'd need more money than they have in order to do that

PGI needs to make an exhaustive laundry list of changes before I consider paying for anything, and even then their asking prices are way too high for mech packs and such.

#10 justcallme A S H

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:25 PM

View PostBombast, on 14 September 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

No.


150%.

There is absolutely no chance, after PGIs track history with MWO, would I be funding any further than I have already.

There is is zero accountability for the total non-deliverance of promises made.

#11 Khobai

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:26 PM

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If Pgi Started A Kickstarter To Fund An Engine Change...


...I still wouldnt pay for it

to get me to spend even a bent penny on anything PGI would first have to show me they can fix everything thats wrong with MWO.

that means balancing the game satisfactorily (no were still not there yet), adding new maps/gamemodes that arnt just variations of skirmish, differentiating mechs enough so they dont just feel inferior to or exactly the same as other mechs, and adding proper role warfare and sensor/electronic warfare to the game.

but since thats never going to happen I guess I dont have to worry about it.

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There is is zero accountability for the total non-deliverance of promises made.


Theres definitely accountability. Nobody wants to fund their games anymore. lol.

Thats what happens when you tell your playerbase theyre on an island. They dont forget that !@#$ ever.

Edited by Khobai, 14 September 2017 - 10:36 PM.


#12 Oberost

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:35 PM

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What about... NO?

#13 justcallme A S H

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:37 PM

View PostKhobai, on 14 September 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

Theres definitely accountability. Nobody wants to fund their games anymore. lol.


Except the whales still buying mechpacks.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:40 PM

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Except the whales still buying mechpacks.


i seriously doubt they sold as many mechpacks this year compared to previous years

even the whales are reaching oversaturation levels for mechs owned, owning more has become pointless

the mechs simply arnt different enough that theres a reason to keep buying new ones

and PGI cant really powercreep new mechs just to sell mechpacks anymore, because thats caught up with them as far as balancing the game goes.

I foresee hard times coming for PGI. Especially if MW5 doesnt do well.

Edited by Khobai, 14 September 2017 - 10:44 PM.


#15 FireStoat

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:55 PM

PGI has already learned from the 2017 supporter pack that a very LARGE percentage of the player base will throw down a modest amount of cash if the returns seemingly make it a good bargain. On their side, they create some trivial virtual content and increased event awards which require little in the way of working man hours and they end up with a very popular seller.

If they wished to do something similar with a 20 or even 40 USD price tag under the guise of "help support us in updating the game to a better engine for the ensured future of MWO" with more virtual goods being a part of it, and let's assume the goods had a substantial value... It could easily happen. Very easily.

Unfortunately, as we can see from the 2017 Loyalty rewards program in how it's handled for people who dump money on this game in comparison with how PGI would LIKE you to dump money on the game... The marketing department either needs help bad or they're simply working under some form of undisclosed duress. I can't think of what else it might be.

Edited by FireStoat, 14 September 2017 - 10:57 PM.


#16 Sunstruck

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 02:07 AM

Dude PGI already has p l e n t y of money, they gave away over 100K at last years mech con, and many people including myself have spent more money on this game than any other game.

The idea that they need a kickstarter is absurd.

#17 MW Waldorf Statler

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 02:11 AM

What bring a New Engine with the Old PGI Dev Crew ...same Models and same Assets with the same Textures looks same with a New Engine ...What bring a New Engine ? with the Bottleneck of Serverbased Calculations????
UE4 can not alone created or programmed a Game
and the Graphics , in many Ways looks better as Ark Survival with UE4

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 15 September 2017 - 02:12 AM.


#18 sycocys

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 02:14 AM

Those guy can leverage their houses if they are worried about their cash cow dying off because they use an outdated and poorly designed game engine.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 02:25 AM

War of Rights used this old Outdated Engine in version 5 Posted Image

https://youtu.be/0qjT-tX88gY


and Bethesda (Fallout 4/Skyrim) in 2017 for the Game Prey

https://www.warofrig...om/default.aspx

or Robinson:the Journey (with Oculus Rift)




all the Problems from MWO not the Engine

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 15 September 2017 - 02:27 AM.


#20 Vellron2005

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 02:38 AM

If PGI pledged to use the money to port to UE4 AND make all the maps in MWO randomly (procedurally) generated, I would support such a kickstarter.

Also, as insurance of delivering on promises, If such a thing is not ready and in-game to a pre-set date, those that pledge should get a Hero Mech of their choice for free, plus an amount of MC equal to money invested + 50%.

Sounds fair?

Also, OP, don't ask bittervets if they wanna invest more money into MWO.. they are bittervets, and will never do that.. ;-)

Edited by Vellron2005, 15 September 2017 - 02:39 AM.






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